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Lost hip hop commentary video (Patreon)

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2025-07-27 16:35:46
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2026-06

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I was supposed to release this video this past weekend but I ended up having conversation with The Company Man that made me not want to put this out fully (i'll still use some parts of it probably) cause i have more thoughts now. But i figured it'd be dope to let yall see it anyway.

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That Lana Lady

I do believe the people making music right now would tell you they can’t spend two years cooking. And the world is making content and thats a 24/7 grind. I also believe the people who are grinding away in the dark for years on their art will eventually make a big splash with something fresh, then burn out. I had the inverse feeling about Tylers latest album versus the last. Don’t tap the glass (after a single listen to the full album) feels like the lesser-than left overs, as if Chromakopia was the “one for me” and DTTG is the “one for them”.

That Lana Lady

One more thought, Lil Simz is young and up-coming, even though her follow-up was not as catchy as her debut album. As a femme who wants music more than T and A, I am so GREATFUL for Lil Simz and the bridge she makes to our Nigerian roots.

Arctic Goddess

As a 52 year old, I love the Clipse' new album. I don't recall a 'comeback album' in any genre that rivals what they originally popped off with. Not to mention show age and growth, and yet appeal to a significant number of under 30s. It's interesting that you mentioned Malice being the highlight of the project - as much as I love Push, his writing is astonishing on it. I have watched every reaction video I can find, down to one's with only a few subscribers 😅 and what's fascinating is watching his lyrics specifically, hit youngin's like a MTBTTF. 😅 It makes me hope that other young Pharrells and lyricists see a future where they can fuse the current 'vibe' theme of younger artists yet hold fast to having a good pen. I see Ray Vaughn in this camp potentially, but again, he's over 30. (so is Travis Scott at 34, but I don't consider him hh. 😒) Great video

Rblast

Doechii is currently doing that process of making an album rn. Edit: I do think you need to listen to THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE DOLLAR MENU by Ray Vaughn.

Rblast

He’s 29 but still fair

eleord

Yeah, she talked in the ABNH press run that she felt better abt making an album as a whole body of work and the way to tell a story through that type of project

Rblast

To me his video here is a sign that hip hop is the best place rn which is the sorting things out area where people are currently in the process of figuring shit out.

eleord

This might be an insanely long comment, so feel free to disregard. I'll say up top that I'm a ride-or-die for Meg and as such have fallen in love w Glorilla, I was a big fan of Latto's debut project (but not really her later work, we'll get to that), and I had a deep love for but yet more mixed feelings about Doechi's project last summer. On the other hand, my first love in music is really Pink Floyd (can't tell you how happy it made me to hear you connect the yachty album to dsotm bc yeah, that's a big reason I love that yachty album too). I love the new clipse and tyler albums both, i have love for j cole, kendrick, yadayada. I think a fundamental problem w the non-clickbait hiphop media (I'm thinking you FD, ebro, radio shows, interviews, vibevilla/shawncee type reactors etc) is that I don't think the music that the women make is... really... for you guys. Not to say you can't enjoy it, or you can't understand the artistry of it, BUT to say that the main reason people like to spend time digging into, appreciating, and ultimately coming up w useful and uplifting critiques of an album or an artist is bc there is something deep in the music that makes you want to keep playing an album front to back, looking for and dissecting what's giving you that feeling. if its not for you.. you dont get the feeling.. you dont do that.. your critiques arent that helpful. W the men in hiphop, I see people unpacking themes and bars and layers that reveal over the course of multiple listens, but I don't think I've ever seen someone in rap media sit w a project from Meg or Glo like that, the response, if there is one, mainly being like "yeah thats cool im sure itll be a big hit" and then they move on, assuming that the surface is kinda all there is to it at best, at worst -- well, that can get pretty ugly too I also want to caveat a bit and say that, as albums, i think its cool/ok to have stuff that doesn't work -- arguably theres a song on the clipse album that doesnt quite work, and in listening to music across genres my impression is that having an album that is completely artistically coherent is very hard (esp when theres pressure to produce pop hits) and the concept album is a next tier of difficulty on top of that w that said, I can go thru meg albums, and glo albums, and unpack and give lots of love where I feel it's due and critique where I think it could be better. i can do that bc ive listened to those albums obsessively, w there being meg albums that have literally altered the course of my life. however, I get really disappointed in the rap media i follow when they all only mention the ladies in passing, give softball interview questions, or prefer to focus on the drama around their persona, bc the drama is what generates clicks -- admittedly, thats what the hiphop media audience is looking for in re the women bc often the hiphop media audience isnt really there for the art these women make either, but it should be the critics job to help educate and uplift the audience to these artists, not just pander to the audience's desires. what's funny is i have exactly the same critique of meg that you do -- i would love to see her make a really solid concept album, or even just a more artistically elevated album than what she's put out so far. i know she had the ability to do so, and altho i'll love whatever she gives, i would really especially like to see that however, i don't think thats something meg, glo, or latto are being supported in the way they could be by the hiphop media landscape, even when that landscape in general is not actively tearing them down (which... yikes). when meg put out good news, she talked in the press abt it being something she was really proud of bc she got to sit and think abt it, but in scouring for reviews/media abt it, most of it was not very in depth, and the stuff that was more detailed was pretty harsh. glo has talked abt loving criticism, but i dont see critics celebrating what she's giving and then offering criticism that would push her forward on an artistic level. when latto did press for her new album she talked abt wanting it to be interpreted as a BODY of work, and mainly got headnods abt yeah thats what you're supposed to say, but i didnt hear many ppl dissecting like okay this works and this doesnt. doechi got ONE INTERVIEW that went thru the album on an artistic level, and it wasnt an interview w someone in hiphop media. obv it could be im missing stuff but thats how it seems to me. In conclusion, i think the demographics of the reviewers here matter a lot. Meg speaks to me in a way that clipse, as much as i can recognize what they're saying, just doesn't. but i think in hip hop media, as w many disciplines, entry into the field is gate kept by ppl in the field or even the ppl most used to engaging w the field, and those ppl judge based off of their knowledge and tastes, which are calibrated to a certain (male) sound. on the other hand, meg got famous bc she blew up on socials, kinda blowing past the gatekeepers. im saying that the media landscape has not evolved to be able to keep up w, show the right amts of love to, and properly support the women artists to really grow through their career, even though that seems to be something the artists themselves keep trying to ask for. idk what these artists lives are like behind the scenes, but, for example, ive heard that lady gaga felt pretty iced out by other women in pop, eventually making friends only elton john. it seems like latto, glo, meg, flomilli, and others are able to have fun together, but latto has talked abt having deeply uncomfortable interactions w men in hiphop, basically asking her for sexual favors for a verse, and it really making her afraid of working w men. meg had the incident w TL and the fallout from that which split ppl in hiphop, glo seems like she could and would take someone out.. but the point is that it's extremely possible that, altho idk for sure, this group of artists really isnt getting artistic help/support from anyone but each other, adding to the lack of development. i could go on and talk abt how this really mirrors and tracks my own experience as a gender minority in math research. but maybe thats me projecting and this is long enough.

eleord

pls feel free to ignore, esp if im mentioning things regarding why you didnt put it out in the first place etc. im just really passionate abt exactly this lmao

fdsignifier

Gonna incorporate some of this into the version of this that happens later

Asher Dorshimer

I think the concept of albums have been dying out, Now it’s a collection of songs that they hope a couple songs might break out on the chart and can be a single. Newer artists aren’t making singular albums, just singles, so they won’t put that much thought and effort into crafting a coherent album.

ekeama goddard

I do not have any idea why FD didn't publish this but I have to say that your take on this is interesting and (to my experience) unusual....... and I kind of agree. I think you are pointing to how the gendered ideas of hip hop "gatekeepers" affect how they engage with work by female hip hop artists. It is as if, under it all, female artists are perpetually treated as not worthy of artistic engagement, even when, as you point out, they request artistic critique. And I cannot help but see this as an example of how the US music industry treats female musicians. Their contributions are seldom framed in terms of the artistic impact of their body of work, unless they are overtly seen as "artistic" and/ or enter the music scene via another big artist (think Erika Badu, Solange Knowles, Janelle Monae,etc.). This is all to say that I think you are right to point out how media discourse fails to engage with/see female musicians as artistic talents. Anyway, that's my two cents.

eleord

Yes! I want to add as well that I have often seen what looks like actual discomfort from men in hip hop media when the female artists ARE brought up or come in for interviews. I definitely agree that there's a gendered dismissal of the artistry, and obv that's a huge problem, but even before that, I think men who participate in critical media show a reticence to engage w the women that often seems rooted in their personal discomfort w what the women bring to the table -- sometimes just the fact that they're women, lol -- which then becomes a reason to completely pass over any discussion of the artistry. I do want to shout out Shawn Cee's review of Fever, where he's able to engage w the energy Meg is bringing in a positive way! Mostly tho, I get tired of interviewers and critics needing to address the insecurities/discomforts Meg's lyrics might bring out in them through pretty asinine commentary, which is esp frustrating bc from actually listening to what she says in interviews it's clear that not everything she raps abt should be taken at face value..... just like..... w any male artist who puts on a persona or exaggerates certain aspects of themselves for effect. It's almost comical, but I have literally seen a woman in hip hop media bring up a Meg song in an appreciative way, only to get what she was saying shut down by her male colleague bc he was grossed out by the exact thing the woman was trying to show appreciation for.

eleord

Finally, I want to shout out the book "Beyoncé in Formation: Remixing Black Feminism" which I read right around the time I was really getting into Megan's music and which helped me unpack and deal w a lot of my own internalized misogyny that was preventing me from fully letting myself love the music. The book discusses how, historically and in the present day, (Black) feminine presentations and the art created from/about such are written off as somehow intrinsically lesser than art from more masculine perspectives, and how that, at root, is a dismissal that the people who enjoy and find themselves in exploring feminine presentations/aesthetics must be less skilled, less serious, and less valuable. I can't speak for anyone else's experience, but I wouldn't be surprised if the fans of these women have their internalized misogyny reinforced by the way the artists are treated in the critical landscape, which makes it difficult for them to speak up for these artists and talk about why their art matters so much to them. I know it was hard for me to get over the feeling that while I can be a fan of Meg, I must always agree w the men that, of course, Meg's art is less worthy of serious time and attention than these other "higher level" (male) artists, even when those other artists don't speak to me the way that Meg does. I did say that this was something I was very passionate abt, so, there you go.

Levert Caldwell

I directly related to that first song on Clipse’ new album. I literally had to replay that due to losing my father last year. That stuff(trust me) sticks with you and the world is never the same. But this new album is a banger, plus I’m also feeling a good throwback concept is Raekwon’s new album.

AlShan Barnett

Listen—people be askin' me all the time "Yo Mos, what's gettin' ready to happen with hip-hop?" (Where do you think hip-hop is goin'?) I tell em, "You know what's gonna happen with hip-hop? Whatever's happening with us" If we smoked out, hip-hop is gonna be smoked out If we doin' alright, hip-hop is gonna be doin' alright People talk about hip-hop like it's some giant livin' in the hillside Comin' down to visit the townspeople We are hip-hop Me, you, everybody, we are hip-hop So hip-hop is going where we going So the next time you ask yourself where hip-hop is going Ask yourself: where am I going? How am I doing? You’re doing the work, having the convo, Justin, The Professor, Curtis King, Scru, DJ Hed & Gina, Toure and Green many others. I’m going to lend my voice more and speak up more. I started a podcast with a friend of mine to focus on the 5 pillars. I wanted to interview the Ray Vaughns, Coast Contras & reach back to the Walés, KRITs, Ransoms. It is called The Say No More Podcast and my boy lost that creative drive and spirit. I tried to keep it up myself but it hurt to see my friend fall out of love with Hip-Hop. It’s hard even as big as Joe and Charlemagne are to compete with the streamers. It’s a disgrace for yall not be on that list but it is Complex, let’s not forget. Money has been at the forefront which is why we don’t have many MC/Rappers that you see with no jewelry. Look at Jim Jones look vs the Clipse, ten chains on the neck vs one solid piece. All the younger ones have all this jewelry on and we saw no rise, no story to how you got that, you came in the game iced. No hunger like DMX with a dog collar chain, even the name Dark Man X. There’s rappers with names like dghjk.$$$ and they have nothing to say that you want to hear or listen to. I don’t want to know what Hip-Hop will look like in another 50. I was born in ‘83 and I memorized Beat Street as a kid. I’m okay with who we hold dear, look forward to convos with people like yall and I’m okay with watching the party die. All good things come to an end, from one ol’ head with loccs to another 🫡💯 Thank you for all you do. ✌🏾

KAL BLACK

Not sure if this is a hot take but I think hip hop turning 50 is the beginning of the end. The next generation of young kids will eventually accidentally discover a new genre and rap/hip hop will become more niche

Eric Washington

“Content vs. Art” is the perfect way to describe our current conundrum.