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Buffy The Vampire Slayer 2x16 - "Bewitched, Bothered And Bewildered" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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2021-08-22 05:02:00
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So much Love ❤️💙💛

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Michael Short
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I agree. Even Harry Potter which was made well after this has love potions in it. Although they were used against males which wasn't seen as much of a problem until more recently.

Darrell Palmer

I’ve always enjoyed this one. Great to see Amy again.

Darrell Palmer

When this episode was made, the idea of a love spell had been part of the popular culture for at least a hundred years. Equating it with mind control was not really a thing. This episode just seems to be a fun throw away episode for Valentines Day and wasn’t meant to be examined too closely. Your mileage may vary. 🙂

Briony Addey

Totally agree about the premise of the episode, Dodo. You're right, a spell like this violates someone else's mind and agency, and takes away their ability to consent (or withhold it). Buffy understands it like this too (referring to it as 'the great roofie spirit', where roofie refer to rohypnol). It's absolutely not ok to see both Cordy (being flattered/touched that he was trying to control/violate her) and Buffy (praising him for not taking advantage of her) respond this way. The thing is, is that girls are often encouraged to see a guy's refusal to turn their misogyny towards them as romantic. When really they should be taught that kind of misogyny should be a major red flag and that misogyny, deep down, is by its very nature omnidirectional! Yuch. I don't think the tone (particularly the ending) matches the awfulness of Xander's behaviour.

UTU49

I love the depiction of chaos in this episode. I think the episode is hilarious. I thought it was an inspired choice to extend the spell to include Buffy's mom and Drusilla. This episode certainly has serious problems, though. I think it's safe to say that this is one of the few episodes that has aged extremely poorly. Our ideas of consent have changed drastically over the last 40 years, and this episode failed to be ahead of the curve.

EDDS

While today the theme of the episode would be very troublesome, at the time love spells were a common trope in media with not too much thought behind the implications. As progressive as the show is, it does still need to be given some slack now and again considering its age.

zerofk

I don't like this episode much. The message seems to be that taking away someone's free will is somehow romantic? There are some good bits of course. It's nice to see Amy again. Buffy turning into a rat is fun. Cordelia looks absolutely gorgeous in most of the scenes. And the fact that she's wearing the necklace is both adorable and sad. I do very much like Giles' speech that "it's not love, it's obsession. Selfish, banal obsession." I think it applies to A LOT of tv and movie "romances". I think about that quote a lot while watching shows or movies. And I like that Cordelia realised she shouldn't constantly try to please her friends. I just wish she'd have done so in a better episode.