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Star Trek: The Next Generation 1x8 "Justice" - Full Watch-along (Patreon)

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2025-10-10 18:00:08
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2026-10

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Star Trek: The Next Generation 1x8 "Justice" - Full Watch-along

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Greg

I've always liked this episode, and think it holds up pretty well today. I'm not sure I love it as MUCH as Bunny seems like she does, but it raises some interesting questions that make you think, in the best tradition of Star Trek. First off, agree with her that the locations and sets and costumes were great. This episode caused some problems when it first aired (as MANY Season One episodes did) with the purtian mindset that is often found here in the United States. However, it was also praised for showing what a more open and peaceful society could look like, where people were much more friendly and accepting to each other. Of course we know NOW that society is built upon the whole 'Justice' system -- you need to pay attention to where the off limit areas are each day and obey that at the cost of your life. It's a great example of how one group of people thinks something is totally normal and good, and another group of people sees that and goes 'what the hell are you people doing/thinking?' Once again we have another episode that has shades form other TOS episodes for inspiration and ideas, but I thought it worked better in this case. Good acting in this one also and we get increased character development. Crushers first name is Beverly and I thought she did a great job holding it together -- she's very concerned and worried about her son, of course, but she knows her duties as a Doctor comes first and she let's that take priority, only demanding what Picard is going to do after that is finished. I never thought about Tasha in that way, but I think Bunny makes a great point about how happy that she seemed to get a warm and friendly hug -- because yes, she would be missing that affection for a lot of her life. The Federation saved her in many ways, but it couldn't provide everything. I always thought Worf was intending to communicate that Klingons, since they are stronger and more powerful then humans, have that mindset extend to all aspects of their society -- including making love. It's much more....shall we say, physical, then what most of us are used to, LOL (There's actually more I wish I could say about all this, but spoilers) The Prime Directive thing is handled in a great way in this episode. While it's a good idea, there are times and cases in which it's broken and Starfleet looks the other way. It's impossible to know for sure if anything happened to Picard due to what he did here (and as the Captain he would take sole responsibility for it) but I THINK that after getting Picard's report on the whole situation some Admiral reading it would decide it was justified in this case, mark the world as off limits, and not say anything else about the matter. After all, as you pointed out, they had to convince the 'God race' to let them break it (by being allowing beam everyone off the world) and that kind of 'higher authority' might go a long way in adding the punch that this was justified in this case. And speaking about Starfleet and Picard's Report, I'm inclined to agree with Bunny that the God Race seemed to be indicating it was OK for the newly established Federation colony to stay. Bunny raises a great point though in asking SHOULD it be allowed to stay. This would be in Starfleet's hands to make the final decision on, though. Picard can, and I imagine would, submit his suggestions along with his official report, but then it became the final call of the paper pushers in charge to decide what to do. The ONE thing that bothers me about this episode -- and I'd be curious to hear other takes on this -- is: wasn't it a violation of the Prime Directive to beam down ANYWAY to make contact with these people? The Federation does not make First Contact with any races that don't have space flight -- while that rule may not be set in canon yet at THIS point, it was already being obeyed based on what we saw in TOS and other early TNG episodes. So why was contact made in the first place? Send down a secret party to observe and take notes, yes, but I think this world should have been left alone. Finally, I do agree with Bunny it adds a lot more 'oomf' and power to the story when Picard goes to another ship/station or beams down. One of the biggest complaints about TOS is how often Kirk put himself in danger with all of his missions, and it was not wise for the Captain of a ship to always expose themselves to that much danger. Kirk would always argue he wanted to share the risks with his crew, and I think that attitude was more common in the 23rd century Starfleet system. By NOW, though, it's recognized that Captains should be protected more, and Starfleet as a whole is more structured and organized then in the past, with more rules and being more enforced. The TOS period of the Federation felt more like the 'wild west', when the Federation was smaller, ships not as many, contact was harder to make and took longer distances, and many snap of the moment decisions were made which could lead to huge and galaxy changing events.

InfinitelyJesting

TNG starts hitting it's stride with this episode, IMO. Love Beverly. I saw a recent interview with her and she said there was tension because she felt her role early on was reduced to her saying, "Wesley!" over and over lol. But regardless, she'll always be the original and quintessential MILF to me.

William Terry

Ahhh the pain! They don't have a poverty row budget and have to use a bare bones set and matte paintings for scenery. They hired a lot of attractive actors and the speaking characters are endearing. I like Rivan and Liator and the episode gives them enough time to make an impact. The writing is meh. Nothing to say about Klingon lovemaking. I think it's just hyperbole. 🤔 the Edo people don't know if they are technically breaking the law until they arrest them. Maybe if they can i.d. the prohibited zone like that everyone in the other zones would feel they could get away with crimes that day. Also wasn't everyone in Wesley's group complicit? He wasn't the one who threw the ball right at the plant enclosure, everything else was behaving wrecklessly. It's great fun watching these episodes with bunny. I found Deanna Troi to be the most believable reaction when strangers want to get intimate with her as well as blatantly stealing her ex.

Mark Simon

The entire first season of TNG will always be a mixed bag, as will happen in the first season of any show that lasts. The actors were still finding their characters and how to stretch within the bounds of the infamous writer's bible that Roddenberry had set out at the start of this series. But this episode might be where they were starting to shake off some of the clunks that permeated a lot of the dialogue and other details in the earlier episodes. This episode does juggle a lot of narrative balls in the air: a contemplation on capital punishment and what does it mean to carry it to such an extreme application; what does it mean when a strict reading of the Prime Directive would call for any member of an away team to die because of an unwitting mishap; and how lightly should Starfleet tread when there are beings demonstrably more powerful? For the most part, 'Justice' is able to handle things smoothly by dividing up the main cast to take on different tasks. The most notable thing about this episode, for me, has always been that they finally figured out that instead of having Wesley Crusher always be the wunderkind who figures out how to save the day at the end of every episode, here Wesley is shown a lot more honestly. Wesley actually is a bumbling kid who sets the plot in motion through what would seem a simple accident, and is basically relegated to the background for the rest of the episode as the rest of the main cast figures out how to rescue him. Gates McFadden's portrayal as his mother Doctor Beverly is absolutely spot-on, maternal instincts justifiably ramped to 11 as the very idea of her son being put to death is an emotional knot that we the viewer get to see tighten as things progress. It all comes together nicely in this episode, and it was a favorite of mine for repeat viewing back in those early days. I love seeing you experience all of this for the first time, Bunny. Your reactions and assessments are so honest, and it's almost like getting to experience it all again for the first time. Can't wait to see more of your journey.

Bret Kay

I enjoy this one too (I enjoy all of TNG lol). I think at the end when Picard asks if they should remove the colonists on the other planet, he takes the Edo God turning bright and then vanishing as a sign to remove them. At least it seemed like it from Picard's dialog. Definitely with you on this one - err on the side of caution and not making that thing mad!

Max

This "justice" is what happens to groupthink societies who've abandoned their "critical thinking" brain muscles :(

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

Ahh the “Planet of the Hotties” episode. I always liked this one, and not just for the eye candy. It’s one of the better explorations of the conundrums the Prime Directice can create. It’s a little weird, since they are clearly a pre-warp species, so you’d think they would avoid contact altogether. But I suppose you could say maybe their communication tech was advanced enough that thet already knew about the federation even if they didn’t have interstellar flight. Still a little iffy that you’d consider shore leave there. Also, I always wondered how this culture deals with, say, 6 year olds. If you execute every little kid who breaks the rules you aren’t gonna have a civilization for long! We get to see Picard’s proficiency with the “righteous speech” which is basically his superpower (even more so than Kirk), which is always fun. I always took the godthingy disappearing at the end as an implied “meh, do whatever you want as long as you leave my people alone” kind of thing. But yeah, Bunny, I never considred it but how comfortable could anybody at the colony be knowing you have a giant ultra powerful neighbor whose motives are inscrutable and won’t talk to you. Even if the Federation doesn’t shut down the colony I for one ain’t sticking around. All in all a good episode, despite a few head scratchers. Certainly one of the better season one episodes.

Mark Chrisco

Gene Roddenberry was never a prude

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You mean you don't openly hug your fellows on a daily basis? What ever happened to good old fashioned sense of community?

Carlos Stevens

...How many episodes... Until you stop tearing up... I'm guessing it will be on the order of 30 episodes. That's what it was for me.

뱀파이안젤

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Carlos Stevens

Ok Bunny... I'm struggling to not write a spoiler. I think I can say without spoiling anything... After rewatching this episode for the first time... there was a lot more character development that occurred than I remembered.

Carlos Stevens

Sigh... ok this is not a spoiler... The WORST that could have happened to Captain Kirk when he (on many occasions) violated the prime directive is... he could have gotten busted down from a Captain to an Ensign. He was lucky to ONLY get busted down from an Admiral to a Captain after that whole Search For Spock incident.

William Terry

Interesting that Wesley is the only Star Trek character who has a warrant out for their arrest. Liator has a great sarcastic line at the end showing he still has issues. The only other one I can remember is Kirk and Trelayne, but that trial was scrubbed, so no warrant.

William Terry

I think Captain Kirk could have gotten a dishonorable discharge and sent to break rocks at Fort Leavenworth. Or more likely reeducation.

John DiGiantomasso

I think Picard missed his logical argument to the god-thing. "Just as you protect your children below from unnecessary harm, so do we. You must understand our commitment to protect our child as you do yours."

Matthew Graves (Graviton)

There’s also a sharp criticism of societal stagnation and unhealthy devotion to the past. The situation and justice clearly called for an reception to the rules but the natives repeated clearly say they won’t adapt or progress because “it’s always been this way since ancient times”

bunnytails

I'll second the call for making holodecks a reality!

bunnytails

I've been trying to walk more! Maybe jogging would be good to try as well!

bunnytails

My husband, yes. But not strangers. That's also a good way for a man to get a quick trip to HR and a sexual assault charge.

bunnytails

Hmm. Yeah maybe. I wish it was more clear.

bunnytails

You're right. We are seeing a different side to Wesley here, and I didn't think about it that way at first.

George Taylor

I have been walking for more than 10 years. I walk 2-4 miles a day and my health is very good. Do the walking instead of the running. It's better for the knees especially as we get older.

Mark Gosine

Indeed. Up until about 5 years ago I ran marathons and half marathons. My knees won't tolerate that anymore. I do walk 3x a week for 2 miles each time. Works wonders; with an additional 3x a week lifting and crunches.

Mark Gosine

Moral for this episode. The enterprise crew needs more hugs. Especially, the uptight Picard. Yes, a good episode. I think I could tolerate living there.

timothy w moyer

I just re watched for the first time in years. I forgot about the G.O.D. in orbit. I only remembered the hotties and that Yar's smiley hug. Picard at the end " Justice cannot be Absolute. A rule book with no flexibility". I tend to forget there are places one should NOT go.

belisar6

Well, I'm a month behind, but I always thought that Picard interpreted the answer to his question regarding removing the colony as being "Yes, remove them!" He asked the "God" vessel for a sign, and they responded by fading out. Meaning that the fading out itself was the sign. Picard then said he'd hoped for more of a response, and Riker replied that he thought it was appropriate... "Short and sweet... Godlike" At least that was my takeaway.

bunnytails

It seems 50/50 whether people interpret it as "yes, take them" or "I don't care, do what you wish"