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Serenity La’sandra

Yeah it feels too premature for them to be talking about having another kid, like we were just struggling majorly.. maybe let’s take some more time before adding another child into the mix?

Serenity La’sandra

God Randall truly went to hell with it omg. Don’t blame Kevin’s response at all. It’s just overall fucking awful. Below the belt, down in hell, awful freaking fight

Jaelyn

Can’t wait for season 5! 🥰

Kelli

Nicky and Kevin both with the wedding rings on in that future shot 👀

Isabella

I’m so glad you understand Kevin and empathise with him as well as Randall. I think what frustrates me about the Kevin and Randall fight (and what I think is completely intentional by the writers) is that we have been able to see Kevin grow SO much through the series - and although Randall has also seen a lot of his growth, he still treats Kevin as if Kevin hasn’t changed at all. And this isn’t to say Kevin hasn’t been in the wrong in previous situations, but in this circumstance, Kevin was doing all the right things when it came to Rebecca and her wishes, and I think it would be so frustrating to have someone who you thought had seen you grow and change just throw it back in your face and act as though you are the one being selfish for trying to follow your mothers wishes. Idk if I am explaining it right hahaha Randall is incredible but he does have massive blind spots especially when it comes to his family and feeling like he is the only competent person and while some are warranted and explainable, he has not yet done the work on himself that Kevin and Kate have been doing in the last few seasons and this is where it starts to show - I mean we literally had the storyline where he didn’t want to go to therapy and now seeing the direct result of that. Kevin shouldn’t have said what he said either, but I remember when this episode came out and some people were acting as if Randall had done nothing wrong at all this season and I felt like I was in an alternate reality. Like to me it really seems like the show itself is trying to point out the hypocrisy and the selfishness of Randall’s actions vs Kevin’s this whole season (while also giving explanations for them and not making it seem like the actions make him a bad person. Also a lot of Randall’s selfish or hypocritical actions come from a place of good intentions, he’s such a well written character and Sterling is a genius actor). Like the whole storyline of Kevin’s with Nicky and Cassidy alone just shows how much Kevin has grown and can be of service in his own way, and how much he cares in a way that is not always obvious at first glance. Like yes he can still be pushy but often it’s when he needs to be, but he has a lot more quieter sort of introspective moments of understanding where someone is at and being able to meet them there. Whereas Randall’s storyline’s have been sort of showing the inverse of that where he cares so much and so loudly that sometimes he doesn’t hear what the people he’s trying to help actually want and it ends up not being the right thing to do. But because of how they are perceived outwardly, Kevin gets viewed as someone who only thinks about himself and Randall gets viewed as someone who only thinks about others, when in reality they are obviously both in the middle. It’s so nuanced and incredible writing and it’s been set up perfectly as the show goes on. I think some of the viewers also fall into the same mindset of still viewing Kevin with the same lens that perhaps he could have a been viewed with in season 1, instead of the person we have seen him become. People say that Kevin is in the wrong because he said something that Randall had struggled with (eg not being able to save Jack) and yes he shouldn’t have alluded to that but what Randall came back with was so calculated - like he had time to think about it and you can see he almost considers not saying it but then chooses to anyway, knowing it is absolutely the worst possible thing he could say. So then Kevin does the same thing back. It’s awful and heartbreaking but certainly not just on Kevin. Thesis over hahaha I didn’t even say half the shit I was thinking - this relationship is one of the most interesting relationships I’ve ever seen in a show and I could literally go on and on about it (and I am also a someone who has always related to and understood Kevin so I find it hard to not give my 2c when it comes to his storyline’s specifically hahaha)

Malinatzin A

My favorite show ever too <3

Amy Smith

Team Kevin this time. Sorry not sorry.

Naya ✨

Can't wait for S5! I adore all of your reactions but especially the reactions to this amazing show. Also, you know the actress who plays Toby and Kate's adoptive daughter from Once Upon a Time S7! She played Ivy (Drizella) - the girl who we wanted adult Henry to end up with over Lucinda (Cinderella) lol

Allison

That fight between Kevin and Randall physically hurts watching it And they totally set it up making it look like they were going to name the baby Rebecca

TC

I haven’t found any comments on it yet, but Justin’s and Sterling’s fight scene??? Just such well acted !!! Just so good !!! And all done verbally, not physically. Just so good !!!

TC

But such a good season finale !

TC

Interesting I’ve never fought with my siblings like this. Ever. But so interesting!

Angelina Sargent

I feel like Kevin started the cheap shots when Kevin told Randall that he's basically the reason their dad died

Kelli

WHERE IS KATE? The question that people couldn’t stop asking when this aired 😅 I still think Randall was the one who started the fight when he was like “How dare you pretend like you care about anything anyone else wants” as if Kevin didn’t have a ton of growth over the last year with Nicky and his sobriety. Randall was the one who wanted to leave Nicky and Kevin stayed and helped him. Kevin was the one who didn’t push the trial and said to do what Rebecca wanted. Meanwhile Randall was the one doing what HE wanted the last few seasons what with pushing Beth to adopt, running for council, Beth asking him to stop and him saying he’s not going to, all while refusing to go to therapy. Randall cares so deeply for people but also really has a “my way or the highway” sense of things. I think Randall is threatened bc Kevin is finally showing how much he really is like Jack. Cannot wait for seasons 5 and 6! They just keep getting better and better!

AprilDawn

I think you missed a couple hints in the episode, because you never acknowledged them when it showed it. If you did, let me know you did, but when Nicky put his hand on Kevin's back, did you see the ring on his finger? Also, when Kevin put his hand on someone's back it showed him have a ring on as well.