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Response to War on the Rocks article, "America Should Build its own Warships While Buying Tankers" (Patreon)

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In this episode, Sal Mercogliano — a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner — discusses the article, "America Should Build Its Own Warships While Buying Tankers," in War on the Rocks.

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Steven Palmer

Both the USA and USSR outsourced commercial ship construction during the Cold War. The majority of the USSR's commercial fleet was built in Finland. While Spruance class destroyers, Oliver Hazard Perry frigates and Ticonderoga class cruisers were quickly joining the Navy, US flag merchant vessels were mostly built overseas. American President Lines C-10's (5 ships), Lykes L-9's (4 ships), Sea-Lands D-9's (12 ships) and US Lines Econo class (12 ships) were all built in foreign shipyards.

Michael T

Sal, I agree with what you are saying. However, you have to understand that you are not the intended reader of the paper. These economists are advisors to the politicians. The politicians care about reelections and 2-year results, even if that means killing the golden goose. The system will award the economists who say what politicians want to hear.

Jim Carlson

I listened to this video and promptly opened a window and shouted at the top of my lungs, “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore”. As a young man I was an American Welding Inspector Certified Welding Inspector (AWS-CWI) from 1984 to 1988 working at Harris Structural Steel in South Plainfield NJ. Downsized now and with its suppliers gone ie Bethlehem Steel, but back in its heyday there were scores of American competent welders welding and building steel bridges for varied state DOT’s. To many US manufacturing industries are gone, most offshored unable to compete paying a living wage here in America. Today one party wants to flood the nation with foreign workers to replace the middle class or working class with underpaid or foreign gig workers without benefits. The trucking industry is their next target. The race to the bottom to make corporate profits is unparalleled today, using AI now to replace 10,000’s of white collar middle class workers. Listening to these two Professor types education history almost made me puke 🤮 Our government workers and military, all suckling on the US taxpayers taxes, need to take a ride throughout America to see with their own eyes how nimbyism, green agenda and corruption has left America nearly bereft of a functioning manufacturing industry sector. Kalifornia is now the #1 homeless capital of the United States. Let that sink in. California our richest state has the most homeless of any state and for the first time in its history has more people leaving the state then moving to California to live. Home prices are through the roof. I know I sound like a Debbie Downer but where’s the silver lining? Read today’s NY Times front page article on Shipping, smearing Trump’s admin for trying to save it. The UN is corrupted by China’s Belt and Road policy as the only nation able to truly manufacture green commercial super container ships. If the UN mandates these green ships built only by China and maybe S Korea or Japan, America would be unable to compete making these green super container ships. Commercial shipping does near zero polluting by CO2 but to dominate the commercial shipping manufacturing industry worldwide, China behind the scenes is pushing the UN to mandate only green super tankers worldwide be built.

Douglas Rampersad

US Shipbuilding continues to be sold out. From the BusinessKorea comes the following: ************************ South Korea to Build First U.S.-flagged Oil Tankers Editor Jung Suk-yee 2025.11.06 18:43 Commercial vessels built at domestic shipyards will be delivered with U.S. nationality for the first time in history. Expectations are rising that calls from global shipping companies seeking to secure U.S.-flagged vessels to Korean shipbuilders will increase. This is because vessels built in Korea will be permitted to transport crude oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG) along U.S. coastlines. According to industry sources on Nov. 6, K Shipbuilding will commence construction work on two oil tankers to be delivered with U.S. nationality from Jinhae Shipyard early next year. The vessels are two 50,000 DWT (deadweight tonnage) medium range tankers scheduled for delivery in early 2027. This marks the first time that vessels built domestically will directly enter service flying the U.S. flag, the Stars and Stripes. It is also the first time in approximately 12 years since 2013 that Korean-built vessels will be registered as U.S.-flagged ships. ************************* For some context, I would point out that NASSCo built a series of 50,000dwt product tankers (Korean designed, lots of imported equipment, but built in San Diego) on a cadence of 12-14 months keel laying to delivery. Contract issued 31 May 2013, first ship laid down 6 March 2015 and delivered on 4 Dec 2015. The eighth and final ship in the series delivered on 7 June 2017.

Douglas Rampersad
>>192848270

Not quite. For instance, Ingalls Shipbuilding built multiple commercial vessels in the '70s while also building the original LHA and the Spruance destroyers, as well as 4 SSNs. In the '80s, the commercial ocean-going freighter work was gone with the disappearance of the subsidy regime, but Jones Act work continued with the yard building drilling rigs in addition to CGs, LHDs, and DDGs. I also believe other yards mixed commercial and military work, it's just that I'd recently looked up the Ingalls construction record.