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Diego Guzmán

Lol! Didn't expect that plot twist pre show shenanigans

Andrew MacDonald

Am I crazy for not having sympathy for the bike thieves, despite how dorky their nemesis is?

Gmork

Wow -- waiting til Tom is away to do a bike episode? Next time Eli is gone, is Tom going to do an essay on plastic thumbs?

Gmork

I don' have any sympathy for the thieves. But I also have more sympathy for a victim who loses a cheapass bike that they can't replace than for someone who has a luxury $10k bike.

Nashjillian

Eli's character work...A+

Jacquelyn H Salas

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Unlearning Ethics.

What an odd episode. Sorry I meant bad episode. What a bad episode. Bikes are somehow affluent?

Ian (no, not that one)

Didn't really care for the characterization of people who spend money on bicycles as affluent. Most of them are just working class folk who have bikes instead of cars because everything about Seattle transportation is fucked and the bike was the best option. People spend "car money" on bikes because the bike is their car.

Unlearning Ethics.

Yeah, not sure why the hosts don't understand that just because crime may be a result of social conditions, it doesn't mean it's all a victimless crime. You can have a restorative approach to justice, and keep people out of prison, while also caring that People's source of transportation is stolen.

Brian Cunningham

This episode is stupid. I had my bike stolen from me when it was my main transport. It sucked.

Miles G

Yeah, god forbid someone care about having something they've dedicated a lot of time and money to get stolen, especially when that thing is often an important mode of transportation for people living in cities like Seattle... I get it, the article is absurd and "Bike Batman" seems like he's doing a lot of things he probably shouldn't be, but these aren't victimless crimes. Also, somehow I doubt Noah would be so willing to excuse petty theft if it was someone stealing his retro console collection

Paul Freelend

What a bizarrely tone-deaf episode. It's like the boys leapt from the comparatively solid ACAB to "stealing from other people is fine as long as they're affluent enough", a level of strawman leftist logic that the strawman leftists in The Dark Knight Rises would call a bit of a stretch.

Andrew MacDonald

I love how people have turned on the podcast and their new hero is Bike Batman. All those rich people who drive.........bikes. I'm sure there are some people who have super expensive bikes, but it's not like they can be tracked like a car can. It's also harder to steal a car. Also, no matter how expensive a bike is, it's not as expensive as a car.

Miles G

Apparently spending less than 2 grand on a reliable mode of transportation that will probably last you more than a decade makes you some kind of bourgeois elite it's ok to steal from. Something tells me the hosts wouldn't feel the same way if someone stole $2000 worth of parts from their cars

Erik

This would have been so much better without the "bike theft is OK because some bikes are non-cheap and many thieves are poor" take. Many people use their bikes for transportation and for their jobs. Fuck bike thieves. This isn't desperate people taking food to feed their families, this is people hurting other people to make a quick buck. Now do one where you say it's OK if a poor person breaks into your home and takes expensive computers and podcasting equipment because, y'know, they're poor.

B. King

Bit fast on the backlash. One episode of some jokes that didn't work isn't "oh my god! They've lost touch with ______" that we are seeing here in the comments. The people at PIAT have years of good works they've been part of. But one episode has you screaming from the rooftops? Simmer down and maybe touch grass today. There are much larger issues in the US to put your anger energy into.

B. King

You do you fellow listener, but to me, calling them "edgelords" we are "asskissing the insane rich murderous douchebro" and saying that you are concerned and think the "entire PiaT network is desperate to appeal to nihilist republican-raised teens and is repeating vibes-based bullshit" is different than constructive criticism and feedback that this episode missed the mark and came across as mean and punching down. I'm all for criticism. It's part of the entire peer to peer environment at my job. But there is a huge difference constructive redirection criticism and ad hominem labeling of the guys as edgelords, asskissers, and sellouts to the extreme right.