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Satine's Chapter 2, Page 1 (Patreon)

Published:
2023-04-20 19:00:02
Imported:
2026-06
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And, here we are. When I post this chapter publicly, I'll have to post all the pages all at once and turn off comments lmao

After the transphobic and just generally uh, bad faith comments I got on the original Satine chapter, I won't be dealing with that again-- but y'all here always have the most thoughtful comments and seem to understand the nuances with Satine-- so hey! THANK YOU!

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DAJ

God I love him

Lani

It’s incredible the nerve people have to make fun of an indie artist for drawing a pretty girl

DCS

lghdf I LOVE THIS, thank you XD

Ro Molina

Satine's chapters always make me smile

DCS

glad to hear it! though, this one is gonna deal with some heavy stuff, for sure...

Ro Molina

Then I'll smile while crying

DCS

haha yes! we can smile knowing it'll all work out in the end ^^

Allan Meyer

Oh noooo… Saltine or Sassal

Vi V.

Oh poor thirsty Satine 🥵

DCS

Context for what?

badmemoryneko

I dont check comments on comics much so i dont know what happened about the transphobic comments.Is satine trans?Or are assholes just being themselves?

DCS

Yep! Satine is trans but closeted right now and not ready to do anything about that. The previous chapter about Satine (which can be read on tapas comicfury or the patron site) has Satine explicitly being like "my body makes me feel fucked up but pleasing other dulls that pain" and people did not like that and called Satine stuff like "femboy" which is soooo not what I'm here for lmao

Broeckchen

Wow, people really have no manners sometimes. I'm just happy for sweet Satine getting some cute hecking lingerie the other day! I guess the siblings have similar tastes in men hehehe

DCS

People see Satine as flawed (which they are, everyone in this comic is) but they still view them as the "villain" (they are not) so I uh, think they use that as an excuse to be mean as fuck LOL and that is not the point of me showing Satine going through complicated things ;w; Once all the pieces of the story are done, I'm hoping it's gonna all flow together in a nice arc but omfg people make that difficult sometimes XD (not y'all tho!)

Broeckchen

I know what you mean. People get weirdly mean on those platforms when they think there's a competing love interest/antagonist. And it often makes me feel pretty tired when I read through the comments. But here it's especially weird and funny because this story is literally all about redemption, development towards being a better and healthier self and learning to distinguish actual flaws from things other people just irrationally dislike about you. It mystifies me how someone can read a story where the pov character is a criminal pivoting from trying to exploit someone to becoming their significant other and spends pages upon pages reflecting and improving on his bad habits, just for people to go "But the character who gives Battam money and has a lil crush on Sal they barely act on, that's clearly meant to be an irredeemabke villain!" Haha But it's also a bit sad because I feel like you put so much effort into making your themes and messaging very clear. Your writing always feels crafted with deep care so you'll say exactly what you mean to say, and you always include enough information to get a good and full picture by just pausing a moment to really drink it all in and think. Oh well. All the more reson for me to keep up the commenting in this lil Satine chapter ♡

DCS

patreon isn't letting me see your very long and thoughtful comment here-- but i read it through my e-mail notifs and it is so nice, THANK YOU!!! all this is so worth it when folks like you get what i'm going for and I try not to worry too much about dumbies who say mean shit, but I AM A BABY and it's hard for me not to complain sometimes (I try to keep it very minimal) because ultimately it is good that someone is reading the comic and maybe they will take something from it, gotta try to be positive. ANYWAYS thank you very much for always leaving such thoughtful comments and reading my comics I APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH

Crafty Geeks

Satine on this page is me .... 👀 Sal

Nofalafagus

I LOVE Satine. And even if these people see Satine as the “villain” that DOESNT give them the right to be transphobic. Satine being trans wouldn’t be what made them a “villain” anyways so why would that be the thing people focus on? Also, and I’m so sorry if this is wrong bc I have only been reading the comic and haven’t played the game, but I feel like I remember seeing something about Battam coming out as trans too in the future? And if that’s the case, WHY are these people reading the comic to begin with if the MC is ALSO something they’re unaccepting towards? Like make it make sense. This is one of the most interesting, fun, and well balanced comics I’ve ever read. I’m sorry that some of the commenters have made you feel uncomfortable enough to the point you feel like you can’t even allow comments on the chapter. You don’t deserve that, your characters don’t deserve that, and the real life people who have to go through transitioning don’t deserve to have to see shit like that either. 💜

DCS

Yes, Battam has some more genderfluid-y feelings about himself than it first seems (I would call him a demiboy, like mostly guy and some non-binary, and he explains as such in the upcoming game when that finally comes out) but his experience with his gender is a lot less involved than Satine's is and he doesn't transition in any way. (That's just how it goes for some folks, different strokes for different yolks y'know) But yeah, most people do not know that and honestly I just think a lot of folks out there have a lot of internalized transphobia and do not understand what is and isn't transphobic to think or say-- it's complicated but it doesn't make it easier for me to see X'D But hey, thank you for your kind words and I do have hope that Satine haters will come around and will start to learn some things as time goes on. I'm gonna keep working hard with the comic and with Satine so like... here's hoping!

Nofalafagus

Well firstly, thanks for explaining the way that Battam would identify and I’m sorry if I upset you at all by calling him trans. And yeah, honestly it’s very complicated to understand all the things that are actually transphobic because honestly I’ve said transphobic things in the past because I didn’t even realize they were transphobic (I have since done my best to educate myself so I don’t make such mistakes again, as the LAST thing I want to do is offend or invalidate someone) but then there are the people who will say the most outright and deliberately transphobic things and there’s NO excuse for that. Not that there’s an excuse for transphobia AT ALL, but there are times when people simply make a harmful mistake, and then there’s people who just want to be hateful. I LOVE that Satine has a lot of their gender identity explored. I like that they’re so multidimensional. And I can’t wait to see more 😍

DCS

Aw naw, not at all. I was just trying to explain that trans as an idea is really broad-- he is still technically trans even if he doesn't transition! Trans can mean a lot of things, it's complex like that. It's a whole spectrum of things. And yes, I try and see if folks are saying something hateful or just a mistake. (We live in a society that teaches us harmful stuff so we all make mistakes-- I've said dumb shit in the past too.) Often times a hurtful comment IS a mistake, but even if you're politely like "Hey, this is why this might not be great" folks can really jump down your throat (so hey, I'm glad we can just talk this out!) so it can be difficult to even deal with that in a comment section-- which is again why I'm considering not putting them on at all for the public update of this X'D Just don't have time to deal with the haters or people who aren't willing to at least hear me out!!! And yeaaaah Satine gets a ton of good stuff in the game (everyone does) and I'm super excited for when I can finally finish it and reveal it to all of you!

Nofalafagus

Oh absolutely! I have quite a few friends who are trans (I’m SO sorry for that cringey statement, forgive me 🤣) who literally are in all forms of transition. One of my friends in non binary, had top surgery. One is gender-fluid and literally just doesn’t give a shit about what their genitals are and isn’t interested in taking hormones for anything, and then I have another friend who is pursuing all the procedures to physically transition. And it’s so dumb but until I met those friends I had no idea that being trans IS such a broad spectrum. Which is why I so firmly believe this type of stuff should be taught, or at least readily available to anyone looking to educate themselves but that’s a different convo for another time 🤣

DCS

Great to hear! I am trans myself so I've been writing a lot of this from my own experiences and desires. (It's the same thing for Gummy and the Doctor.) And yes, it would be nice if we had more information available about this kind of stuff, but things in the USA are scary right now, which is why I think it's important to support trans creators and their creations as much as possible. So hey, thanks for that!

Nofalafagus

Wow I had no idea you were trans! Not that it honestly matters in any way, but that gives even more insight to the comic which is ALSO really cool 😁😁 I’m not always able to be on Patreon but anytime I do get extra cash, you’re one of the first creators I re-pledge to 🤣🤣

DCS

Oh, yes! I am! I realize that it is not plastered all over my Patreon, but I do have my pronouns and suck listed in most of my profiles outside of this. I always appreciate your support and kind words-- they mean a lot to me!