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Bakemonogatari 1x13: "TSUBASA Cat, Part 3" // Reaction and Discussion (Patreon)

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2024-09-13 21:11:24
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2024-09-24 16:44:34
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Bakemonogatari 1x13: "TSUBASA Cat, Part 3" // Reaction and Discussion

00:00 Intro 00:48 Reaction to Show 16:12 Discussion

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Potter889

Bakemongatari was made with like no budget. It's one of the reasons they have stuff like sort of abstract backgrounds and no other background characters seen. It just so happened that this style fits with what Monogatari is. The original tv version also had much of its animation incomplete with it only being fixed in the Blu-ray verions. Anyway, the low production cost and the fact that anime are presented in cours of 12-13 episodes led Studio Shaft to only originally airing the first 12 episodes. Bakemonogatari, however, became a massive success. Even today Bakemonogatari is one of the top 5 best selling dvd/bluray series of all time, with the entire Monogatari series selling over at least 3 million copies so far. With the success of the series, Shaft was able to release the last 3 episodes, episodes 13-15, as an ONA continuation a few months later. This is why when the show was licensed, only the original 12 tv episodes were included, which is why Crunchyroll only has those episodes. When Funimation licensed the series, fan pressure forced them to also pick up the last 3 episodes as well. However, when they merged with crunchyroll, crunchyroll did not decide, for whatever reason, to pick up the license for the last three episodes at the time. One last thing, for all the tv versions for Monogatari, Shaft always was down to the last moment in animating them, meaning that the tv versions are edited in their visuals with incomplete panels or placeholders that they fixed for the bluray release. Thus, besides Bakemonogatari I believe, all the versions of Monogatari on crunchyroll are the incomplete tv versions and so you guys should really try to find and react to the bluray versions when the time comes if you are not already planning to.

Thomas Young

IDK if you two will read this, but if the mods can pass it along, last episode was the final one on Crunchyroll because these last 3 episodes never aired on TV. This was the first part adapted to anime from the light novels, so it had a lot of restrictions like only getting a 12 episode broadcast even though the story needed more to be fully told. These 3 extra episodes were released later as an OVA alongside the Blu-Ray release of this season. Narrative wise, it is a direct continuation and completion of Bakemonogatari. It's only separate because of the logistics in production.

Ecodude

Anna's pun made me remember that next episode they will witness one of the most iconic memes of all anime lol

Loayza

Great username

ATableWithPants

Since they're using the motbot subs, I imagine they must have the whole thing as the bluray version

Wanderer

They are watching the bluray version :)

Loayza

I see many people sure that they will use the light novel order but seeing that they take Crunchyroll as a reference makes me doubt. In any case it would be nice if a mod told them to follow the order Motbob used, I think at least 90% of us would be happy with that. Great reaction and discussion as always.

Wanderer

There was a very heated few posts *specifically* about watch order, before they even started the show. They are 100% using the MTBB subs, and 99% the MTBB order, which is the LN order. This was discussed and decided like 3-4 months ago so don't worry

Loayza

Yeah but Crunchy order won the poll and I didn't see them saying they'll use the LN order so I'm confused haha 😵‍💫

Wanderer

to assuage some of that confusion, take a look at Bake ep 1x1 on their youtube channel. Timestamp 0:47 ;)

meliotablet

The source material is a Light Novel and yes, that voice actress line is in the LN :)

Gnak

DrWomanRespecter

They quite literally did a poll regarding the watch order. They are watching Kizu after Bake

Gabriel Cabral

They are using Mtbb subs, both are pretty good, I know because I was switching between the two.

Loayza

I know that, it's for Hana and Koyomi

Oisif

"Talking about trauma, stress and phsyical manifestation through oddities, and doing it through cycling each characters with a lot of different story lines, getting the viewers to care for them, and fixing their problem through araragi's selfless goals" Damn, barely finished the first season and she could already come up with the perfect summary of this series. Just lacking "with a generous sprinkle of questionable fanservices and japanese puns". Also htf did she see that aired out anime pillow ??? Damn now I feel ashamed for not noticing that after rewatching this series so many times lmaooo

Loayza

They have the episodes downloaded, they are not watching it on Crunchyroll, they just take it as a reference.

James

MAGES (creator of Steins;Gate) recently posted a video on YT in showing that there's some kind of collaboration project happening with Steins;Gate and Monogatari series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR4shOZ_UB4 I actually don't know anything about the Monogatari series, but I am now 100% interested.

Gabriel Cabral

If I'm not mistaken it's about a cafe and a store with limited products in Japan, so unfortunately is not something big.

Izaya

guys, there is no manga for monogatari. It is a Light novel. one of the classics

Gabriel Cabral

Hana and Koyomi can be watched almost whenever after Mayoi Jiangshi. I personally watched Hana after koimonogatari and koyomi before owari 1. I don't think Hana needs to be watched exactly after Mayoi Jiangshi(LN order), it does not change much, and koyomi doesn't need to be watched exactly before owari 1 too to make sense, koyomi only needs to be watched at any point before owari 2. The most important order is Kizu before Nise, and they are already watching it like this so I'm satisfied.

Loayza

Koyomi before or after Owari 1 doesn't affect much so I have no problem with either, it all depends on whether you want cliffhanger or not. But, at least in my opinion, Hana is much better before Koi, the ending of Koi is more "funny" knowing about Kaiki in Hana.

Gabriel Cabral

You know what, you have a point lmao

Skeletan

Feelin' so good ya wanna share that with Hachikuji is so relatable! Your best friend's *gotta* know and she's the very first person Araragi tells!

TheMightyAnt

i believe it does have a manga. for bake at least. but novels was first and the anime was adapted from from the novel

TheMightyAnt

hachikuji shouldering the weight of the world here

Advesha

there is a manga, but it's completely different than the actual source material from the LNs and isn't canon at all.

Ecodude

the manga has its own "canon", the anime follows the novel. Also Kinda cute how Anna and Ben put so much trust on Crunchyroll lol

koax I.N

I think there's some too indirect deep hints including not shown in anime series. (too important to cut, though many of us may check by myself.^^;) In JPN we seldom play “DAI-HINMIN“ trump-game with3. only3? even it has 4rank game? this completely connects to whole story setting, especially HANEKAWA and ○○. In meta way it's said by HANEKAWA, something difficult to get the meanings. At another season we will find strange about its relation again, the key is here…cut though. So the weired part is very indirect but important autosave will find out it.

koax I.N

well, I think viewer tend to like HITAGI, then treat and have negative image to the samegrade HANEKAWA. till #12, it's not so obvious HANEKAWA is something...big4？ If categorized 怪異, ARARAGI-hair, Specialists and surroundings, and added some clussification like low-chaos, light-dark...cute, friendly, HANEKAWA's clearly top vibes of one element but difficult to recognize for author and production technique. she has connection to many other characters and appeared at last in BAKE-物語. nice construction.

斧乃木余接

At first, I didn't pay much attention to the character of Hanekawa, but the subsequent Nekomonogatari left a deep impression on me and made me more aware about hanekawa,especially what’s the feeling that between hanekawa and Araragi.