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Lulu

Yasss lfg Happy Halloween everyone! 🎃

Ali Fakhroo

You have to watch doctor sleep after that because it's complete the whole story !!

serenshadow

Oh heck yes! Hope you do Doctor Sleep too because it's an epic follow up. And it's another flannigan project! He honored both King's books and Kuberick's film.

DustinEatWorld

**Spoiler alert!** Aww, I was so excited for this! It's such a bummer that the two people who hadn't seen it before only thought it was okay—at least based on their ratings. What a shame!

Silv3R2

Just the Halloween present I needed

So Tired

Oh hell yeah!!!! HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE! 🎃

Ryan Towell

I work up in the Arctic and every week leading to Halloween I watch "horror" type films. The Shining and The Thing I ususally wait till I'm working nights in the middle of winter up here and working alone. It really enhances the watching experience. But I'm gonna have to watch this now along with you guys. Can't believe Oak hasn't seen this. This is gonna be fun.

Ron B.

This will be my first time watching. I know Stephen King didn't like it and that's why he got involved with making a tv movie version. Hoping to get The Green Mile sometime soon.

ThetaSigmaTheOriginal

You asked for easter eggs linking this movie to Welcome To Derry. dick hallorann in this is the same guy from Welcome To Derry, who had telepathic abilities and helped put Pennywise (IT) back into the enclosure. At the end of the series he says he's got a job offer at an hotel. This is that job. SPOILERS FOR THIS MOVIE BELOW!!!! Also, in the book he wasn't killed and was instrumental in Danny and Wendy getting away. I assume that in the world that the series Welcome To Derry exists in, Dick wasn't killed at the hotel either. Since it was Stanley Kubrick's choice to branch off from Stephen King's novel, and kill off Hallorann in this movie.

Gambit3838

IT'S THE SHINNING. IYKYK 😆

Lisa Clark

Stephen King famously is not a fan of this adaptation. He does not like the fact that in the book, Jack starts out fairly normal and slowly loses his mind whereas in the film, he feels that the way Jack is written and played, you can immediately tell that something is "off" about him. I respect that, though I think it is a damn good movie.

Lisa Clark

"Where did that come from?" "Because we're watching this on Paramount, which is now owned by Skydance aka-" Y'all, I cannot keep up with these companies. From here on out, I'm just going to assume I'm watching something on Netflix Plus HBO One Paramount Brothers CW Minus.

Kickinthescience

Jack Nicholson and the cinematography definitely carried this movie to legend status

Michael

now you have to do doctor sleep! in my opinion it is the best sequel to any movie. I also recommend the directors cut, everything added in the directors cut adds to the characters and makes the movie that much more meaningful.

Michelle

What MQ couldn't remember in the ax scene where Jack is chopping at the door to get to Wendy is that Jack Nicholson was a volunteer firefighter before becoming an actor so he was trained to use an ax to get through doors quickly. During filming that's exactly what he was doing which messed up the scene because he needed to be taking longer.

Renee S

It's important to note, as someone else here points out, that Stephen King hates this adaptation of his novel. It was Stanley Kubrick who took many liberties with the source material, including Dick Halloran's fate and the ending. While I appreciate the film work and the Kubrickian nuances, I think it would be perfectly fair to simply say this is only loosely based on King's novel :) Loved watching it with both the guys who have seen it and the guys who haven't. It's a fun watch when you can chuckle at the concept of Tony and Shelly Duvall's over the top style, lol. I totally remember watching this with my mom around the age of nine or so and that's what we did even then. We thought Shelly was what made the psychological horror a little less terrifying over all. And it's meant to be implied during the scene where Dick Halloran calls back to Colorado after getting this weird feeling down in Florida, that Danny was communicating their situation to him with their shining ability. That's what he did in the book. It wasn't said in this version of the movie, but Dick even tells Danny to "call out to him" if anything happens and he needs Dick's help. So Danny did alert Dick across the miles and tell him that things had gone bad and he should come help, though in the book, Dick is a bigger help to Danny and Wendy than he ends up being in this telling of the story :)

ElmSt Reactions

Great movie and yes the ending definitely is confusing. I love this movie, even have it tattooed on my chest and Redrum across my shoulder lol

serenshadow

Yeah, I think this is one that is better without all the talking and interruptions and laughing. It's better to stay in that tension, not break it. It's still so good because of how it affects those watching it - the tension and the fear. Yeah, there's overacting because it's a product of it's time, but that tension is everything. We get to feel what's building under the surface. It's a helluva thing.

Bryan

y’all finally get to experience this 🔥🔥 heard good things about doctor sleep but personally haven’t seen it

Ron B.

Did you guys catch the "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" reference in The Best Man when Robin told Harper " All work and no play makes Harper a very dull boy" . I never understood what that meant. now I get it...because Harper is a writer like Jack is here.

serenshadow

So some things you should know is that the movie is very different from the book. For instance, I can't recall for sure but I think the ending in the book was very different than in this. King actually did not like this film - he didn't like that changes that were made or the context that got left out. Doctor Sleep, the followup, does an excellent job of honoring both the book version and the film version. That scene with Jack and Wendy on the stairs was actually not easy for Shelley to do. Kubrick put her through hell to get that scene. The did it over and over and over again. Kubrick terrorized Shelley and told everyone on set not to comfort her in any way. She actually developed white hair on the set of this movie because of what she was put through. That fear and desperation in that scene was very, very real. I highly recommend a rewatch for Oak and Dave at home in their own time. No interruptions. This movie is best if you let yourself live in that tension and feel what's bubbling under the surface. You are supposed to be uncomfortable... That's the point. It's a film in which you watch someone lose their sanity - or what's left. That's why this movie is so powerful. It's certainly not the overacting. It's everything coming together to put you at the end of your seat and stiff with tension as you watch a man devolve.

Lisa Clark

I think I can understand why, if you didn't watch this growing up, you wouldn't enjoy it. There have been plenty of movies I've watched that are considered classics where, for a number of reasons, it just didn't work me.

enyo96

Lisa I totally agree. Some movies like this and The Exorcist are just not as scary to me because I’ve seen what modern horror movies can do now and unfortunately older horror movies just can’t live up to it. Still a good movie but it’s just kind of average.

Raymond Terry

A great film. Funny personal tidbit: One of the photoshop training courses I did a long long time ago used the real hotel as a practice image.

Wormtongue

Oak so uncomfortable… absolutely priceless 👹👻

Ala Lulu

What a movie! I really hope you guys who saw this for the first time give it another chance. I personally loved it more upon rewatching. I'm also really looking forward to seeing more of Kubrick's movies on the channel in the future: 2001: A Space Odyssey, Eyes Wide Shut, A Clockwork Orange, and others. Some of his films may be confusing the first time you watch them, but each one stays in your head, and each of his works has influenced the world of cinema.

Mister Lou

"Shelly backing up the stairs has gotta be the easiest day at work" umm no, not really. Stanley made her redo those takes 127 times.

VariantsWatchMovies

I'm glad you guys finally got to The Shining! I've been looking forward to this reaction. I have somewhat complicated feelings about this film, and I'm realizing there's a theme developing in my reactions to your Stephen King watches, particularly my comments on Carrie. I think two things can be true. The Shining is an important story within King's larger universe, and Kubrick's The Shining is an important film in cinema history. But I'm not sure they're important for the same reasons, or even that they're telling quite the same story. King famously disliked Kubrick's adaptation, while many consider it one of the greatest horror films ever made. I don't think either perspective is necessarily wrong. First, I want to touch on a couple of your observations during the reaction. DD, you mentioned being confused by some of the musical choices, particularly the placement of the strings in a few spots. I actually think that's part of what makes the score so effective. It's unsettling, sometimes seemingly inappropriate, and keeps the audience slightly off balance. Obviously, only Kubrick could tell us exactly what he intended, but I think there's something brilliant about using sound to make the audience uncomfortable even when nothing particularly scary is happening on screen. I think it works, but can see why you didn't. We're watching a man descend into madness, and we're going along for the ride. The music doesn't always make sense because the world we're experiencing doesn't make sense. Things feel wrong, even when we can't identify why. MQ, you mentioned those long tracking shots following Danny through the Overlook and how effectively they establish the hotel's enormous size. What's fascinating is that the Overlook's layout portrayed in the film is actually impossible. There are windows where windows shouldn’t exist, rooms and corridors that couldn't logically connect, and spatial relationships that don't add up. There's been some analysis written on this, and whether every inconsistency was intentional or not, the effect is disorienting. Something about the hotel is fundamentally wrong. I think that's a big part of why the film works. Kubrick doesn't just show us an unsettling environment; he makes us experience one. As for the performances, I wonder whether Nicholson's Jack suffers a little from how familiar audiences have become with his particular brand of crazy. You mentioned the Joker during your reaction, and I think that's a fair comparison. Watching The Shining today, it's difficult not to see shades of the Joker. In 1980, audiences didn't have that association. Nicholson had certainly played volatile characters before, but I wonder whether Jack Torrance would have felt more unpredictable and frightening to audiences seeing him for the first time. Because he really IS a scary freaking guy in this film. My older brother saw The Shining in theaters when it was released in 1980. He would have been around 18 at the time. When he got home, he walked into the bedroom he shared with my other brother, turned on the lights, and said that it was the scariest movie he'd ever seen. They slept with the lights on that night. lol While I think this is an excellent horror film, I don't personally find it THAT frightening (for me it’s more unsettling). Maybe that's partly because I'd read the book and already knew the story. Or maybe Kubrick's particular brand of psychological horror just doesn't hit the same nerves for me. Films like The Exorcist, The Omen, and The Changeling from roughly that era frightened me much more, and there are certainly more modern films that have scared the crap out of me. But I think my brother's reaction says something about experiencing The Shining when it was new, before decades of references, parodies, and Nicholson's later performances made so much of its imagery familiar. It's difficult to recreate the experience of seeing something for the first time when it has already become part of pop culture. And that brings me to one of King's biggest criticisms of the adaptation. In the novel, Jack is a deeply flawed man struggling against his own demons, and the Overlook exploits those weaknesses. There's a tragedy in watching someone who might have been saved become consumed by the hotel. Kubrick's Jack, on the other hand, feels dangerous almost from the beginning. It's less a story of a good man being corrupted and more a story of a frightening man becoming increasingly unhinged. Those are two very different approaches to the same character, and I think that's a big part of why King objected to the film. Shelley Duvall is another interesting piece of this. There's quite a bit written about the difficult atmosphere Kubrick created during filming, particularly for Duvall, and that's a separate conversation worth exploring. King also disliked how Wendy was portrayed compared with the much stronger, more resourceful character he wrote. I'm a bit conflicted. I understand King's criticism, yet I also find Duvall's Wendy believable (all credit to Shelley). Her reactions to Jack, her fear, her attempts to appease him, and eventually her desperation to protect Danny all feel very human to me. She may not be King's Wendy, but I'm not convinced that makes her an ineffective character in Kubrick's movie. I think your scores are fair. If you're judging The Shining as an adaptation of King's novel, or even on just the story, there are legitimate reasons to be disappointed. Kubrick strips away much of the emotional complexity that makes the original story compelling, particularly Jack's struggle with alcoholism, his relationship with Danny, and the hotel's larger mythology. But if you're judging it as a standalone horror film, especially considering when it was made, I think it's extraordinary. The performances, cinematography, sound design, and atmosphere have influenced generations of filmmakers. It creates a sense of dread that doesn't depend on jump scares or even on the audience fully understanding what's happening. This leads me to a bit of internal conflict I'm having about the renewed interest in King's material, through Mike Flanagan's adaptations. I'm loving what he's doing with King's universe. He seems able to put his own stamp on King's material without completely losing its original spirit. I understand some of the criticism, because Flanagan's characters aren't necessarily King's characters (and often I think they're better, but that's just my opinion). Sometimes I wish Kubrick's The Shining didn't exist, because I'd love to see what a filmmaker like Flanagan could do with a more faithful adaptation of the novel. But at the same time, I don't think The Shining should be remade. Not because Kubrick's film is perfect. It isn't. And certainly not because King's original story doesn't deserve a more faithful adaptation. It's because Kubrick's version has become so deeply embedded in pop culture that I think it would be almost impossible for another filmmaker to escape its shadow. The imagery, the performances, the music, the Overlook itself, they're practically inseparable from what audiences now think of as The Shining. And yes, King got a more faithful adaptation with the 1997 miniseries. I'm almost positive I watched it, but the only thing I remember about it is that the guy from Wings played Jack Torrance. Which, now that I think about it, might actually bolster my point. A more faithful adaptation doesn't necessarily become the version audiences remember. Kubrick's film may not be King's The Shining, but it has become The Shining in pop culture. A new adaptation might tell King's story better, but would audiences allow it to be its own film? Or would every casting choice, every scene, and every interpretation be measured against Kubrick? While part of me would love to see a Flanagan The Shining because I don't think Kubrick told the definitive version of King's story, but he may have created the definitive cinematic identity of The Shining. I'm really looking forward to your reaction to Doctor Sleep (and Yay! I just saw it in November's trailer). I think all of you are going to enjoy it, and there are some wonderful payoffs from having watched The Shining first. Flanagan had the rather unenviable task of finding a way to honor both King's story and Kubrick's film. I'm very curious to hear your thoughts comparing it to The Shining!

Jessie

i somehow never thought about it because this movie is so iconic, but the ending with the picture really is pretty silly, which makes sense because stephen king is notorious for his silly endings. I think he knows it too. It's funny, he's on record as loving the adaptation of 'The Mist' for its drastic change to his original ending.

Miss Freaky

I'm not surprised Oak was not a fan of the story. There is a paranormal aspect to this. From what I can recall, Oak is not a fan of paranormal or ghost stories. DD - the build up in the score when Jack enters the Gold Room as he is speaking with the bartender - the bartender is a ghost - the music reflects this. Jack did say at the beginning when speaking with Wendy - "it was as thought I'd been here before.....we all have moments of deja vu" - I think Jack says this as he's starting to feel connected to the hotel and the hotel responded. Please, please watch Doctor Sleep! Also, please watch the director's cut version. Happy Halloween everyone! 👻👻

Miss Freaky

K, just watched your November trailer! What a Halloween treat!! We are getting DS!! Woot, woot! Thank you Badd Medicine!!!!!!! 😊😊

Anthony Gonz

Guys! watch Doctor Sleep, please. It's one of those sequels that a lot of people consider to be as good or better than the original. Plus, it's Mike Flanagan doing yet another Stephen King adaptation, absolutely amazing film.

Delia P

Grady told Jack that Danny was asking Dick Halloran for help. You saw him do it when he was shaking and drooling while Dick got images, so yes they can shine contact over distance. The girls weren’t warning him, they hated the overlook in life but once dead they were part of it. I think Mason is right about the absorption of Jack into the hotel. I think Jack has enough shining to be affected quickly but not enough that he ever noticed it outside of the Overlook. The Overlook is absolutely a character and it gets stronger feeding off of Danny and Jack’s shine, to the point they can physically interact and become visible to Wendy.. You should watch the sequel Doctor Sleep it’s excellent.

Adrianna Marie Aka AD

So excited and curious to see how Oak and Dave will feel about Doctor Sleep. Also Answer and MQ if they haven't seen it yet.

Jacqueline (xXMalaaaXx YT)

Ahhhh!!! I'm so happy you guys changed the background on the website to Eli and Charity's creation ❤️ You guys are so caring for your community, love y'all heaps!!

Wilde1890

The acting in this film is just amazing!!!!! You guys need to go to the hotel now.

Lisa Clark

Somebody should pin this comment. It's fucking great.

Kalkent

My fav horror film ever. Nothing even comes close. The masterful direction by the great Stanley Kubrick, the revolutionary cinematography by John Alcott, the dynamic performance by one of the great actors in Jack Nicholson; it captures and holds atmosphere like no other, the Overlook hotel feels like a character unto itself. The mythology that's never explained makes the whole story that much more harrowing. Absolutely love it. 4.5 Answers P.S. Stephen King absolutely despises it to this day.

MaddieB

Great reaction guys. Another Jack Nicholson movie you should consider reacting to, unless all of you haven´t already seen it yet, is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 😉

Fajar Kurniawan

Someone mentioned Jack Nicholson sometimes stared at the camera (to viewers) to make us feel he know we are watching him (some kind of horror 4th wall). Now is my chance to re-watch it again to find out if that's true

PhatBoySteven

I was just at Timberline Lodge last week where the outside of the hotel was filmed for this movie. Views were absolutely beautiful.

Storm

Pleaaase do more Kubrick, i would love a reaction to Eyes Wide Shut

Aubrey

First, let me say that while this film is a masterpiece, Kubrick can get bent for what he put Shelley Duvall through. Second, I haven't seen Doctor Sleep, so my opinion may change, but my take on the end is that Jack is frozen in time and his essence is subsumed by the hotel. Danny and Wendy escape, but Jack will be trapped there forever. The fact that he knows the names of the ghosts/historical characters and vice versa seems to indicate that this isn't the first time they've met. Thus, we can assume that he really has been the caretaker all this time, and his spirit/energy/whatever is continuously cycling/reincarnating.

Bryan

I understand that this is a very influential movie and I can acknowledge the craftsmanship for all parties involved to put it together, but speaking solely in terms of enjoyment I struggle to really enjoy this movie and find it just okay. I much prefer the follow up Doctor Sleep. I like slow burns, but this movie kind of falls into the category of “not much happens until the last 20 minutes” for me. You get to see Jack slowly losing his mind but that decline is so gradual and there is so much dead space in between those moments that it can feel a bit boring and uninteresting. It can, at times, feel like just a series of events happening that are weird for the sake of being weird and so much of the narrative connections have to happen in your head. That can get in the way for me because, rather than going on the ride of the movie and putting the pieces together as it goes along, I’m stuck confused on things that happened 4 scenes ago and only get more lost as it goes. Maybe it’s just the fact the I tend to struggle with horror movies from the 70s and 80s, but this movie really struggles to keep me engaged until you get to the ending.

Sarah_M

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Marie RammGirl

hahahaha i know what you're referencing from a certain famous cartoon hehe 😆

ShaniaBADDIE4LIFE🤘🐶🐱✨

Forget the story that the lodge/resort was fucking beautiful. I really loved how they shot it. And the guys are right seeing Danny/Tony/Doc with his big wheel going around the hotel is a dream 😂

Marie RammGirl

Your reactions to teasing Oak over the "Tuesday" Jumpscare & DD's reaction/impression of Jack dipping his egg was amusing 😆 First time watch for me too, not read the book either, but I'm aware of the iconic scenes in this movie (Here's Johnny/Frozen Jack, RedRum) that's a clever creative touch, that 'Redrum' is 'Murder' backwards, now I know where the "All Work, No Play Makes Jack a Dull Boy" is from now & I did think of TWD's Negan when I heard Jack say "Little Pig, Let Me In" 😄 loved your pop reactions to the "Here's Johnny"/Frozen Jack Parts. Those people dressed up in a Animal Suit/Tuxedo doing "Stuff & Thangs" was surely a random, strange sight hehe. The colours/sound design used were good, brilliant acting by 3 main characters, but apart from the well known famous scenes, the actual storyline abit of slow burner for me, ending abit confusing with the photo too, but I'll take Quinn's interpretation of it as closure.

ShaniaBADDIE4LIFE🤘🐶🐱✨

I just liked getting to finally watch it from the first time and get all the memes and references from movies, etc.

ShaniaBADDIE4LIFE🤘🐶🐱✨

Someone help me out. What the hell was going on with the person wearing the dog costume? Because that shit threw me off. 🤨

Ciara A.G.

Can confirm as I’m re-reading The Shining, the ending is very very different. But tbh the entire movie is different from the book. Kubrick didn’t even have the decency to leave the room number as it was (217 in the book). Kubrick was a real piece of work to say the least.

Ciara A.G.

As a side note and I do hope it’s been mentioned and noted, you should watch the director’s cut/extended edition of Doctor Sleep.

Gem

Oak and Dave have never watched The Shining??? I'm so in!

Hal Perry

This movie reminds me of Tom Cruise's Eyes Wide Shut,Both are a very uncomfortable experience.

serenshadow

Thanks for the clarification. I haven't read the book but I did see King's TV movie adaptation he did on The Shining, which I know stays true to the book. It's been ages though so I couldn't quite remember.

Sam

So great catching this again with you guys. A bit like The Exorcist, all the parodies etc do lessen the impact somewhat but I love this film. To really get an appreciation of how masterful it really is I’d urge you to watch Room 237 doc on Netflix. Soo good!!!!

Isolde

Basically it’s a reference to the book. Horace Derwent (past owner of the hotel) had a guy who was in love with him and followed him around and allowed himself to be humiliated by him for sexual kicks. He dressed as a dog for a party once. Jack sees their ghosts in the ballroom. So yeah it’s just to show the hotels dark past and weird shit going on at that time🫠

Isolde

I hope you guys explore more of Stanley Kubricks movies as they are one of a kind! But The Shining is usually a mid movie among his other works, I sure recommend Barry Lyndon and Eyes wide shut🤗

Mariah

I'm so excited to watch this with you guys! I just watched this for the second time a week ago in Stevens Point. The cinema and UWSP are hosting a Scholars and Screams all of October that ends this coming Wednesday with Sinners. They have a professor pick a horror movie and have a lecture on the movie before screening it on the Mega Screen. It was amazing! Dr. Ross Tangedal gave a great lecture about the film and its impact on society. Can't wait to see all your reactions to this!

Laura Murray

I'll be honest, I think Stephen sometimes doesn't get that certain things he writes, won't necessarily work in a film. I understand his frustrations, especially with the room number, as that is petty. But the hedge animals in the book, for example, I feel wouldn't have worked as well on screen, as it does in your head. A lot of the stuff he writes is great in your head, but probably wouldn't translate as well. I also actually prefer how Jack starts off quite strange, in the film, as I think it builds tension really well.

Chloe

This was a first time watch for me, I’m glad I watched it because I had no idea the tittle was based off of a telepathic ability. I think I had the same expression as Oak and Dave about half way through the movie. I would have enjoyed it more if it did more story telling about the shinning ability. Looking forward to Dr. Sleep, I’ve heard good things about it.

Alyssa Dyson

No beer and no tv make Homer something something….go crazy? Don’t mind if I do!! Lmao every time I see this movie I just think of the simpsons episode the shinning.

Ciara A.G.

I recommend the book. Quite frankly, I couldn’t watch King’s version. As soon as I saw the Tony bit, I bailed because even in the book it’s not like that. But I cannot attest to the rest of King’s tv movie version vs his own book. But again, I recommend the book. It’s not a very long read but it gives you an appreciation for the story itself and how well Flanagan did to combine the two. (I have also read Doctor Sleep and I think Flanagan did well overall with what he was given.)

Susan Araujo

OMG!!! I'm so happy that ya'll finally had the opportunity to watch & /or re-watch this cinematic class. Watching Jack Nicholson as an actor portray his character Jack Torrance slowly descend in a downward spiral into madness throughout this movie is a testament to his craft. And while Jack is losing his mind, Shelley Duvall's character "Wendy" is in pure terror just trying to escape while protecting her child. Between Directing by Stanley Kubrick & Cinematography by John Alcott & The Entire Cast & Crew, you as a viewer are pulled into the storyline and become immersed in the fear of what's real or not. *** Diamond Dave, you asked about the camera work that was done in the hallway scene when Danny was riding his bike. That scene, (among so many others) including the scene on the stairs when Jack was falling backwards was done using a Steadicam. It was also operated by Garrett Brown (the inventor of the Steadicam).