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Sakashite Fukasumi

"Citation Needed... you don't have to be a gross antisemite for us to do an essay on you, but it helps!"

MutatedWisdom

I hear of Lindbergh being racist *by early 20th century standards* and it reminds of H. P. Lovecraft, potentially another good candidate for CN.

Claire Nollet

Everyone needs to read James Thurber's classic short story, "The Greatest Man in the World," written in 1931. It tells the "true story" of Jackie "Pal" Smurch, a "little vulgarian," whose neighbors in his small town regard him as "a nuisance and a menace," who makes a wildly improbable flight around the world, fortified only by "a gallon of bootleg gin and six pounds of salami." The story satirizes how America idolizes heroes, and what would happen if we were presented with a hero who was "a congenital hooligan mentally and morally unequipped to cope with his own prodigious fame."

outaspaceman

I thought this was about cheese..

Cheryl

Indeed, whatever would happen, I wonder, if we were presented with such a “hero”? , I’m gonna toss out a wildly speculative thought …. Perhaps, if presented with such a “hero,” there might exist a possibility, however slight, for some Americans to begin following some outrageous conspiracy theory cult which affirms and exalts, thus emboldens, said hero, and then, potentially, could lead up to …. oh, I don’t know …. let’s say …. just as an example …. a collective activity, by and between the hero’s most ardent fans, to coordinate and execute, en masse, a concerted effort to overthrow their own government, by any manner and through any means necessary? Not that any such thing would ever happen in real life, mind you! 😉 I’m gonna check out that book ASAP! Thx for the suggest! 🤘🏻

Claire Nollet

Well, as you say, speaking speculatively, what if someone was to have read Thurber's story in 2016? And what if that person came across the following passages: "It was inevitable that some day there would come roaring out of the skies a national hero of insufficient intelligence, background, and character successfully to endure the mounting orgies of glory ..." After Smurch's mother is interviewed by authorities and she expresses her contempt for her son, remarking, "Ah, the hell with him. I hope he drowns," the Secretary of State of the USA comments, "I trust that his mother's prayer will be answered." I won't ruin the end of the story for you, but just suppose -- speaking speculatively -- that a person reading about the clever solution employed by the men who faced the awful problem of a "little vulgarian" gaining prominence in the USA, what if a person reading that wistfully wished that such a solution could have been applied in 2016? Such a thing could never be done, and OF COURSE, no one would wish such a thing on anyone, but just imagine if a reader were to have thought such a thing? Well, it's all hypothetical, of course.