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this was a rough one to watch

Parallels are CRAZY and wow way to make Fisk such a sympathetic character

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Joe

This episode forced me to relate to Fisk

Leo Cap

we love a bitch with a backstory in the Kayla household

Leo Cap

DV scenes are always hard to watch. while i’m aware that violence begets violence, I was still happy to see his dad finally eat dirt unfortunately it turned him into the man he is today — still a better man than his father, but infinitely more dangerous

Riley pilgrim

Back when I first watched this it fucking messed me up….

Amir

I love that fisk beats Matt & company through character work. Its not that he finds out that they're writing an article on him. Ultimately it's his decision to do that with Vanessa's help and I also love that Vanessa breaks his routine and actually makes him more dangerous in some ways

Amir

Its subtle but you can see bruises on Fisks mom in the scene where theyre eating together

Amir

I mean hes in charge of a human trafficking ring so I think that makes him demonstrably worse

Leo Cap

fair point, I guess it would be more accurate to say that he’s just more complex Bill rubs me the wrong way very specifically — as Wilson said, “cruelty for the sake of cruelty” — but Wilson obviously inflicts damage on a much larger scale. two sides of the same coin. brutish lowlife scumbag evil vs calculated, misguided evil

OB11

The character work on this show is second to none. The writing is truly fantastic

RetributionT17

This is my favorite episode in season 1, Fisk isn't just another 1 dimensional villain who is an obstacle for the protagonist to overcome he is a real character with legitimate motivations and you empathize with him. You may not agree with his means or his motives but you understand his goals and why he does what he does, such phenomenal writing! And i have to say Wilson would not be complete without Vanessa, she adds a lot of depth to his story and she is pretty interesting herself. What would make this mysterious woman who works at an art gallery want to be with a man like Wilson Fisk? Ahhh we must know!

CyberDread

I'm watching this and I just gotta say, I can't wait for you to get to Season 2. I feel like that's where the show really starts to get good. Season 3 is also pretty good, especially because it introduces one of my favorite characters. Hope you stick to watching this series and eventually get to watching Daredevil Born Again, because this is peak television, I promise.