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First watch: Answer & Oak

Watched on: Netflix

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SadakoTV

FINALLY! Been camping here lol.

Saphthings

Rewatching the white bear is so creepy. It makes more sense, some of the scenes, her tied up, and him saying he's gonna use the screw gun on her while others watched. He's saying that's what her bf did to the girl in other ways, and what she did...

Walker 4IB

I love that you guys take the time to really talk through things post watch, Oak hit the nail on the head, it is hard to watch, and its hard to watch by design. Its very premise is to hold up a black mirror to show technology or humanity in its worst light, in the worst circumstances and though extreme, its just close enough to reality to be even more uncomfortable.

Rebecca B1

you are not finishing season 1 first ? a bit confuse why are already starting season 2, did i miss something

Simon

They did finish S1, it was three episodes, just like this season.

Mari Vaz

About White Bear - I think it has to do with the fact that when ppl hear about a horrible crime a lot will say something like "the perpetrator should suffer the same as the victim but 100 times worse" But if that would actually happen I imagine it would make many ppl uncomfortable. I was angry the other day reading about Chris Watts getting married in prison. Pisses me off. But I can't tell what justice would look like since I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but I would like to see some criminals suffering for what they did. So yeah...a lot to think about

Mari Vaz

Be Right Back - I like that they use grief as a theme to tell the story. But with AI today a lot of people pay AI companionship, like "someone" to talk to, or people that have AI girlfriends/boyfriends. And I don't see this getting better

Mari Vaz

Season 1 is 3 episodes. They watched last week

Pioka

They released the whole season 1 last week

SadakoTV

I tell you, 2X1 will soon be a documentation. The software is there, now it's just the hardware that needs to get ready for mass market. People are already training AI on their loved ones or fictional spouses.

Fear of Reactions

Can you guys react to "How To Get Away With Murder" tv series pls?

Chris B

I'm glad you acknowledge when these episodes came out. That's essential. With some of them it's crazy what abstract things they showed and where we are now. Some people have already done this - recreated a deceased relative with AI based on all info they could feed the AI about the person.

rin

I literally know ppl that text ai of their favorite characters or romance them it’s crazy how far we’ve come😭

Linnea Janson

My take on white bear is that the reason it feels wrong, and in my opinion is wrong is that the person who committed the crime isn't the one being punished. They wipe her memory every day and she becomes a blank paper, pretty much no one, and that person that wakes up every day did not commit the crime. They wiped away that criminal the first time her memories were taken from her. Because of this, it isn't punishment anymore and just like Quinn said, it only serves as a symbol of revenge for the people. The woman being punished is in her mind innocent because she isn't aware of what she has done. And when you aren't aware of the circumstances of the punishment it no longer serves as punishment. Even when they, at the end, show her what she did, to her it's a different person because she can't relate to her past self.

Shannon

Oak’s expressions just get better and better 😂

Dev M

the AI discussion is interesting because it's very easy to have AI and say that you're only going to be using it a certain way. but once it's normalized, or there's someone who grew up with it who uses it, it's a slippery slope to get to a point where you're using it to get advice, company, a conversation, etc. if you're caught in a vulnerable moment and it's accessible and convenient, or if other people have been using it that way. so that episode in today's climate particularly is very interesting. white bear - it's funny that oak brought up the hunger games because this to me is kind of what coin represented in that 3rd movie right. interesting ethical implications for sure

Mari Vaz

We know is bad when he stays completely silent while watching

Mari Vaz

What movie Oak mentioned "similar to White Bear" ?

Mari Vaz

I think it was Prisoners have they watched that?

MadBone127

Glad to see you had a nuanced discussion about White Bear, instead of just saying, "Well, she killed a child so nothing more to see here". I'm more interested in the questions this episode raises about society than about what justice looks like in one individual case. I struggle to sympathise with her given what she did but I'm disturbed by people wanting to gleefully watch her suffering. I can understand someone wanting her to suffer but a justice system can't be built on a foundation of inviting people to revel in someone's anguish and becoming desensitised to violence as that is how we get criminals like her in the first place.

Mari Vaz

Maybe Mystic River?

Sam

Great reactions guys. White Bear is one of those pieces of television that really stays with you a long time. I’d really like to also recommend another anthology series to you. Inside No. 9. Please consider for future x

ThetaSigmaTheOriginal

I just want to say that I'm glad the guys see this show for what it is. It's not supposed to be light entertainment. It's supposed to make you ask questions, even question your own positions, and there's some cautionary tales in there too. Like "how much is too much?" with both these episodes. What's the right way to grieve, what's healthy grief? What's a fitting form of justice and punishment for the worst types of crimes? As a species we've civilized over the eons, from the vicious forms of punishment tribes would have dished out thousands of years ago. We need to give the accused a fair ability to defend themselves, and the sentence should be passed without bias or emotion. It should be fitting to the severity of the crime, etc. But sometimes those basal instincts and bloodlust still come to the surface and suddenly we're not so different to those distant ancestors after all.

ThetaSigmaTheOriginal

Yes, who are we, if not our memories? And who are they punishing? I do like how they sort of sneaked in some of her character though, like when she didn't help the guy at the fuel station, who was being taken down by the gunman. She fled and saved herself, when she could have helped. I think they tried to make the same point when she threw the brick at the watchers, but that to me might be a more normal reaction, under the circumstances, when you're confused and being stalked and observed.

ThetaSigmaTheOriginal

Yes, I saw something very similar to the AI in Be Right Back, a year or so ago, they're called "Griefbots". It's uncanny how sometimes this show spits out stories that a decade or so later, start mirroring real life.

ThetaSigmaTheOriginal

I recently read that they can clone your voice on just a few seconds of speech now. It used to require a long speech, but now it can do it based on one sentence, and can even change the tone of the AI speech to convey different emotions. It also poses a problem for scams etc.

enyo96

The only thing I'll say about the White Bear episode...is that I'm tired of living in a world where criminals are treated better than their victims. Some prisons are too nice and the reality is most of them don't learn from their past. I do not think their punishment should be entertainment because that is sick, but I do believe we need to have harsher punishments in general, especially for those who harm children. I won't say anymore on that.

VariantsWatchMovies

White Bear. For the most part, I really enjoyed Black Mirror for the writing and the ideas it made me think about. But White Bear really bothered me. Episode one of Black Mirror was disturbing for different reasons, and I won’t forget the WTF feeling when I first watched it. This one stayed with me in a way I didn’t like. I almost skipped your reaction, when I saw the title come up, because I wasn’t sure I wanted to put myself through it again. Another reaction channel I watch actually stopped watching the series altogether because of how it was affecting one of the reactors. They didn’t go any further because it was adding to that reactor’s feelings of depression, and I completely understood where they were coming from. I think this episode definitely sparks a conversation about the difference between justice and revenge—or, in this case, even torture. But I’m also wondering whether it raises a deeper feeling of hopelessness about humanity. I’m still not sure how to explain it. I know the show is supposed to make us uncomfortable, and I don’t need everything I watch to have a happy ending. But this one almost felt like it crossed a line for me. I can appreciate the writing and still wish I hadn’t watched it.

Linnea Janson

Definitely, and I've never thought about the scene of her not helping the guy in the gas station as a reflection of her "real" character. I agree with you, I like that!

Hakuna

What’s interesting is that the last public execution by guillotine in France was only 90 years ago where people would want souvenirs like blood soaked cloth, so you don’t even have to go back all that long ago to where the general concept of making it a spectacle was playing out in reality. Makes the morality of white rabbit even more intriguing knowing how recently in history it was normalised.

Alyssa Dyson

White bear is such a messed up episode but its one of my favorites.

SadakoTV

Exactly. It has already ruined lifes.

FD

It’s really disturbing how common it is now, I saw a woman who got ‘engaged’ to her AI boyfriend

Layla

The satisfaction people where getting from filming her (the suspect) mirrors the satisfaction she (the suspect) got from filming the victim (the child).

Clint Farley

Taking cruel and unusual punishment with the internet's glee to see a villian punished taken to the extreme with WB.

Jordan_Sal 413

the next two episodes are pretty great, but i cant wait for season 3, all are amazing no matter what one. you guys should do 3 ep a week lol i just cant wait for the reactions

LesNV

I hope/ would love for you guys also to watch Love Death + Robots and AHS

Captain Eaglefort

On White Bear, as a small counterpoint for Oak about it being for entertainment. I’d argue she made someone feel the WORST thing they can feel. I’m not a parent, but my guess is most of them, the single biggest nightmare would be losing their child that way. She brought untold suffering onto people for no reason. If her pain can add a little bit of laughter back into the world…I’m not going to partake myself, but I can’t really poo-poo it either. I’ll admit that I have some pretty hard lines on stuff and there is a level of evil that I truly think deserves anything they can get back to them. Messing with kids is one of those.

random guy 317

Man I love this show so much I love the after episode discussions

Layla Joseph

They should watch A Time To Kill

Chloe

I absolutely cannot wait for S3 E4. S3 E1, E2 and S4 E4 are also really good. They’re all good. Also looking forward to the episodes I haven’t seen yet (don’t remember why I haven’t), there’s around 7 of them.

Eboe Thrasher

Further thoughts on White Bear from what I posted on the website... The problem is that justice isn't actually served, because in order for justice to be served, she would need to have punishment that happens to her and she remembers it. Doing it this way turns it into garish entertainment that merely is making money at this point. It would really be terrible if they were not be giving the money to the family of the victim. The only actual justice theoretically is that she is cracking over time and memories keep slipping through and it can get worse over time, are they going to do it to a point where she can't participate anymore and then kill her? Nah. If you really want to punish her, do this - do it to her, put her in prison, and then at random, take her and put her through it again. You take her with her knowing it is going to happen, but you clear her when she gets there and then start it over again, and then she has to live it over again. And when she gets back to prison, she can see on her wall a tally of how long she has been there and how many times she has done it. Holy shit, I think I just made it even worse. Imagine if the video is like it is, but at the end after the cheering, she goes back to prison, and sees on the wall, the tally that she has done it like 475 times. And then you cut to the thing you already see, but it is said that it is a limited engagement. After she did it for a full year, they made it a limited engagement and it runs once a month, so they increased the ticket prices due to the scarcity. They could actually do that as a follow up episode.

Crispy

thankyou for making this comment so I didn't have too XD

Crispy

the only argument I can think of in defense of the punishment is that the victim was confused and didn't know what was happening so they put the crime doer through that same confusion, which is confusing because its the same exact argument your making but on the other side of the coin, don't misinterpret my view though I want her punished as much as possible but it doesn't feel like punishment when the crime doer dosen't remember there crime, they basically made her innocent. or at least believe she was. damn I love this show it makes you think so much

Marie RammGirl

Oak's facial expression throughout Eps 1/side looks from Quinn & especially all your reactions to 'Ash' putting his hand on her chest, Quinn/Answer laughing away while Oak gives a squirmy expression was golden entertainment. Eps 1 did a grand job of portraying the extreme lengths people go to deal with their grief, it may have been comforting at first, but then reality kicks in & she realised it'll never truly be HIM, nothing can replace that bond she had, Quinn's facial expression after "First Fight" & looks of the others after hehe. Answer/Oak's facial expressions at the end were pretty much the same as mine as a 1st time viewer too, I'm surprised she didn't do a "Disassemble Ashy Five" I think Oak's right there's no 'Happy Ending' here, I too would've liked to have known what stage her friend went to, but guessing by the conversation, sounds like she only text messaged them. Eps 2 was a mindbending one, the writing was great in making you think/feel 1 way for the Character at the start & then the big reveal at the end, totally changes your opinion of her & despise what she did, I can see why people would have no sympathy for her, Quinn does bring up a valid point of is it Justice or Revenge forcing her to relive a more Twisted/Darker, version of a 'Groundhog Day' situation, the panic/lost feeling she feels everytime she plays this 'game' is probably trying to portray the fear the poor little girl must've felt when it happened to her. Very fascinating post discussions had by you guys in both Eps.

Mari Vaz

Season 7 have some great episodes 7x1 is one my favorites (is very dark)

Mari Vaz

Yeah when I watched for the first time I was feeling bad for the protagonist, she was scared, being hunted, memory loss. When they reveal she's a criminal I felt betrayed because I was rooting for her, but right after I also thought - yes this changes things, but if I knew she was a criminal from the go, instead of feeling sorry for her would I feel good watching her being totured? I don't think so

Crispy

oak fucking cooked post reaction.

Rebecca B1

Oh i completely forgot it was only 3 episodes, i didn't even double check ! Thank you

Eboe Thrasher

This one is listed as 4 on Netflix because they include White Christmas as part of it.

Eboe Thrasher

I like Season 6 Episode 1, it is really fucked in its own way.

Eboe Thrasher

But the pain has no true impact when it is repeated every day. It only impacts her for the short period of time after she finds out, until she is reset. She should run the course, and then go to prison so she has to take time to think about it. But she will have done it every day for a year, and the numbers will be on a white board if how much she has done it. She will be upset when she gets back and sees the number. Then they can at seemingly any point in time, take her back and reset her and start the loop again. But when she gets back to prison she has to think about it, with full knowledge. She could be forced to keep a journal. There are ways to make it worse for her, for sure.

So Tired

1:01:41 When Answer said " there's a horror movie you can do about this", I immediately thought of the movie, Companion, it's a 2025 ‧ Horror/Thriller. The same creator who made Barbarian that you guys reacted to.

Knightmare

She recorded the video because she thought pain was entertainment too... everything's a circle

Knightmare

My real issue with the White Bear episode has always been that it makes 0 sense that they would be able to build a functioning theme park out of that. I can't even get to the morality part because if we're being honest, her body wouldn't recover from all that stress enough times to survive more than 5 times... Physically, it just makes no sense. Especially when you add in that the crowd obeying the zookeeper's? orders every run would most likely not happen. Something would happen that would absolutely kill her. It's just literally not sustainable for a human being.

Captain Eaglefort

Except she’s clearly remembering parts of it. That was the point of the flashbacks she was getting. It’s slowly getting into her subconscious. That’s why she recognized his safe place was in the woods before she went with him. So I’d argue it’s still slowly punishing her. I’d also argue that the point isn’t really even to punish her. In an ideal scenario, she’s locked away right? Just a drain on society. Or executed, then at least she’s gone. But still net negative because of the suffering she caused. If her suffering adds happiness into the world and even works as a deterrent (you do fucked up shit, this will happen to you) then hey…at least now she’s adding to the world instead of being worthless or a straight drain.

Fajar Kurniawan

why Oak is disgusted by Ai doll that is basically Wanda and Vision 🤗

Rica

Exactly that! I couldn’t have said it better myself! I’d like to also add that taking your kids to go watch such a thing is just insane!!

AllyBoo124

The part of white bear that is so sinister is the fact that she’s being recorded and that no one will help her because that’s what she did to the little girl. It’s like an integral part of her punishment and seeing her beg them and ask why they don’t do something when that’s what she should’ve been asking herself. It’s still an insane punishment she there are so many ethical things like you guys talked about, but I think in this universe you gang have her punishment without the phones of it all. And black mirror episodes definitely take a lot out of you just with some of the concepts

Kiss the Librarian

Ep 2 definitely meets criteria for cruel and unusual punishment, even if she's guilty. The added layer of it being done for entertainment with people on site enjoying and participating by adding to the prisoner's distress (even without touching her), can arguably create a society that generates more criminals by encouraging sociopathic behavior. It reflects some of the worst parts of our society.

Victoria 🌱

Ahh… back to comfy, feel-good tv time 🔥🧿🔥

Katie

Justice doesn’t get served at all. The whole day she has no clue what she did and what happened. She finds out in the end and knows for what? a few hours before they erase her memories. What’s the point in punishing someone who doesn’t even know what they are being punished for. And for everyone else? They are doing the same thing every single day for their own amusement. I couldn’t imagine having to do that every day for 100 years and literally do nothing else in life

Joseph Jannison

Not gonna lie, but the syncing the tv show method is a terrible way to do it

AVentura

I really like the detail that every time she asked for help she was always desperate and being bailed out, but any time someone else needed help she didn’t hesitate to abandon them and look out only for herself. It adds another layer to her character and kind of brings you inside the mind of the 6 year old who was most likely hopelessly shrieking for help in her final moments

Violet

White Bear is such an incredible story. An incredible, HORRIBLE story. Feeling such sympathy and concern for the main character and then realizing that they're a VILE, EVIL, DISGUSTING, MONSTER......It's such a whiplash moment and COMPLETELY CHANGES everything. I know that some people still feel some sympathy for her even after you learn the truth, but if what she did ISN'T where the line is......I can't have an ounce of sympathy after we learn the truth. If anything I think the punishment for people who hurt children SHOULD be unusual AND CRUEL. FULL STOP.

LaMonica Williams

"White Bear" demonstrates how the audience watching this woman get repeatedly tortured, makes them NO DIFFERENT than the woman watching the torture of a child. They are under the spell of the experience. Just as she said she was under her fiancé. And is it fair to repeatedly torture her when the person you are torturing has no memory of the wrong they committed. It also begs to ask...Is this the punishment she deserves? I mean, Death is too easy. That's why her fiancé chose it. Making her relive what they little girl endured, seems just.

Derek A

The AI episode is so relevant now. AI absolutely CAN mimic people, including their voice. Just minus the skin suit. For now. I think it's hugely dangerous technology. Not just for the delusion, but also for how reality would crash home when the AI got something wrong. It's creepy. It really is like a skin suit version of someone you love. I don't think I would ever do that to someone I love, no matter how much I missed them. But maybe I'm not the target market. Clearly a lot of people have already deluded themselves into thinking those AI relationships are real, and that's despite AI not being particularly good yet. I can only imagine how much worse it'll get.

Michelle Beauchemin

This is a late response, but I have a thought. I think the point of the punishment isn't for her to be aware or remember what she did. She's supposed to feel the same level of terror that her victim felt - confused, scared, helpless. She's supposed to experience the feeling of begging for help, only to realize no one is coming to save you. She's supposed to question why this is happening to her, an "innocent". She isn't supposed to learn a lesson, or feel remorse. That won't fix what she did. Taking away the memories doesn't change who she is at her very core. Just my 2 cents, though.