Home
Creators
Search Recent Missing Random
Posts
Search DMs Popular Hash Lookup Tags Random
Importer
Import FAQ
Register Favorites Keys Review DMs Logout
Community
Telegram ThePornDude
Home Creators Posts Import Register Favorites Logout

Buffy The Vampire Slayer 3x17 - "Enemies" Full Reaction (Patreon)

Published:
2021-11-14 06:01:02
Imported:
2026-06
Tags:
haven't archived this post yet. have a subscription? use the importer!

Content

Link: https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZNL2F0ZsVrgVmfFne4CTwgS3DSh6LMGuqKy

AndrewEarly's Archive-LINK: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1JZZmJk8iyVHKbpu8Kxd7k2HRnNWvFO7E

Files

Previews only

Comments

x_Rhi_x

"i guess his voicer is sexier than Giles'....i mean.,...to cordelia!!" O.O XD your animations are so funny, Dodo! I love the parallel father-daughter bond between buffy and giles, and faith and the mayor. its like a haunting dark imitation

x_Rhi_x

oh also the no soul/love conundrum is a running theme in this show. You mention spike and dru...Joss has said that Spike was written differently. he's not like most vampires. and dru, i think he "loved" spike but then again was all over angel when he turned. and in the episode "lovers walk" she had left spike for a chaos demon. i dont think it's love in the same way for her, more just obsession or intense need, and lust

Jezzer
>>71787842

Yeah, because they don't have a soul, they experience the more negative forms of love: possessiveness, neediness, jealousy, etc. They don't have the capacity for selflessness and putting someone else's needs ahead of their own. I think the Mayor actually still has a soul at this point. When he said he sold his soul, it doesn't necessarily mean the entity he sold it to has claimed it yet. A lot of folklore around people selling their souls involves the payment coming due when they die.

Denni Caid

This episode is one of my season 3 favorites, specifically for that "Second best" moment of realization. It's even better on rewatch picking up the little details, like when Buffy figured out that Faith was up to something.

dodoreactions
>>71787682

Sometimes I have the urgent feeling to clarify such statements before someone concludes something wrong from it 🤣🤣🤣

Briony Addey

It's interesting going back to convos about Angel's responsibility for Angelus' actions. I noticed that when Faith draws a parallel between them, Angel rebuts it, but observing that the difference is that he never had a choice (because he, Angel, was not there when Angelus did all the stuff he did). The circumstances Faith refers to here about her childhood are so terribly sad. I think I understand way more how people get into situations like Faith has, where she's hurting other people so badly, now than I did when I first watched this show as it aired when I was in my late teens, when everything seemed more black and white. The kind of damage Faith already carries when she arrived in Sunnydale is the kind it takes a substantial chunk of a lifetime to unpick and heal from. Faith does have a choice. But her agency has been severely undermined by her experiences of neglect/abuse. She's not as responsible as someone who has more agency would be for the same act. The end of this episode, where the only person she has left is someone who threatened her so recently, and who she knows deep down doesn't give a shit, doesn't actually want the best for her is heartbreaking.

Flora Smith
>>71814449

Angel’s not directly responsible because Angelus is in control when his soul is out of play but the soul is the only canonical difference between Angel and Angelus. Angel remembers everything he does as Angelus, he’s still there (just as Angelus is still beneath the surface in Angel)

Midnight Crypt Worx

I loved the parallels with the father/daughter relationship between Buffy and Giles, and Faith and the Mayor. It's like Buffy/Giles are the good version and Faith/Mayor is the evil version. I think that's why the Mayor has such a hold on Faith, because of that tight relationship they have. Which in turn, can make Faith do his bidding. I think Faith just finally gave up on the good. She's been burned so much she has snapped unfortunately.

Flora Smith
>>71823796

Agreed. I think this ep also does a neat job of detailing how crucial the concept of identity is here. Faith comes from a shitty background. Finding out she was a slayer must’ve been one of the first (if only) times she truly felt special. But for months instead of being special she’s just been the ‘other’ slayer, very much second to Buffy (I love the Scoobs but they’re incredibly cliquey and I’m including Giles in that). IMO she leans so hard and fast into being the ‘bad slayer’ because while it’s not what she would’ve wanted otherwise, it at least provides her with an identity of her own. One she doesn’t have to share.

Briony Addey
>>71814449

Angelus remembers everything Angel did, because he's beneath the surface- in the body but not in control. But I don't think that's true the other way round. Angel gets access to the memories (and gets control) when his soul in summoned from the ether and channeled through the orb of thesulah and put back.

zerofk

There was a point where the mayor casually said to his assistant (the one who died) "I'd sell my soul for a good golf game" or something similar, and then followed it up with "but it's too late for that." So yes it is implied he doesn't have a soul.