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Michael Short

one of the hardest episodes to watch. I think what oz did is cheating, I can see your point if he only did it while he was a wolf, but he kissed her even before he turned into a wolf.

cruzinbosco

This episode is always a hard re-watch for me, but I do enjoy it because as you said "it's complicated", and I enjoy those kinds of storylines. Where it's not completely black and white. This is also an interesting episode as we see fears from episode 4, "Fear, Itself" coming true here. Oz's fear of losing control of his wolf side, of it being there all the time, of hurting Willow.

Soren Andersen

Its definitely complicated, but I think Oz's wolf side is a pretty clear metaphor for his id, and everyone who has ever cheated would probably claim that they "lost control" one way or the other, which in this case seems like a more plausible excuse but still..

Denni Caid

When Willow cries, we all cry. That's just how it is.

Thom Purdy

This happened because Seth Green wanted to go and do movies, which is why it seemed rushed! Just incase nobody has told you this before, always have tissues available. As Denni Caid said above, when Willow cries we all cry.

Midnight Crypt Worx

Yeah I totally get how you feel that Oz didn't cheat. But to me, it was cheating. I say this because he could've told someone about her before he "had" to lock her up with him. He had PLENTY of chances and by sound mind he knew what he was doing when he grab her and kissed her before becoming a wolf. In my opinion. Yes he blacks out when he's all wolfy, but he did a lot of stuff before that also that he could have stopped. We've seen him before right before he turns, he is of sound mind until it takes over. Honestly, because he slept with her, I say he did worse than Willow did. (shrugs)

Flora Smith

Yeah, he obviously can’t be held accountable for the first time but he then maneuvers things so they’re together the second night when he has other options and knows what will happen. He was profoundly attracted to her as Oz, you can’t blame it all on the wolf.

Eliza

I love the music too! the band THC might be hard to find, so include the title of their album Adagio if you ever want to hear them! Did you also notice their music being played in the nightclub on Angel?

zerofk

I'm glad you're not putting the blame squarely on Oz. Too many people do that in my opinion. He certainly made mistakes - he should really learn to ask for help and talk to his friends instead of wanting to handle everything himself, in secret. But yes it's complicated. And Willow's defence that what she did with Xander "doesn't compare" is total bullshit. She cheated, knowingly, and repeatedly, over a long time period. She didn't have sex but she still cheated. How far that physicality went is inconsequential. I'm also one of few people who actually like Veruca as a character. She embraces her wolf side completely. And she's very amoral - I'm not sad she's dead - but that doesn't mean I can't like her.