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The earliest known version of the tale is found in the French narrative Perceforest, written between 1330 and 1344.[7] Another was the Catalan poem Frayre de Joy e Sor de Paser.[8] Giambattista Basile wrote another, "Sun, Moon, and Talia" for his collection Pentamerone, published posthumously in 1634–36[9] and adapted by Charles Perrault in Histoires ou contes du temps passé in 1697. The version collected and printed by the Brothers Grimm was one orally transmitted from the Perrault version,[10] while including own attributes like the thorny rose hedge and the curse.[11]

Sun, Moon, and Talia (Italian: Sole, Luna, e Talia) is an Italian literary fairy tale written by Giambattista Basile and published posthumously in the last volume of his 1634-36 work, the Pentamerone. Charles Perrault retold this fairy tale in 1697 as Sleeping Beauty, as did the Brothers Grimm in 1812 as Little Briar Rose.

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Sammypt

Mmmm wet Italian beef Cecil sandwiches 😋

Denise Huston

Chances are the old woman would have been working on a drop spindle, not like...a spinning wheel. So that part isn’t as silly as it could be.

outaspaceman

What..?! No hideously deformed diminutive outcasts scraping a meagre existence subsistence mining..??

Joshua

You guys should do an episode on Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm. Mentioning the Etruscans is enough to annoy Tom but all of the asides about philology might just make his head explode.

Hugh Mongo Johnson

I feel like I'm on some sort of list after listening to this. And it's not a good one ...

J. Vizzle

Praise Satan! I get 39 mins and 33 secs of pure Podcast bliss this week.

Zach Van Stanley

Aside from everything else messed up about this, it’s pretty awful to imagine being put into a sleep because some royal was sleeping

outaspaceman

Oh, yep.. Still, pretty unpleasant all the same..😬👍

Scot Boeringer

D&D nerd representing and appreciative.

Mounty of Madness

Wait a minute, that's Snow White... how is there necrophilia in both of them?

WelcomeToFalse

So, this other king was a falconer and a rapist? Did Tom leave out the part where this king decapitated a whale?

Tyler Frederick

Charlie Chaplin would be a great biography for this podcast

Podkayne of Fourth Dimensional Mars

Someone beat me to mentioning drop spindles! Though I was just gonna say that at least the Disney spinsters would still have them. There’s be textiles, but on a slower scale.

Chase

I LITERALLY just listened to the first half of this episode with my daughter and the second half by myself! She will not be finishing this episode, lol.

Laura Lusby

SPINDLES END is a really good retelling of this, by Robin McKinley

Jennifer Gorman

I just listened and vote for more fairy tale episodes!