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Africa, or not Africa... (Patreon)

Published:
2024-04-20 03:11:25
Imported:
2026-06

Poll

Africa, or not Africa...

  • Africa 21
  • Fictional island near Africa 5
  • Auroa 3
  • 2024-04-20
  • —2024-04-24
  • 29 votes
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Content

 So, lately something has happened... and I'm not sure how to go about it. Originally Max was in Africa, but then after a conversation, it had me wondering. Would that be a smart thing to do for the story. Because:

1. Africa is a real place, and I don't want to inadvertently give wrong impressions of it, or misrepresent Africa, nor do I want to give anyone any false impressions of Africa.

2. At the same time, I always put a disclaimer that the following is a work of fiction, and is intended for entertainment purposes only. Which should not be indicative of anything in real life.

However, I do believe in being responsible. But, I also want to hear from you all. So let me know what you all think.

Option 1 - Keep it in Africa, it's fine. We're telling a sexy time story.

Option 2 - Fictional Island near, or off the coast of Africa. So it kinda is, but not Africa.

Option 3 - Auroa, an established fictional archipelago from the video game, Ghost Recon Breakpoint. We can add on to it, an extra island where the tribes would be more akin to that of the Papuans.

Comments

Sajanto

While I definitely see your point that this is a delicate topic, I don't think you did anything questionable in that particular regard. Of course Africa is a real place, but it is also a huge continent with an even more huge variety in ethnicity, languages, local traditions etc. As long as you don't use real-existing tribes in your work (which you obviously did not) this is very clearly a fictional setting in a place that just happens to be in Africa by mere geographic attributes, but they don't particularly apply to any true Africans, let alone reperesent or even define them as a group of people. The actual problem here is that those complaining about what you did falsely assume that if you represent anything relating to Africa (something fictional on top of that), it automatically applies to ALL of Africa, even though the continent (yes, it's a continent, not a country and it currently consists of 54 different sovereign countries!) is by far the most ethnically diverse place in the world. So in conclusion, those who actually feel appauled and claim that you misrepresent Africa as a whole – THEY are the ignorant ones because they assume and proclaim that Africa is an homogenous place, which couldn't be further from the truth. A quick Google search of an ethnic map of Africa gives a pretty good impression on how diverse this continent actually is. In the end you already created a fictional place with a fictional setting and fictional things to happen in that setting, so nobody should feel offended by the mere fact that the location of the setting in on the continent of Africa – again, it would be different if you used a real-existing tribe or a specific ethnic group (of which there are hundreds upon hundreds in Africa), but you obviously didn't, so I don't see any point to change anything you created so far in that regard. I hope I could give you the feeling that you shouldn't be worried and if anyone tries to blame you for things like that, they should start reconsidering what they are actually saying, because they are essentially handing you UNO reverse cards on a silver platter for you to use against them. :P

Crossroads Radio
>>135722370

Thank you for the detailed response, it very much appreciated. Seriously, I enjoy engaging in conversations regarding topics as such. But yeah, I did that intentionally, just used Africa as a continent rather than a specific country, nor a specific region to keep the fictional tribe vague. Even the name, Majika, it stemmed from the word "Magic" and swapped the "c" for a "k," and added an "a" in the end. But then I was asked to stop using stereotypes to portray black people as "sex craved maniacs." So, myself and said individual had a conversation about it. He apologized for his comment, but also expressed his frustration in how many other artists tend to portray minorities as thugs, r'pists, and dumbasses. Which I respect his outlook and I can understand where he's coming from. So after further conversation, I reiterated how Coach is portrayed as the older doting "daddy" type, which I take inspiration on how I portray him from Ed Powers, a white guy who had the porn series Dirty Debutantes. Whereas Cole, his scene with Ellie, his skin tone wasn't even a factor in the video. He's just a solider in a settlement on liberty doing what I know I did when I was in the military while on liberty in a foreign port... smash with the local women. Now, I do admit, in the original version of BLACKED To The Max, Max was going to lose her virginity to some thugs. It's not my intention to portray black people as only being thugs. However, myself, I am a minority and I did grow up in my teenage years as a thug myself. I saw how innocent girls would get caught up hanging out with us, and they went from innocent and naive to a hoodrat skonka. So for that original concept, I was taking inspiration from my own personal experiences. But the fact does remain, for future projects, I definitely need to take into account how others may perceive my work. I may have to add extra disclaimers. But based on how the poll is going, I may only keep the reference to Africa in the very beginning, since I already saved the editing as such. But I there's a few lines in the editing I could take it out. Just have them say overseas instead of Africa I guess. But yeah, my first long video was Ellie (Adult version of course) with Sanchez, a Hispanic guy. I actually want to do more work where the dynamic of the women are with other races of men too. I don't want to solely be the BLACKED parody guy lol.

Sajanto
>>135722370

You're welcome, I'm always open for conversations like this on a respectful level. :) Funny enough, I kind of figured out that the ethymology of the fictional tribes name had somethign to do with magic from the get-go. :D As for the depiction of stereotypes: In general I agree that the stereotype of "sex-crazed maniacs" is kind of lame (and overused on top of that), so having the people involved be at least a little fleshed out is always a good thing – and since storytelling is a big part of your projects these fleshed-out characters feel a lot more convincing in your material than in most other people's I have seen so far. :) Also one more thing I like about the way you changed the setting of the "Blacked to the Max" project is the very fact that she isn't being gangbanged by stereotypical ganster thugs anymore as in the (now obsolete) "prototype version". The current setting feels a lot more wholesome and I'm all in for "kinky wholesome" stuff like this. :) In fact, the only gripe I had so far with your depictions was that Max had been called "bitch" and similar things over and over again by the guys at the photoshoot with the Chocolate Daddy (luckily NOT by the Chocolate Daddy himself – his demeanor was a lot more endearing) – and even moreso by the guys in the old gangbang version. This can in fact be considered a negative stereotype of being verbally abusive to women and this is rather off-setting (and off-turning) to me, so I was very happy with you switching up things and have the new male characters (Chocolate Daddy, Rey Hentai and most likely the tribesmen in the upcoming scene too) be more likeable personality-wise and be actual individual persons rather than overused (and questionable) copy-paste-stereotypes. :) So in the end I'm very happy with the way you're going right now and I can't wait for your work to be continued shortly. :) Of course, take all the time you need for it to become as well-crafted as possible, but seeing your current progress I don't have any doubts we're in for some awesome results. :) P.S.: If you're wondering: I accidentally clicked "Send" too early a couple of minutes ago when I was only halfway through writing. :D This is why I deleted my previous message, but this is the full version now. :)

Crossroads Radio
>>135722370

Yeah... it looks like my last response to this didn't load. I don't remember everything I had said. But I do remember saying that the scene with the Chocolate Daddy, I intentionally made the other guys more as such, to help make the Chocolate Daddy stand out. As far as them constantly calling Max a "bitch," yeah I can see what you're saying. Perhaps I overdid, and could have scaled it back a bit. Initially I based them off of a few guys that I knew when I was in the navy. Gave them that same attitude when we'd pull into a foreign port looking to meet some local women. But I really want to focus more on better character development for sure. On my next day off, I may work on the in between scene that takes place after ReyHentai's place, and before Max offers herself. I'll have to make it as if someone is translating for each chief. Give the perspective of the ceremony, as well as personality for each of the chiefs. Probably the Lore Chief will explain how the they became the Majika Empire. I think I have a good story for it. Which, we'll have some fun cameos just for this section.