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What the hell was that episode...

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Darrell Palmer

That episode was the true start of Buffy as we know it. That was the episode that first shows what this series is truly capable of and what it would strive for on a regular basis going forward. From here on, this series will exercise complete control over your emotions and play you like a violin. You are going to cry and laugh and cheer and weep for more. NOW STRAP IN AND ENJOY THE RIDE 😎

Denni Caid

This episode is amazing and gut-wrenching and oh man do I want to give you a hug right now.

Darrell Palmer

Go ahead and cry. We all do. Mourn the loss of Jenny as you are among friends who also grieve for her death. We will all miss her and cry for her every time we watch this episode. Going forward you are going to care about these characters a lot. You are going to go through a lot with them. These are young people who have a lot of choices to make over the next 5 seasons and choices have consequences. This show loves to explore consequences. We aren’t going to tell you what’s coming. There are going to be laughs and there are going to be tears. My best spoiler free advice is to always have a box of tissues handy just in case.

Allan Cornett

You say you don’t know what you just watched. The first GREAT episode of Buffy. Many more to come.

x_Rhi_x

Oh your sad-face kills me 😭 also I totally agree with buffy clearly feeling huge amounts of guilt. Not just about angel turning to angelus, but I think also because she ended on negative terms with jenny. She never had chance to make up or forgive 😕

Briony Addey

I think she'd started to forgive her- I think that was implied in 'keep it up', and in giving Jenny tacit permission to get back together with Giles. Not to say she won't feel unwarranted guilt about not getting there faster.

zerofk

A different show might've made Jenny's death more dramatic: big swelling music, slow motion shot of her falling down, having one of the main characters find her body, ... Instead we get an unceremonious death followed immediately by a lighter scene - a filler scene even, something that is not really important with Willow giving Giles the book. This gives the viewer time to absorb the shock. Then another scene that's a bit more important, and only then we go back to the heartbreak turned up all the way this time. It's masterfully done to play with our emotions. This is a big part of why the show is still beloved over 20 years later.

Roger Lackman

I don't know about that! You're ignoring both prophecy girl and innocence when you sat that.

Allan Cornett

I’ll agree those episodes were ones that made BTVS a fan favorite. I love both of them.

Jezzer

I knew this episode was coming, and was like, "Our sweet boy is going to be scarred for life."

UTU49

Hi Dodo, Welcome to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Episodes 16 and 17 are a pretty incredible demonstration of the contrasts on this show. No previous episode has hurt and demoralized the characters as much as this one. I think I’ve watched too many reactors watch this one now. What Angel did to Jenny and to Giles is one of the sickest things I have ever seen a fictional character do. He arranged all those candles and roses with the same care that someone would have if they had done it lovingly. Angelus is no ordinary villain. And Buffy is no ordinary TV series. It’s not for everyone. For me this episode is just as much about the developing relationship between Buffy and Giles. It has grown so much since the beginning. “Are you trying to get yourself killed?! You can’t leave me. I can’t do this alone.” I don’t think I have ever been able to type those words without tearing up.

Darrell Palmer

As great as those other episodes were, this episode just takes things to a new level and is my favorite episode up to this point in the series.

dodoreactions

Yeah, and I thought to myself "thanks for the warning, everyone". But then I thought "ok, but then I would have been spoilered", so I guess it's a good thing I didn't anticipate the breaking of my heart 😅😥

dodoreactions

You guys are right. I didn't think about Buffy blaming herself for not reconciling with Jenny. That makes everything worse in retrospect. 😭 The age old lesson: don't be mad at someone for too long. You never know how long they' re going to be around 🥺

UTU49

I hate not being able to warn reactors when we get to 2x17. When I introduced some of my favorite shows to friends, I would occasionally give them a little heads up and say something like, "Okay, this episode is a little rough on the characters." In that case, however, I am one person and they are one person and nothing I say affects anyone else. They are free to request less of a warning (or more of a warning). When it comes to reactors, I feel that no one of us has the right to make that decision for the whole watching community. I would gladly give you any kinds of warnings you would like... if I felt it was the right thing for the community.

cruzinbosco

Watching you react to this broke my heart. It's a hard one-the first hard episode to watch-but like you said I still think it's one of the best of the season, and I often compare other series villains to Angelus in this episode. It may have been a heartbreak, but it was perfectly monstrous and that's definitely what I want from a villain. Most shows are afraid to go there, but not this one. I was 8 years old when this aired and it was the first shocking fictionalized moment I remember. I grew up on soap operas and dramas so even at a young age, I was used to some crazy storylines but I had never had a show kill off a nearly main character, let alone one that I loved and so... abruptly. It was a tough blow and 23 years later, it still sends shivers down my spine.