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Heated Rivalry | 1x4 (Patreon)

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2026-01-24 02:00:07
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Serenity La’sandra

THE SCREAM I SCRUMPT , I am having a rough night so this about to hit the spot

PearlyRose

THERES SOO MUCH I WANT TO SAY 😅😅 ( I’m holding it in) Anyways glad you liked the episode Travis , Also the way you were like “Ilya you can’t be mad !! You were screwing around” 🤣🤣 Ilya recognizing miles at the bar and instantly knowing Rose & Shane were most likely there at the club , because he’s been looking at all the “Shane & Rose” media and miles is roses best friend . Shane noticing ilya’s teammates in the club , realizing that Ilya would be there as well Super excited for you to continue on with 5 & 6 🤗🤗

Serenity La’sandra

So fun actually heartbreaking fact that the author of the show runner confirmed I believe, Ilya had prepped for Shane to stay over. He got him his ginger ale, got stuff for his diet, he was the first one to call him by his first name.. think it was feeling all too real and Shane and left 😭😭 That first Hollander Ilya sounded so confused as to why he was leaving, then the second was just so heartbreaking like we can just go back to how things were 😭😭

tjamaicapogue

OMG, I was so pumped that you got to this episode. So a little context - Ilya wasn't trying to make Shane jealous with bringing up Svetlana - he was trying to get Shane to open up about his sexuality and start to have an honest convo. But Shane (in the book) is actually autistic, so sometimes he tends to make the incorrect assumption about what is being said and can't really read between the lines. Also, I think the reason Ilya was so jealous is because he and Svetlana are just friends with benefits, whereas Shane and Rose are in a very public relationship. He was trying to be more domestic / committed with asking him to stay and cooking for him, just for Shane to turn around, run away and right into a relationship.

tjamaicapogue

Right!! The second "Hollander" kinda breaks my heart. Ilya went from the highest of highs to a real low point in like 2.5 seconds.

tjamaicapogue

IKR - I never clicked on a notification so fast in my life, lol

Travis Manning

You took it the way you took it. I took it the way I took it. That’s the beauty of us watching the same thing and taking it in different ways :)

Marie-Soleil Dobie

They clearly love each other 🤷🏻‍♀️😍😭 juuuuust talk boys ❤️😂 I still love the drama 🫣 🔥

Serenity La’sandra

If you didn’t realize, the actress that plays rose is young Shauna in Yellowjackets!

Travis Manning

I def said I recognize her but couldn’t place it. Probably because she didn’t look like a weird cannibal murderer in this show 😭🤣

Serenity La’sandra

The parallels at the beginning montage to the end.. the way that Shane and Ilya were stumbling up the stairs kissing, couldn’t wait to get up there to have sex, but Shane just staring up at her going up the stairs as she’s stripping like no sense of urgency

Jodycnd

If I hadn’t read the book, there is no way I would have figured out what Ilya was trying to ask when he brought up the other girls and Svetlana. Even watching it and knowing the book details, I was still trying to figure out how anyone would realize what Ilya was hinting at.

Travis Manning

Exactly. I’m not reacting to book details. I’m reacting to what’s presented to me in this form.

tjamaicapogue

For sure - wasn't saying your opinion was wrong, I've just been super obsessed with the show and started reading the books and wanted to add some extra context to the convo.

ANGELA

I am so glad I started watching this show with you. After your last reaction, I totally caved and I binged the final 4 episodes. SORRY Trav...I could not stop myself! I know there is only 2 episodes left and if you haven't seen them yet, I highly suggest just gifting yourself that joy. Probably rewatching the whole season this weekend. Great reaction as always! I'm not in any of the discord for new shows but I'd like to drop you a little something for always making me smile/laugh. I've had the worst year of my life and you've been a constant pain reliever. Do you have a zelle or cash app?

Kate

The club sceeenneee. Those needle drops are everything! 🔥🔥 And yes, these boys need to TALK. This was great Travis see you on the next ones : )

Helen Moore

I think it is interesting how Ilya is portrayed as this tough assholey guy but he is the one that wants him to stay, he is the one that wants to lay in bed with him and all of these things that are breaking down that barrier yet shane is repeatedly the one backing out or cutting it off yet he is classified as the more sensitive emotional one

Amanda P

The club remix song has been stuck in my head for dayssss and then all I see is the back and forth of Shane and Ilyas faces 🥲

Jade Coulthurst

Great reaction as always. Good episode here to see Ilya open up a bit more, but yes sometimes his approach can be hard to understand. Like you said, they just need to talk. Haha. It's obvious they really like each other, and the use of first names really freaked Shane out, as honestly I think he really realises here how much he likes Ilya past just the physical. That's how I took it anyway, as a non-book reader either. But I do like how Ilya says Shane's name first and then reverts to Hollander when Shane freaks out. So they are definitely both starting to realise their feelings going beyond the physical - obviously this has been happening but almost easier to push away yet - and I think Ilya needed that wake-up call with seeing Shane with Rose.

Kris

I adore Shane, but I feel so badly for Ilya in this episode. His actions throughout the years clearly show the depth of his affection for Shane. He has consistently pursued Shane—setting up the commercial just to see him, pushing for the hotel room number, and being the first to add contact information. The three-year wait for sexual intimacy (intercourse) underscores his respect and patience. The opening montage shows ilya's journey into finally accepting his feelings for Shane. Instead of hooking up at the bar he's waiting for Shanes next text message. His most recent actions, like preparing his home for Shane's to stay (by purchasing the gingerale) in advance, were intentional gestures of care. When Ilya discusses women, many assume he is simply trying to provoke jealousy in Shane. However, this interpretation overlooks a key aspect: Ilya is unaware of Shane's feelings for him and wouldn't assume Shane would be jealous. In reality, Ilya is, albeit very clumsily, opening up about his own sexuality hoping Shane would do the same. Ilya is genuinely both curious and concerned about whether or not Shane is interested in women, and if so, whether he would ever have a chance with him. Shanes retreat, triggered by the use of first names, which intensified the "realness" of the moment, makes it clear that even if Ilya had opened up more to Shane in earlier episodes, he wasn't ready for an emotional commitment, regardless of his desires. Shane felt safe longing and wanting Ilya, as long as Ilya kept him at arms length, however, now as soon as Ilya pulls him close Shane quite literally can't escape fast enough. It makes me sad when people judge Ilya for trying to make Shane jealous as the club without even acknowledging what led to it. He went completely out of his comfort zone for Shane: By inviting him to his home (not a hotel room), asking him to spend the night (which neither of them have ever done), pre-stocking the ginger ale (because it's Shane's favorite), opening up about his sexual history (in an attempt to make Shane feel safe doing the same) Ilya was being uncharacteristicly vulnerable. All for Shane to literally walk out on him. Feeling personally rejected and watching Shane move on so VERY publicly, especially with a woman, was a massive blow. His actions at the club weren't just 'petty'; they were the reaction of someone who had been deeply hurt

Kris

Technically, Ilya has no right to be jealous, but he’s grieving a profound loss of hope. While Shane knew that Svetlana was merely a 'no-strings 'attached friends with benefits situation. For Ilya, Rose represents a public, sanctioned partnership that cements the impossibility of the future Ilya actually wanted with Shane.

Travis Manning

But did Ilya share that he wanted that with Shane ? Not that I have seen or to my knowledge. Again I am reacting to the things presented to me. Not details in the book or stuff I haven’t seen yet. 🥰

mimi

The next two episodes are so freaking good, they're my favorites.

Kris

I really see Ilya’s actions as a deep sign of commitment to Shane. Even if he’s a bit clumsy, the way he consistently pursues him—being the first to ask him to stay overnight, pre-stocking his favorite drink, and being the first to open up about his sexuality in an attempt to make Shane feel safe enough to do the same. He’s sharing his feelings the only way he knows how. I definitely didn't mean for my take to sound like I was correcting you, though. We’re just so deep in this fandom that over-analyzing is half the fun! Your experience with the show is totally valid, and I’m just happy to be along for the ride!

clémence

Great reaction! The soundtrack is, yes, absolutely FIRE in this show, but especially in this episode. The All the things she said transition was 😍🔥 The absence of communication between the two of them is frustrating 😅 The episodes keep getting better and better, in my opinion. Very VERY excited to see you react to the next 2!

scarr

Absolutely love all this analysis and agree 100% with the perspective about Ilya. I honestly see what’s going on with each of them and don’t feel an ounce of negativity or blame really towards either one- even though obviously things are quite toxic at the moment between them. It’s a really messy and unfortunate set of circumstances that’s complex and completely understandable, from my point of view.

scarr

This is one of those things I kinda wish people would at least wait until a reactor gets through the series before sharing. As someone who has worked with autistic folks for 15+ years, I was surprised to learn this after watching the series. I could go into a lot more detail but basically the nuances I observe in Shane’s communication especially within the complex dynamics of his relationship with Ilya is not what I’d expect to see in someone who was autistic- and actually kind of contrary to it. Not to take away from any autistic folks who may identify with and see themselves in Shane. I know the author of the books has said that was her intention with the character (I have not read them), but it does not sound like the showrunner necessarily tried to highlight that in the story they were telling. So because of that, I don’t think it’s necessary to ask reactors of the series to take this detail into account about the character. I hope that if they do incorporate it more intentionally in future seasons, the showrunners will take measures to create a stronger basis for representation.

scarr

I agree and someone pointed out about the ginger ale that in this episode a lot of us probably took note that Ilya had stocked ginger ale for Shane but what I did NOT pick up on was how every other time Shane is getting a drink throughout the ep he is not able to get ginger ale (which he know is his preferred drink of choice)…they don’t have it at the restaurant with his parents, the bartender questions his choice so he gets a beer instead…I thought that was a cool little hidden nugget!

scarr

I must be a messy bitch because I LOVE all the angst in this episode 😂😅

Tessa Noble

I think that all the other converstions that Shane has started to get to know Ilya always end up getting shut down in one way or the other. So I understand Shane being confused because Ilya in my opinion is a harder nut to crack. Shane is my favourite and as someone who is anxious myself I get him alot. I think people forget that Ilya was kinda an ass at the beginning of the relationship even if its understandable to us but Shane doesn't know anything about his family. People just seem to go harder on Shane than Ilya.

Natasha G

"That's fucking petty" lmfao that' was kind of my reaction, too. More so, both were paying a game-and ya'll got hurt. But I do kind of love it when the person you think might not get jealous, winds up getting jealous lol