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Buffy The Vampire Slayer 6x19 - "Seeing Red" Full Reaction (Patreon)

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‼️I'm sorry guys, but unfortunately I received the info regarding the intro too late.‼️

‼️@Nikki Davis - Thank you for letting me know 😊💙‼️

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Midnight Crypt Worx

I know my total bad I was behind watching your reactions! It's ok you can go back and watch <3

Midnight Crypt Worx

Warren is just awful. So is Spike. Get ready for a ride with the end of Season 6, buckle up! <3 So excited!

CeNedra

Sorry Dodo, the unicorns and rainbows just left the building 😭 Tara and Warren in rl were a couple for about 8 years so I'm guessing the actor is a good guy 😱 Also James Marsters really struggled with the bathroom scene and always had in future contracts that he wouldn't do it again!

Melissa Amato

First, James M. Doesn't suck, he was actually forced into that scene with Sarah, who actually had to help him with that scene all the Fangdom despises. It took poor James a long while to recover from that terrifying scene... He became physically ill, & the Crew had to get Medical help for him, after pounding his head helplessly into the floor. James stated, he wanted to escape thru it. He was messed up, after. This was Whedon's brain child, (doing, ) with threatening his Cast members, with liabilities if they didn't preform according to & follow through on script. & those who don't know better can only watch & get furious at the poor Actors. James Speculated his fan (dumb ) would deplete, after Seeing Red litterally killed all his Characters growth had shown & became a favorite persona, for the fan dom to appreciate, & understand. Basically he became too adored, so Whedon found a cruel way to destroy our belief & love for our favorite lovably messed up, yet endearing Vampyer Character. Because mainly: Contractual obligation, made it hard for the Actors to say No, to many of the Writers whims. & The script idea was actually twisted around to make the attacker Male instead that it was indeed, a female who attacked a Male ex in the real life telling, a different perspective, of what was created unfortunately for Spike & Buffy. James hated scenes that depict anyone being Ra** !! Or Tortured, it was his line in the concrete. Whedon however saw a loop hole around the Actors resolve, by instead offering to fire him, if the poor Actor didn't comply, with Networking rules & regs that were not put into practice yet. & The change over from kid caring WB. To what saved Buffy from the WB aXe. UPN had different guild lines, & practices more Adult themes to the extreme, as everyone can see, the Writers & Crew took advantage of the opportunity to make Buffy grow up fast & furious. Series 6 was filled with over whelming subject matter. Each season had a theme, but 6 was always a time that both Cast & Crew were dropped into Their own Hell mouth, James along with Sarah & the Very built up, & Adorded Character Tara, as well as Addam Busch who played Warren. All created by Whedon to make the fan( dumb) Fall for his trap, not even the Actors fore saw. The first time a Buffy fan sees Season 6 We all get a warning from Whedon, but being faithful to Characters we become familiar with over time & really believe that tropes, & charismatic role models we come to idolize, we can't help but become obsessed, & enjoy their life & times. Buffy is an example of our swift devotion, yet we need to realize the real life reason for some of the under pinnings, of Network ratings, Buffy had hit a pinnacle of adoration, still is, but as a true fan we should & sometimes have to take the good with the worst... That said Nicky & Ally were also a part of the emotional strains to be as their Ring Master, or Master Manipulator Whedon & Co. Puppet's to bring in big ratings, Ally now had to go through Willow's breaking point. The youngest Actress who played Dawn, was kept away from Whedon, due to his more hidden adoration of the Actresses, well he wasn't to be trusted. The Gay aspect of the loving Willow & Tara device worked amazing wonders for both Characters. It appeared to most of the Fandom that Willow is Bi sexual & that Tara was a Lesbian. Because Willow definitely had a loving relationship with Seth Greens lovably protective, understanding OZz, a male Guitarist, who's dry delivery stoicism, Witt, & smooth talking, yeah I miss OZz But Tara was a great mystery, too. We met her after Ozz takes his exit, out of Buffy & Ally is left again alone, misunderstood & even slipped somewhat under the sets floor boards till needed. Nicky & Emma had to follow along, while JM. & Sarah had to go through hoops & often asked to perform naked, Sarah specified early that she wouldn't go any farther then expose her shoulder's, & even would tease JM. With her winter wear. When JM. Had to strip everything off, to make up for her refusing, to bare more for the scene, then she was willing to. Come time for Seeing Red a shockingly desturbing shoot daze. In fact soon to be un fore seen Fandom favorite floppy eared comedic relief after everything Spike had done, send in the lovable Demon Spike's misunderstood but not stupid bud Clem, along with the Crypt warming Hot buffalo wings, (not Kittens, thank you) A real bud Spike can turn to, just before he disappears into the night. ? The Writers found necessary, to get James into play, the more sensitive opposite to what Spike's obsessed, & Mad, looking Character, he had become, in hopes to gain the Spike Fandom back... It cooled off attitudes, but forever splintered the Fandoms devotions, for his wrong turn. Spike had made the turn he had by JM trying to save his Character. Whedon attached him, & shouted at him. He threatened the young Actor & James' feared he would lose his job. He & his Wife just had a baby, & he needed money to support them, & Buffy was more than he hoped for, the dream job, no he loved the Theater, but he quickly learned he couldn't survive on Theater expenses, so he moved the family to California, & he landed an audition for the Show runners of a new series based on a horrible little flick, called Buffy. Whedon wanting to create the female role around the blonde teen girls who scream damsel in distress, in the Alley where the monsters eat her. He wanted of corse to change that . Male chauvinist view, to the Buffy we love today. Amber knew way ahead of schedule about the Crule plot that Whedon & Co. Had Created. She also knew Whedon had told her, that her Character would be built up, to create the reason sweet Willow, would go completely Dark... Warren becoming the inept Male Chauvinist thoughtless, screw up Geek, with a gun, the shots, from a carelessness, with a crule smile, & just two words before we see Tara unbelievably go down... & We all wanted to fling their remotes at the TV Screen, & cry, Whedon?! Understandable. Whedon wanted to not only destroy Character development he wanted to pulverize the faithful fandom that formed, who came to believe in it. & loved Buffy & her strange lil family. & the Scoobies ?? A messed up rag tag bunch. & Buffy & all of them hurt, Whedon was clearly satisfied. But please Dodo steer your anguish & anger towards those that deserve the blame for it. Joss Whedon & Buffy Writers They did everything to Buffy & her Scoobies. Not the Wonderful & just as disillusioned leading Cast. They alone created Warren, add Sympathetic Character Johnathan, whom is also the recognizable one of the 3 Stoodger's, Along with Toady Andrew (who's that whiney guy?) & The Domino effect that would follow thru our wonderful series, after the ineffectual meeting of the hapless minds, to take Sunnydale over, as true super Villains... This clearly seems to be the Seasonal joke, till the 2 idiots see Warren's greedy ambition, has no limits, & he takes Villain to a whole different level of real... Accused of R** the Comedy that once gave us a much needed break in between more serious tones, was now within questionable limits as Murder is now added to the Trios mythos... But the Character we grew to love, Spike, would take the Blame, for the Vampyer becoming thee fandom favorite, who was slowly taken apart all the way from season 5 & Built up again, only to have a thing with Buffy in season 6 as the bad boyfriend, in front of us, to now, agreeing, F** him, he Really is the Bad Boyfriend, Buffy begins to use, just to feel something real again, after coming back from the dead. Spike is rewritten as the thoughtless night crawling, creeping inside our Scycies, who now dangerously addicted to dreaming, & having the Slayer, so much that he can't understand the feeling's he has, his desperation sadly wins over his usual understanding for our hero, sore & battered Buffy. To the pointless obsessive conclusions. But the Writers actually thought, that because Buffy had super strength she could kick Spike off of her, What?! Didn't she get staked by a Vampyer once, Fool for love, hello? Bueler, James M. Knew this wasn't going to be good for the future of the Characters, it made him sick, Sarah & him are still really good friends. It can't be easy for them to had to have committed to that scene. But the Fandom should truly understand. Altho deep down we are all screaming with Buffy to (STOP!!) JUST IMAGINE JM. He was Mentally f*** up from that Scene. We all just want to WHEDON, YOU ARE DISGUSTING...❤️‍🩹🧟‍♂️🥀 Now just realize: THE POOR ACTORS OBLIGATED TO have actually had to act OUT THOSE SCENES, & thanks to Whedon WERE AS BROKEN, AS Buffy & Spike. We the fan dom can easily forget, maybe forgive, as far as human nature is concerned... But at the time, & after, no one knew what the Actors were really going thru We only witness helplessly, what Whedon & Co. devised. Not what the Actors Mentally, emotionally, & physically, had to truly endure. & Later be broken, & later abandoned. Our Idols Actors & musicians: Are the most Mentally Misunderstood, & broken of beings. & sometimes the loneliest. As the mask falls, & the glitter fails to sparkle, & our time passes into memory lost. The danse stop's So do we in silence do we take our last bows. As the Trixter winks, & a Caravan doth fade into the Morrow. Danke 🦤 Aveda Zane to thee Buffy verse Fangdom. We must Please blame the biggest monster of all, Whedon. 🧟‍♂️Grr UHHG!!🎬🥀 Blessings to all. 💖🌎🌍🌏💖🐶👩🏻‍🚀✨🎬🪄⭐😎⭐❤️ 🤕

x_Rhi_x
>>102239616

When did dodo say James Marsters sucks? He didn't say anything about the actor so I'm not sure why you're so vehemently defending him. It's not necessary

x_Rhi_x

This is a horrific episode. *that* scene was put in by whedon basically out of jealousy that the audience loved spike and he's meant to be a bad guy at the endnof the day. So whedon felt the need to "remind" the audience that spike is a soulless demon, not a broody love interest. However, there were so many other ways he couldve reminded the audience of that. This scene went way too far and is universally hated. Also I loved your "and then the unicorn got shot in the head" comment lmao!

Melissa Amato
>>102243635

What is it with you people. You actually assume I meant Dodo? I meant in general. Say you didn't happen to read my Entire rant did you? It's ok, I didn't expect that. I assume people don't really care. Just happen to trip over a small snippet of what I am hoping they will gain a new vision of. But no, sadly, & In JM's own words try reading the whole thing before ye judge, so harshly. 🤐🎬❤️‍🩹

Melissa Amato
>>102243635

Also I meant to have eyes open on the Very Actors who had to Act out that scene Mentally broken, from it. ❤️‍🩹

Melissa Amato

Well x Rhi x Why do you care what I think? Are you an Admin for Dodo? YOU COMPLETELY SURE YOU GOT THE RIGHT COMMENT? I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A UNICORN!! CHECK THE COMMENTS AGAIN. YOU GOT THE WRONG COMMENTOR!! STOP BOTHERING ME PLEASE. NEXT TIME READ THE WHOLE COMMENT. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ACTORS! & WHEDON THE REAL MONSTER BEHIND THE CAST CREW & STORY. 🥀🧟‍♂️🥀

Beny
>>102247262

Ffs get psychological help instead of having a meltdown over someone replying to your, at some points, incoherent rambling comments. Also the Unicorn line Rhi was referring to was something Dodo said at the end. She wasn´t even replying to you at that point but you still feel the need to have this meltdown and trying to create drama.

Beny

I absolutely hate that they killed Tara. It really feels like Whedon just wants to say F you to the fans sometimes. In the reunion a few years ago Amber Benson mentioned how they came to her at the end of season 5 saying they had "exciting news" for her character in season 6. And then they told her they would kill her off. Which is just... so incredibly tone deaf to deliver as "exciting" for the actor. So this was always the plan and it wasn´t because she wanted out. The writers just decided to do it.

x_Rhi_x
>>102247262

Sweetie....I was replying to dodo about his unicorn comment...and the rest of it as well. Wtf are you on?

Ray D

To be slightly fair to Spike, the Buffy/Spike sexual relations has always been an entanglement of sex and violence together. Just look at the first time they sleep together in Smashed. It starts off as a fight that then leads to sex. Also, they show many times during the season where Spike starts something sexual, Buffy protests and says no but then accepts and it turns into sex. So to spike, Buffy saying no hasn’t been the end of things in the past if he pushed a little bit more. Buffy’s depression and using of Spike just to feel something during the season has warped spikes thinking. In the end, spike is in the wrong here obviously. Buffy was clearly trying hard to make him stop and he pushed way to far. But I do think that the show has done a good job of showing us through the season why these two associate violence with sex and why what happened did end up happening despite how uncomfortable it is to watch.