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Anna is off to a great start with the girls!

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Leto Fregar

Tabitha words my thoughts quite well 😇👍

ender8343

Really, she expected girls to be easier?

punarotta

From one (non-magicuser) son to two daughters who know magic... Anna got burned in her relationship, so she scorches what her daughters had going :(

Spam_Happy

I don't think I understand Simon's comment about the timeloop. Surely the timeloop is initiated i the future not the past? Simon and Evan were sent back, not brought back. So the trigger point for the timeloop would be after the confrontation with the Shadowman. It doesn't mean that the Shadowman would have been the cause of the loop, but it doesn't rule it out either.

Spam_Happy

I've been thinking about this some more, and I think it's possible that Anna has been working with Nico the whole time and that a secondary goal if the plan was to give Anna control of Doros' cats. It would mean that Nico was lying about trying not to anger Anna and that their whole confrontation was staged, but I could believe he was cautious, or paranoid, enough to do that. If so, I badly misjudged Anna. She's clearly ruthless and thinks she knows what's best for everyone. But I didn't think she would murder people or let them die simply for her convenience. But I may have misread her anger at Doros' neglect of his cats. It might just be that she only really cares about the people she considers her own and doesn't like how Doros neglects his own servants.

Spam_Happy

I maintain my position that Anna is not over Gildamore.

Lurker

Yeah, but the barista was flirting with Debbie not David. He’ll just come off as some annoying bro that deserves a kick to the balls. Course, maybe that’s exactly why Anna encouraged him to go.

RobinHarper

So the way time travel works in the Robin Harper Universe is that you can't change the past. You can rewrite the present to make it appear that the past was different, but it doesn't actually alter the past. You can also "rewind" time like a VCR, but that simply moves time backwards and anyone with a lot of magical power would experience that rewind along with you. And then if you were to "travel to the past" you wouldn't travel to the past but instead a magically constructed replica of that moment, and anything you did there would have no impact on the present. So with time loops, the loop has to be conceived of before it can occur, and you can't 'travel' back before the idea for that particular time loop was thought about. Which in this case was Robin wanting a three-some for the Evan loop and Mira telling Nico that she was about to catch the Shadow man in Nico's loop. This is because the time-loop always happens and there is never a reality without it. They are fragile because they either happen or don't happen, and the person going through the loop is magically bound by the spell to act in a manner that maintains the loop. All of Simon's warnings about not breaking the loop happen because its the easiest way to get people to act in a manner to maintain a time loop and not ask questions that would have resulted in that loop never existing in the first place. Now, someone like Anna or Nico can still mess with the loop. And in Anna's case she changed the present so that Evelynn always existed. In the past there never actually was an Evelynn, but now everyone remembers future Evan as being Evelynn. Evan had his blurry moment in the last update because that was Anna duplicating him to send his copy into the past with Simon to maintain the loop. That copy becomes future Evan who then becomes Evelynn complete with her own fake history. Hopefully that all makes sense, and is also why I don't plan on doing another loop if I can help it.

Spam_Happy

I think that all makes sense and it actually fits with how I thought time loops worked, but I think I had been thrown off by people talking about timeloops and what I thought Anna was doing. You can't, strictly speaking, alter a time loop, but you can alter people's perceptions of it, such as duplicating Evan before he is sent back and then making everyone forget he had been sent. The point about needing an instigating thought to allow for a time loop is interesting. But I think it's a bit much to "blame" Robin's idle thoughts for creating the conditions to allow for the timeloop to occur. But I was forgetting that when he isn't panicking, Simon can be kind of a dick. An interesting implication of all of this is that Anna's changes are not quite as grandiose as they appear. She's not changing the past, she's changing people's appearance and memories, albeit on a large scale. I also think I know what she's up to now. In the long run, she can't stop Tabby and Robin from undoing her changes. But she can wipe her daughter's boyfriends memories of them and set them up with new partners, so that when the time comes Robin and Tabby can't undo the changes without messing up Dave and Evan's new lives.

RobinHarper

And I was fine with doing that to Tabby and Dave, since their relationship was more of a "friends with benefits" one, but I was very hesitant to do it to Robin and Evan, since the plan was to always have them as a couple. I hope to put them back together again, but I haven't decided on how and there's also the risk that the story might pull them in other directions.

RobinHarper

Except Dave can now change into Debbie as he pleases!

Spam_Happy

I basically agree, but I still kind of hope Dave and Tabby end up back together because I think they fit well and I think they would both be okay with non-monogamy. I can imagine a kind of "Toby's summer but more so" where Tabby goes through relationships with lots of different partners only to end up back with Dave in the end because he makes her feel safe.

Karissa Iraklidis

On one hand, I am glad I waited so long to read this, the past few days have been very entertaining. On the other hand, binge reading has spoiled me and now I have to suffer through the week Robin-less like everyone else.

Senko

For someone who's business is managing relationships Anna really doesn't understand how mismanaging her daughter's relationships isn't going to endear her to them.