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"The Lorelei Signal" Full Reaction! - Star Trek: The Animated Series Season 1

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SuicuneSol

This series cracks me up. I can't believe Majel Barrett seems to be voicing every female character in the show with the exception of Uhura.

Greg

To add on to what Suicune said -- totally correct. Due to the limited budget, they got Majel to voice pretty much every secondary woman and James Doohan to voice about every secondary man. :) At least they had great voices for this one! Once again I'm in agreement with you about your thoughts and observations for this episode Bunny -- I'm sure sooner or later we will disagree on an episode but today is not that day, LOL I really enjoy this episode, and I recall it making a strong impression on me also when I watched it on Netflix all those years ago. Usually fiction has always shown a man saving a woman, so an episode where the women of the Enterprise have to save the day is rather refreshing and entertaining, and fits in well with the whole Women's Lib movement that started in the 1970's. In fact, when I finally decided to start watching some anime recently, one of the themes I was most interested in and did research on was top anime series where the girl has to protect the guy, as I enjoy things where the old tropes get tossed on their head and reversed, and I've seen one show so far where that was the theme with more planned. I actually had never heard of the Lorelei before this, so thanks for the explanation about this, and now the episode makes a lot more sense. Some observations about the episode and the things that happened in it: Vulcans do have limited telepathic power, they can communicate that way with members of their own race and other telepathic races. I don't think TOS showed this much, but you see a lot more of this in later shows. Combine that with the fact he's close to Nurse Chapel -- she does love him, after all, as an episode of TOS strongly implied -- and the fact Spock could probably 'sense' her, and it makes sense he could speak to her through telepathy so he could be rescued. The impression I got was that the Lorelei race were kind of like vampires -- due to what happened to them on this planet, they need life essence, not to survive but to function. If you recall someone said in the episode that they seemed weak and not very active when the landing party first showed up. Every 26 years they use their technology to lure in a passing ship, drain the men of their life force till they die, and then use that energy to survive. I honestly think they don't WANT to, but they are stuck there on that world, and perhaps they tried to ask for help but the men were in that kind of trance state so that nobody was willing to assist. (I assume women were on those ships also, so what happened to THEM and why they didn't do something along the lines of Uhura and Chapel, I just don't know.) From the start of the episode, related to that, we found out that Federation, Klingon, and Romulan ships had all gone missing. It's interesting that there's a limited line of communication between the great powers, and clearly the Federation had found out the other races had lost ships there. I kind of equate it to the Star Trek equiv of the 'Hot Line' between Washington and Moscow to be used for direct and emergency communications. Yes, that was Scotty singing at that one part. Wikipedia tells me it's from an old Welsh folk song, "Yr Hufen Melyn" ("The Yellow Cream") He could do some really amazing voices, and the one time I saw him at a con a long time ago he did a number of them for us there also. I also would be interested to know what Nichols thought of this episode. I do see this one tidbit from Wikipedia: Co-producer Lou Scheimer recounted that during the table read for the episode, "Nichelle [Nichols] yelled happily, 'What you're kidding? I actually get to run the Enterprise? Really?' It broke the whole room up." Finally, yeah, both the animation style and the 'running' animations are VERY typical of 60's through 80's cartoons -- you saw a ton of that with cartoons such as Scooby Do, He-Man, and others. It looks laughable now, but they did the best they could with the limited frames of animation that they had to work with. But the animation in TAS is really beautiful and well done overall.

William Terry

Hey I know what this series reminds me of-Yellow Submarine The Movie! The accelerated aging out of the landing party harkens back to the When I'm 64 sequence. There's much to unpack here, so I will just note that this is the most girl-friendly episode yet in the ST:TOSs. It seems they are finally reaching out to the other half of the viewing audience. Without the expansion Star Trek remains just another sci-fi show. Happy with the animated series & totally agree with bunny that it's a shame they weren't able to fit this stuff into a live action format. Still they tried a live action Yellow Submarine movie and got Magical Mystery Tour so maybe it's a good thing.

Dave Riley

OMG, the transporter being used to examine and solve unique problems started here! It's been a tool used by writers over many Star Trek series. I argue that if the transporter became a handy "Ctrl-Z" undo, that their memories should have done the same, and Kirk and the others would not know what had happened during that same period as the "undo." In the "Enemy Within" it was used to combine two patterns that were split, but here it was used to go back to a previous transport. Imagine the possibilities. Save a copy of you from the buffer when you were about 20, come back in 50-60 years, do the undo. You are 20 again and the past years didn't happen and live a new life. I think I would open a business and call it "Control Z." Step into the transporter, save the buffer, file it away, come back later in your life.

Lee

Nichelle Nichols also voiced some of the other women, as well as the Enterprise computer (which is odd, since Majel was right there LOL).

Lee

I would have liked to have seen this one in live-action as well, although in that case, they surely would have killed the male redshirt. How better to indicate the danger to our regulars than by offing some poor schmo? They never could resist doing it in the original series. (Speaking of which, I wonder if Carlos had a final tally for all the fallen redshirts in TOS?) Bunny doing her own research on the writers? What does that leave for me to type about here? The color palette of the backgrounds? LOL

Greg

I also believed in the 'Redshirt curse' for a long time but this short article breaks down the final count: In fact, they’re safer than those wearing other colors.That’s according to Matthew Barsalou, who debunked the red shirt curse for Significance Magazine by mathematically breaking down the death rates, by uniform color, of characters on the original Star Trek. A simple pie chart reveals 55 total deaths and, yes, red shirts perished in frightening numbers. A whopping 24 died, compared to 9 in yellow/gold command and 7 in blue, with 15 crossing into the final frontier in unidentified colors. However, it’s all a matter of perspective and percentages. There were 430 crewmen aboard the Enterprise, 239 of them in engineering, security or operations, and all wore red. So, in reality, they had a decent survival rate, and it was, statistically speaking – courtesy of a little something called Bayes’ theorem -- the folks in gold who were more likely to meet their maker.

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

A very fun one. It’s great that they gave Uhura an episode where she really gets to shine. I love that! It might have been nice to see in live action. On the other hand, given the iffy old age makeup we got in “The Deadly Years” maybe we’re better off! 😝

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

Not only that but James Doohan voiced like 50 different characters over the course of the series.

Trilogian

Gamesters of Triskelion

Trilogian

Gamesters of Triskelion, Paradise Syndrome, and Cloud Minders are all brilliant. Anyone who disagrees must be a DS9 fan. I don’t doubt this was intended to be a live action episode, but the only downside would have been under budget sets vs Filmation’s incredible background paintings! They were beautiful in every show they did. Plenty of great things to come from TAS, including things that carry over into later Trek! Really glad you’re enjoying them, Bunny!

Greg

Can we both love those episodes AND love DS9? :)

Trilogian

KIRK: “You go right on believing, Flavious. All men are brothers.” All Trekkies, too. 🖖

Mark Gosine

Can we both love those episodes AND love DS9? :)

bunnytails

Haha. I still don’t recognize the names of most of the writers 😁

Gary Shapiro

I totally agree with you about Uhura! Loved how she took command. By the way, I believe in English it's pronounced Lor-i-lie (the last syllable rhymes with "sky").