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White rapper paradox snippet (Patreon)

Published:
2023-12-15 17:31:52
Imported:
2026-06

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Nyx, the Deity of the Night

Can't wait for the full thing, it sounds great already! This specific topic really interests me so I'd love to hear more of your perspective

Brian Wendt

I don't know much about rap or its history. I'm curious if Eminem was really doing anything that unique with his first couple albums or not. From my perspective around 1999 (I was 10 and am white) rap wasn't really entering my sphere. Then suddenly Eminem was playing on stations I listened to that otherwise played alt-rock. A few years later his music videos felt like 20% of MTV's airtime. Kids I knew (almost exclusively white) listened to Eminem. But no one around me was listening to any other rap. I saw 8 Mile in theater. To me, it was like Eminem was deemed acceptable rap by white people... besides some of the religious people who were pushing against all rap. Did he do something different with his music that stood out to earn that sort of distribution, or was it more just that he did the Elvis thing?

Blue Sidra

As German, I’m so happy America hasn’t yet got its grubby little fingers on our food and made an American version of it! Also, Eminem? Who’s that? The most influential white rapper has to be Vanilla Ice!

Stan Ferguson

German food, in my experience at the Red Lion bar in LA, is a variety of bland sausages.

Nast

What a tease! Love it! Looking forward to watching the full thing.

The Alchemist

this is boutta be a generational video

Marq

I've never heard that Snow rapper parody before. I– 🤣🤣🤣 Looking forward to the full thing

L C

Man I hope this is going to be 3 hours long! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Kris Blindert

Looking great so far, excited for the full thing

noble whitney

It’s crazy this came out today. Me and my homeboy were talking about how low we were introduced to good hiphop from our white friends. Hiphop was robbed once it went to the mainstream radio

commulism

I don't know how well organized this thought it going to come out, but this snippet has got me thinking about my whiteness as it relates to my earliest exposure to rap, that Eminem is definitely the first rap I heard growing up, and how it relates to the "White savior of rap" trope and how rap is consumed by other white people generally. Particularly with the "White savior of rap trope", Eminem functions as a kind of distillation of his particular influences in rap that gets repackaged into a more broadly consumable whiteness for which a white audience will begin to associate with rap broadly. To a white kid like myself in the early 2000s, Eminem is rap and any deviation from the expectations that come with that is a sign of rap needing to be saved. There's also a kind of weird messiah complex in thinking that rap is something that needs saving, it's like they think "Rock's dead, Rap's dying, and I'm White Jesus here to save the day". This messiah complex also has an uncanny parallel to a kind of colonial stewardship narrative but instead of countries and continents it's genres of music. I guess that's the end of that ramble that's probably just reiterating shit you and other people have said

Connor Kelly-Eiding

German food is to sour what the global majority's food is to spicy

Nelson Mercer

As a white guy who wants to rap more than pretty much anything else.. yeah I've been looking forward to this.

Nelson Mercer

Was anybody else surprised that Jim Carrey could rap that fast?

Courtney Bryant

Looking back now, Jim Carrey was actually pretty good and spot on when he was doing his White Rapper impersonations. Check out his Vanilla Ice impersonation if you haven't seen it.

Jeff G

I can't believe FD overlooked LORDZ OF BROOKLYN who tried to dodge the paradox by leveraging their italian heritage via some goofy A Bronx Tale energy. I think I was handed this CD outside of a Rahzel show in like 1999: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Du9SLha_Y

Andrius Kelly

FD - FYI you plugged your patreon in the YouTube video but there's no link to it the description.

Levert Caldwell

Just enjoyed your follow up discussion with Anthony Fantano. I would’ve just loved to hear you have another follow up convo with the guys over at DEHH. (Dead End Hip Hop), especially since they’re also in ATL.

Job Qpid

I’m working on a Mix recording featuring all White rappers. Many of which you mentioned F.D. I’ve already played the set for a live, mostly White audience up here in Northern Canada. The reaction was quite telling. Many didn’t even notice but loved it. If they did notice, the came up to me to “give me props”. My hands got shook, a lot. I met so many versions of “Jesse Bruce Pinkman”. I’ll share the link to the Mix once it’s done. Aim true.