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Early update for July 21, 2025 (Patreon)

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2025-07-20 03:55:01
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2026-06

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college freshmen are horny idiots, welcome to my TED Talk

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C

I love that they physically can't keep their hands off of each other. Passions are running high as can be.

Jozan

I've never felt so much excitement and terror at a webcomic update

Jozan

Damn you Willis

The25th

Oh no it’s the stairs

Jeremy AR

Those lips are freezing

Andrea Andrew

Now, we figure out if we’re poly, or going exclusive.

el

uh oh is that the spot with really good acoustics?!? is THAT how everyone will find out!? half joking

Megh

Dumping stairs about to turn into the fucking stairs

GPanda

Everyone’s going to be inside with various kinds of faces when they go inside aren’t they

C

"...How long do we have to decide?" *Joe and Walky towards the doors* "...About seven seconds." "SHIT!"

ScrimpArt

hopefully she's on her way to break up with joe. 🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️ This is still salvagable right guys 🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️🧍‍♂️

ScrimpArt

like i want to enjoy this ship but hollyyyyy fuckkkk

Smoochie

Discovering someone feels the same way you do will have you down bad, especially at this age. DOWN BAD I SAY.

Harold

Dumbing of Age, Book 15: MRIGHT, MRIGHT

Lia

this is so crazy :)

William Lewis

They have both got it so bad.... I love watching the.💖

Harold

Next strip: Joe, on the other side of the door, with the same series of expressions that Dorothy had watching Amber carving up Ryan

5099 5618 v2.0

Ah, the "can't keep our hands off each other" phase. Gotta love that NRE.

Andrea Andrew

Wow! I’ve never seen this much passion from these two.

Mariah

Well the break was nice back to the drama

Mariah

Joyce and dorothy have been way more chill about the cheating then I expected especially dorothy who i expected to have a morality meltdown about it im sure it will hit them in a few strips

Elihu Aran

Joyce is gonna start discovering polyamory, right??????????????????????????? 🤡🤡🤡 (It's me, I'm the clown)

AE Gonzalez

“Nope! Worse than kissing!” *five minutes later* “Nope! Worse than groping!” *five minutes later* “Nrph! Wrphh thn fngrphn!” *five minutes later* “Nope! Worse than cunnilingus!”

Megh

I mean it makes sense, all the feelings they've been holding back for years are rushing to the forefront now Edit: my dumbass said years forgotting they've actually only known each for 6-7ish months for a moment 🤷‍♀️ Either way my main point stands Edit edit: wait wait I thought about it some more, assuming the first semester started in late August, and it's now late January then they could have known each other for, at most FIVE MONTHS... I always forget just how little time has actually passed in this comic

Mariah

I was on team poly but after hearing willis thoughts... I really think a break up is inevitable.

Grace Serenity

They've been bottling it up for fifteen years! Or four months, depending on the calendar you use!

5099 5618 v2.0

@Rice Salvageable? Oh, not at all. This is a Wicker Man waiting to happen. We're just gathering the last of the kindling before striking the match, now. D&J seem like they'll be good for each other. I do think they'll look back on what they have to go through next and think it was worth it. I suspect what comes next will leave lasting scars, tho.

Grace Serenity

Also, Joyce beat the shit out of Ross once. That was pretty passionate!

Harold

"So, we need to--- JESUS CHRIST DID YOU JUST LICK MY HAND?"

Andrea Andrew

Dorothy: Joyce. Do you like sea food? Joyce: why? Dorothy: it’s time we build our mussels together!!

Maybeeus

Small detail, Dorothy is the one who initiated this one after Joyce started the last two. It's such a good showcase of how both of these two dorks are impulsively horny above all else. Of all the members of the cast it would be these two. Joyce's historical character is entirely built on the foundation of trying to get with someone who was already in a relationship and in DOA she did the exact same thing with Jacob except she nearly got away with it. Dorothy has also repeatedly shown how far she is willing to go when she's horny enough. Her character arc too, back in the walkyverse was about prying a married man off of his wife. Like a Ourobouros it all loops back in on itself eventually.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Andrea Andrew: oh, if only. I'm very biased towards it, but some kind of happy poly outcome would be just... lovely. Mind you, I suspect they need time to figure out their two-person rhythm before making room for others (Then again, I'm not steering this ship...).

Grace Serenity

The multiverse doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme?

5099 5618 v2.0

"Worse... or better?" (/Invader Zim)

Mariah

'' I have operated under one central truth that joyce loves dorothy more than anyone else'' ''This is a symbolic wedding'' ''Sorry Joe'' My understanding is that joyce/dorothy was always going to be endgame and joe/joyce and or dorothy/walky would break up over the course of five years allowing joyce/dorothy to get together. The kiss at the protest only made this situtation a lot faster and messier. I can see a ATTEMPT at poly but I think it will be awkward for everyone involved considering the cheating.

Double

"college freshmen are horny idiots" should not only be the tagline of the comic, but the caption on every strip published.

Heatth

I am a bit confused on the timeline. It appears to be evening now, but I think it was much earlier during the protest? Joyce and Dorothy met up soon after they woke up (Sarah was still sleeping at the time). They all likely slept in, of course, but even then, it couldn't be much later than noon when they went to the protest, right? How many hours did they spend running around without lunch?

Mariah

Garbage Laundry has far surpassed garbage roof we are entering maximum garbage teritory.

Andrea Andrew

Joyce: I heard Becky mention something about scissors. Dorothy: Joyce, I’m going to rock your world!!

Megh

I assume them leaving the protest was supposed to be maybe an hour before sunset, keep in mind the sun sets early and fast in January, so it reasonably could be around 5-6pm right now

Heatth

Really? I am rereading DoA right now and this seem par for the course. Joyce is overall a bundle of repressed horniness and often had trouble staying away from Ethan or Jacob. Dorothy consistently threw her plans to the air to make out with Walky even when she very much thought she shouldn't. That is why they broke up after all.

Heatth

@Mariah yeah, I am just waiting for the coin to drop and they remembering they have boyfriends.

Smoochie

I’m here for the mess. Any Paladin armor and sword I had has been put in a chest under my bed.

Mariah

Yeah it is weird that the relationship palidins forgot about jacob

5099 5618 v2.0

@Heatth I suspect the lost time will become important, imminently, especially because they have been without their phones for that whole time.... Also, we haven't found out if they were filmed or photographed at the protest (and, frankly, I assume they were)

5099 5618 v2.0

Oh, my, yes. We really should all be wearing helmets.

Megh

I know it'll be answered in a strip or two, but I wonder what room they'll stay in tonight I mean the smart thing is their own separate rooms but...they can't keep their hands off each other sooo, probably Joyce's room right? And hope Sarah doesn't wake up! Cause they sure as hell ain't going back to Dotty/Becky's room

Logibear

The calm before the storm methinks. These two without their phones, and people already filming/taking photos at the protest beforehand.

5099 5618 v2.0

Gotta love the energy in the comments section, lately. Feels almost like a Rocky Horror shadow cast :)

Bagge

Go do laundry together?

Maude Reads Things

Hey, you didn't say it couldn't be worse! Just no holding hands!

Heatth

I don't think it is late enough Sarah would be sleeping already. And, at any rate, I doubt Sarah would be ABLE to sleep without hearing from Joyce first. She (and Becky) were already worried the two of them were out there without a cellphone a few strips ago. I doubt they will be able to avoid meeting anyone tonight.

HenryVolt

OK good them, the only problem is I wished it happened under better circumstances given there other partners but maybe they can work something out, I'm glad they're exploring their feelings...I bet Daisy saw them and decided to publish them making out in the paper.

MrShoggoth

“Will you two hurry up and ki-oh, wait.”

Packy Anderson

Or the subtitle of the book this strip is in.

Jay

God I need them to get yelled at and hurry up and break up with their boyfriends. Then they can kiss all they want and ill be able to actually enjoy it

Jay

They dont deserve poly. Polys are based on trust, not cheating.

Megh

Yeah you're definitely right, no way Sarah is asleep I had the thought the other day that Joyce and Dotty might get a hotel room and then come back to campus in the morning. It'd be kinda funny if they turn around next strip and do just that to avoid heading upstairs

Sajuuk-Khar

This does not shake my faith in the Sacred Polycule! I have a whole essay on How Joe Can Still Win, Or At Least Not Die From Heartbreak Like a Sad Swan! Walky, though? Yeah son you’re dumped. You’re out of here. You were a rebound, m’boy, in the worst possible way, and the more I think about it the more I become deeply convinced that Walky is the one who is gonna crash the fuck out.

Sajuuk-Khar

The horniest possible idiots

Bad Poetry

List of people that this hurts: Joe, Walky... and Becky. :-(

Sajuuk-Khar

YOU’RE SO RIGHT and like, God, the eye shine moment of intense romantic/sexual connection. There’s a fuckin’ Joycon matching sound when they lock eyes right now, I just know it. If they’re going to avoid fucking in the common area they’ve got to get apart from each other for five minutes lmaoooo

Gale Tazzin

or even just the end of book 12

CK

Yeeeeah they'll be able to successfully keep this from Becky. For around three whole seconds

Bronxden

So I have a shaking feeling that Joe might fall backs to his own ways but catch’s himself and remembers the journey but I think that relation with Dorothy will be beyond sour, but walky might fall from this and don’t know what to do…I see depression arc coming up (if there’s anything else to follow after these last bits)

Sajuuk-Khar

I know I am the main advocate of the Sacred Polycule to the point that I keep trying to get that ship name to happen, wrote that fic, etc., BUT HEAR ME OUT. A lot of hay has been made and thrown into the air about how Joe is traumatized by infidelity, and it’s not *wrong*, and like, if he discovers this in the next five strips we might be headed to breakup city, but notice that I say *might*, because the gap between “making out today” and “a deceptive affair that destroys a marriage and permanently harms a child” is PRETTY LARGE. And there’s also the fact that Joe *knows* about this possibility. It’s been foreshadowed pretty effectively that he knows Joyce and Dorothy are into each other. It’s also been foreshadowed that Dorothy is important to him vis-a-vis Joyce’s happiness. Willis foreshadowed that he wants to explore Joe/Joyce more. Maybe I’m grasping at straws, but there’s not nothing there! And it’s not like Joyce doesn’t want him! Maybe there’s a mismatch in their levels of attraction, but there’s something special at the core. I don’t believe Joe’s out of the running, and I think if a breakup is inevitable it will, hilariously, be the more slow and sad one. It kind of has to be, if it’s inevitable! Joyce has genuine feelings, Joe has shown growth openly and in front of Dorothy, Dorothy isn’t the type to just flex on Joe and be like Sorry Idiot I’ve Planted My Flag because it’d be wildly OOC even if she hates him forever, all X’s and no O’s, she needs guilt to live and to be in a relationship! Walky, though. Walky is fucked. We saw this song play already. There’s no benefit to keeping it going. The relationship has now run its course and it’s headed right for an iceberg. If anyone blows the fuck up over this, it’s Walkster.

Sajuuk-Khar

I keep hearing this idea and I just…can’t see it. Joe fully backsliding is just…It would be so *lazy*! It would be a betrayal of Willis’s standards! Like, almost as important as the axiom “Joyce loves Dorothy more than anyone” is “Joe would do literally anything for Joyce” and “Dorothy is driven by guilt and a need to fix problems”. If the relationship between those three sours completely it’ll be as a result of like, a line of toxic decisions on all their parts. Walky though. Walky is, uh, he’s screwed. Sorry bud.

Megh

Any chance of you linking that essay? I don't think poly is happening personally but I'd be interested to read it anyway

Sajuuk-Khar

I actually put it in a comment way downthread lololol but I can put the bullet points here: -“Joe would do anything for Joyce” is as axiomatic I think as “Joyce loves Dorothy more than anyone”, and another axiom is “Dorothy is driven by guilt and problem-solving -Joe knows about Dorothy’s bi yearning in advance, his feelings are already complex and layered, Willis has mentioned not wanting to fire that complexity gun till the right time -Joe is way more observant and adaptable than I think he gets credit for, and also self-deprecating—for him to explode would be lazy writing -Joe and Joyce are still uncharted territory as opposed to Dotty/Walky which we’ve charted pretty extensively -There’s all these little twiggy things waiting—Joe’s coping mechanism being free love, Joe’s own near-miss with Liz, Joyce’s intensity of feelings for Joe, Joyce depending on Joe’s companionship since first semester on the DL, Joe’s redemption arc. A flat break feels like wasted potential!

Sajuuk-Khar

Like, I don’t have guarantees, of course, I’m not Willis, but nothing about “Joe and Joyce immediately break it off and hate each other and Joe also hates Dorothy” feels right at all, especially through the lens of “and then Joe backslides and palms a million genitals!” It’s not, to use a Deltarune example, obvious and well-foreshadowed like December Is The Knight, it’s lazy and dumb like Asgore Hit Her With His Truck.

Sajuuk-Khar

A Joe/Joyce full breakup is either going to be sad and civilized and full of yearning and fraught remaining friendship and probable mistakes to the point it looks like messy poly anyway or it’s going to be sad and slow and grinding as everyone violates boundaries all day in a way that would frankly be excruciating even for Willis. Like, it’s going to be a slooooow crash. I don’t know if I’d have patience for that crash as a writer OR a reader, y’dig? It’s melodrama at a certain point. Walky is a time bomb, though.

Ben Wray

Everyone is talking about the makeouts but I want to add that's a great shot panel one.

Railway Series Book Club

next strip cuts to these two turning around and noticing the entire main cast of the comic is standing on the other side of the doorway having just seen them make out

Megh

I agree that Joe probably won't go back into full douchbro mode. I feel like most of his growth has been because he wanted to be better just for the sake of being better in and of itself But him in a polycule with Dorothy? Who his relationship with has been rocky at the best of times? I don't know much about poly, I do know enough to know it could be Joyce is with both Joe and Dotty, but Joe and Dotty for their parts are only with Joyce. Even in that situation I have a hard time seeing if happen cause again Joe and Dotty are basically foils to each other. If Joyce had made out with some other girl maybe, maybe... If they do actually try it I can't imagine it lasting for long

Corronchilejano

Becky's going to be watching from a window isn't she

Corronchilejano

I love it when things look so beautiful, so bright. And then it all comes crashing down.

Sajuuk-Khar

Aha, but consider this: The trope of enemies to lovers. The closeness of that fraught situation. Dorothy’s guilt complex. How petty their Hate Stakes really are: he was a douche in high school and he KNOWS it, she is clearly in love with his girl. These aren’t stakes that can’t be pulled up! Joe’s Lancelot complex (I am a bad knight but I will be the knight she needs). It might be that it’s a bad relationship but it also might REALLY not! There is more that joins Dotty and Joe than separates them.

Alexis Smith

Joe seems to me like he wants to clearly change, and has gone through significant change. If this does affect him, I imagine it'd only be temporary or in the heat of the moment - But I'm hopeful that he'd realize what's wrong and try to work on himself.

Sajuuk-Khar

ANOTHER REASON: Joe and Joyce exploding or even just calling it quits along with Dorothy and Walky would create an imbalanced dynamic. The whole cast (and half the audience) is just mad at Dotty and Joyce all day, all scowls all drama, to the point I’d run away to Yale just to get away from all the Scarlet Letter-y nonsense. But Joe trying, or maybe even succeeding, to make it work? Oh BABY now we’re talking FACTIONS. Now we’re talking AFTERSHOCKS. Now we’re talking BUFFOONERY. Like this could hit the Futurewives, y’all! Imagine if Walky gets an angry, definitely not projecting Becky, and Joe gets a defensive, stubborn Dina!! Delicious.

Sajuuk-Khar

Like, what’s better than petty rivals putting each other to swordpoint and sneering? Petty rivals MAKING OUT at swordpoint

Megh

You make some good points, and honestly I can imagine a world where a successful polycule of some sort exists between these three But I think we've exited that world with such an enthusiastic level of cheating existing between these two already Keep in mind too that Joe basically didn't believe in love till he met Joyce, and now that she's cheated on him so intensely that new belief could easily be killed

Sajuuk-Khar

I mean, their enthusiastic making out is, to me, like a foul ball in baseball: it could go either way. It could indicate a strikeout, or it could indicate a home run coming up. And paradoxically, that same idea, that Joe didn’t believe in love until Joyce and wants Joyce to have anything she wants and needs, only feeds my conviction that Joe is going to try to make this work, even if it hurts—and that Dorothy and Joyce are emotionally intelligent enough to see this. It could still fail! For sure! But it also might not.

Smoochie

@Sajuuk Listen I have been committed and beggaring for a Walky crashout since the beginning. - Dorothy has pointed it out to us that Walky jokes to hide his real feelings consistently. - Joyce cheerleaded when Dorothy dumped Walky, beat him to the comic, and was worth Dorothy staying here instead of going to Yale—something Joyce may point out jokingly that will really cut Walky if he doesn’t realize it himself. - Walky’s debaucle with in his relationship with Lucy are his own missteps but Dorothy effectively broke up with him, pushed him to Lucy (herself basically a Joyce stand in, what’s that tell you) so she could get over him, and then pulled him back to her because she couldn’t have Joyce. - Dorothy has accidentally made clear in front of Walky their relationship means nothing of anything to her, and she can fuck it up as she sees fit. Whether that was subconscious or she didn’t mean it as it sounds—it visibly hurt him so I don’t think he ever really got over her like everyone thinks. I do agree that Joe might make sense of this and we will get a depression Walky. He might even pretend to be the same for everyone’s benefit but then self-isolate.

Sajuuk-Khar

Yeah, I mean even if I feel *certain* Dorothy didn’t mean it that way and if I’m certain Dorothy was trying to do the right thing vis-a-vis Lucy and Walky, I’m also certain in this light that will not be seen charitably. The boy is gonna be Furious. The boy is gonna nuke it from orbit. Horrible idea: Walky goes after Raidah. That’s a Chekhov’s Gun that no longer has any form of trigger lock, and Raidah just lost her hold on Billifer. If her machinations are going to affect the plot, she needs a new in!

C

Now the question is, will the rest of the dorm sanction their buffoonery?

Sajuuk-Khar

Well, we know Tony has no patience or time for it. Bro about to be like the goddamn Mr. Terrific

Sajuuk-Khar

I’m adding that to my prophecy queue: Walky crashes out and becomes involved with Raidah somehow. He probably is also attracted magnetically at the crotch Amber-ward but the Raidah complication seems inevitable.

Megh

Alright I've already stayed up too late, but I've got one more thought involving the viability of these relationships I wanna get out before I go to sleep And maybe I'm making much a do about nothing, but consider how few times Joyce and Joe have kissed during their relationship. Right now there exists only eight panels where Joe and Joyce kiss across a handful of strips: (https://www.dumbingofage.com/backtosorting https://www.dumbingofage.com/king https://www.dumbingofage.com/being-confused https://www.dumbingofage.com/premaritalprehankypanky) Although this only counts kissing on the lips. If you include cheek kisses you can bump it up to ten and add in this strip: https://www.dumbingofage.com/knowing But with Dorothy in far far far less time it's already up to five panels of them kissing. I recognize Dorothy has the benefit of Joyce having gotten over a lot of her hangups regarding intimacy during her time with Joe, but even still, to me it feels like she quite simply just has a higher level of enthusiasm for Dorothy

Sajuuk-Khar

Sarah, on the other hand, I think will side with Joyce IF Joe remains in the picture: even if poly is doomed it will salve Sarah’s conscience enough to keep that roommates relationship stable, AND THEN Walky turning Raidah will cement Sarah’s stance against him

Sajuuk-Khar

I mean, she’s said it would be easier with Dorothy, Dorothy is less sexually threatening, Dorothy is extremely a bottom so Joyce’s top instincts can run wild without the weird church hangup of THE WOMAN BEING IN CHARGE IS A SIIIIINNNN hollering in the back of her mind, etc. I think she might be a little more enthusiastic and a little more comfortable in the Dotty zone than the Joe, but imperfect is still okay! I believe they’ll figure it out. ❤️

Sajuuk-Khar

Yeah these two are absolutely meeting on the same Horny Level and the same Horny Channel. That’s part of why they’re moving as fast as they are: the hang-ups simply aren’t there like they were initially for Dot and Walky and still are for Joyce and Joe. (If the Sacred Polycule is to take off, Joe and Joyce will need to reveal their hornt to one another in a major way. Do I think Dotty will help? Yes. Yes I do.)

Sajuuk-Khar

At their current level of enthusiasm, the Maytag will not only be in the cuck chair it will BE the cuck chair

Sajuuk-Khar

@Smoochie: oh man another reason to believe Walky will be the one not to make it, while Joe will at least hang on for a pretty long while— Joe confessed to Joyce and she returned it and neither one of them has said the L word to each other. They feel it, but they’re gently dancing with it, and while the dance is maybe imbalanced it ending abruptly would just feel kind of crap to watch. But but but DOROTHY said she LOVED Walky. Unprompted. She gave him a little of her heart to hang on to and the boy is gonna STAB it and it’s gonna be JUICY all “you said you loved me. What part of that is THIS???”

Anna K

Willis previously talked about July 12th's strip being a wedding. With that in mind, panel 1 feels like them walking back down the aisle together as wives at the end of said wedding.

Sajuuk-Khar

Final selling point on Sacred Polycule + Walky Explode: I cannot think of anything more black-comedy hilarious than Joyce, Dorothy and Joe soberly, gently hashing out what the future is going to look like, coming to an arrangement, trying for the sake of everyone involved, maybe even sealing it with three kisses… And then Dorothy, exhausted by the long day, heads back to her dorm and passes out. She doesn’t think to tell Walky anything. No one does until there’s a picture in the IDS of Joyce and Dotty kissing. Cue “dang Dorothy what did Walky say when you told him?” from Joyce or Joe, and Dorothy going “…” and we cut to Walky making a noise like a tea kettle on the burner for an hour

Smoochie

Counterpoint: Raidah goes after a damaged and emotionally hurting Walky because of who his mom is—not inquiring that Walky currently isn’t on speaking terms with his mom.

Sajuuk-Khar

LMAO oh absoLUTELY, Raidah is not altruistic, Walky would be a springboard in this. Raidah doesn’t do sincerity in her affairs! Girl doesn’t have a sincere bone in her whole body!

Astariel

Aw, I love these two idiots so much.

Sajuuk-Khar

Wait. Fuck. Jocelyne met Joe. She knows Joe is her sister’s boyfriend. I imagine as a good big sis who Loves To See It she’ll probably check in to see if things are on the up and up with Joyce, be like “so you guys are poly or???” just to know what’s going on, and that goes on the chart of Probably Joe Hears About This Very Soon. I don’t think she met Walky at all though. So she wouldn’t mention him. Walky is the forgotten boy.

Sajuuk-Khar

And then everyone learns why you gotta do that “please speak now or forever hold your peace” at weddings

Sajuuk-Khar

Walky literally becoming Jesus in that ISN’T THERE SOMEONE YOU FORGOT TO ASK? meme

Harold

@Heatth: Again - and this cannot be stressed enough - they DID remember. Immediately after that first epic kiss in the meadow. "Uh-oh." "Yeah." And then proceeded to make out some more anyway. As lost in the heat of passion as Dorothy and Joyce may be right now, they are VERY aware of what they're doing, and that there are MANY difficult encounters and conversations forthcoming. But, as Willis writes, they're horny college freshmen. And this was inevitable.

Sajuuk-Khar

Yeah like, the fact that they’re stopping themselves from going “hey let’s keep GOING!!” indicates they’re still operating their moral compasses, they’re not jazzed for infidelity so much as the sleeper has awoken and the horny is flowing freely.

Andrea Andrew

I question why the other characters would be mad at Dorothy or Joyce. They all prefer them to Walky or Joe.

Sajuuk-Khar

@Andrea: Uh. That’s a very weird assumption to make!

zee

@andrea People generally think cheating is bad and i doubt joe is the only one with cheating parent trauma

Harold

Walky doing Iggy Pop at karaoke: "I'm the world's forgotten boy! The one who's searchin' only to destroy!"

Sajuuk-Khar

Zee is right, and also “everyone prefers them to Walky or Joe” is a wild thing to say, I just…what? No?? That’s not how this works???

Megh

Cheating, as it turns out is a great way to tank people's opinion of you

Prognostic Hannya

Oh god now I want this so fucking bad. I do think it'd be TWO kisses though: Dorothy and Joe would very much not be involved.

Sajuuk-Khar

See, I believe very firmly otherwise. 😝 I am a committed sicko for Dorothy and Joe doing the rivals-to-lovers dance with Joyce as their gently imperious overseer.

Doki

@Sajuuk-Khar The interesting thing I don't see many people acknowledge is that, like... Joe IS traumatized by infidelity, but from the other direction. He's always envisioned himself as the perpetrator, and has probably never given much thought to what it would be like to be the recipient? So I think it'll be interesting to see how that affects things!

Andrea Andrew

What I mean to say is Joe isn’t liked by everybody, and most characters have written Walky off as a loser. I’m just saying. Yeah, they probably will check if they find out that these two are fully cheating, but they seem to be very forgiving towards them and less sympathetic towards the men. I apologize if that didn’t come across in my statement. It’s also very likely that I’m wrong.

Seth Aaron Hershman has they/she pronouns

fully believe at this point walky is a cognitohazard who instantly causes any and all readers to forget any actions he takes or growth he experiences, existing only as a constellation of the facts "named walky", "dates dorothy", and "kind of a lazy slob"

Sajuuk-Khar

OH! He absolutely did! Oh fuck whoops I’m an idiot! Okay, never mind! Joke over! JEEZUS I feel dumb

Ilana Feldman

Joyce is terrible at lying, right? Someone's going to ask her where she was and she's going to reveal in a panic that she kissed Dorothy *before* any photographs go public.

Mariah

sometimes I forget he exists if only because he is not in the comic very often he has become the martin in questionable content. Also don't think he has grown that much the lucy stuff was really interesting but it seems like going back to dorothy has stunted his progress a lot. I truly think he needs to be single for a while and figure himself out.

Megh

Agreed I find people (myself included sometimes tbh) to be a bit weird about Walky in a way that I can't quite put my finger on Your comment here reminded me of something I read where somebody was commenting on Walky when we were getting reintroduced to the characters post time skip. And they were saying Walky "totally became an incel during the time skip" And all there arguments in favor of that position were basically "Look at Walky he's [doing or saying the kinds of things he always has] he wasn't like that before!"

Seth Aaron Hershman has they/she pronouns

@mariah he appears more than literally any other character in this comic besides dorothy what the heck are you talking about also like how did he backslide with dorothy? did he UNcall his mom out on her racism somehow

Mariah

I do not think becky does

Amós Batista

I could receive 10 of them smooching. i'm fine with that

Sajuuk-Khar

Hypnotic effect and everything

Sajuuk-Khar

I could say something about “but but but I don’t think a very human bad reaction to the makeouts on his part undercuts his growth, in my predictions” except I fucking spaced an entire appearance from him, so like, I now feel like my read is about as accurate as Billie re: Amazi-Girl’s identity. Whatever happens, it’s probably the opposite of anything I say.

Seth Aaron Hershman has they/she pronouns

i agree he'll take it badly! because he loves dorothy extremely deeply and exists in a constant state of paranoia that she's too good for him and he's an impediment to her! but like. i dunno it feels like everyone underestimates not just how much he cares but how much empathy he feels and how much other people care about him. everyone thinks it'd be funny if he was an afterthought, or if he had a villain arc, or if he just didn't give a shit, while handwringing and giving a free pass to joe who DID have a villain arc and who tried VERY VERY HARD not to give a shit! and i like joe as much as the next person but i'd like that same grace extended to walky, who's probably not going to form some kind of villain league with raidah what are people talking about

Acebender

boy oh boy can't wait for the next wave of comments

Heatth

Walky is kinda like Becky in which he fronts a lot of goofiness to mask his more genuine moments. And, like Becky, a lot of people completely misunderstand that and see only the mask. I honestly very curious to see how Walky will react. Dorothy have been very unfair to him and, to be honest, she kinda always had, from the very start (like, not on purpose, and not that terribly, but not ideally either). Back at the start Walky idealized Dorothy too much to stand up for himself, and the times he did, he beat himself up for it. But more recently he is more mature and his relationship with Dorothy more equal. He already called her on trying to get him to cheat on Lucy, I hope he gets to call her out on cheating on him as well.

Grace Serenity

Two women on top of a snow hill passionately making out in the middle of a police riot? Nah, no one saw that! Their secret is safe with Jocelyn and Amazi-Girl!

Lisa

I thought the "uh-oh" "yeah" in the meadow was referring to the incoming tear gas?

etherealDesign

first of all: hell yes i love them so much this storyline is making me giddy from how happy i am now secondly: i find it kind of interesting how commonly people are saying 'poly fixes this' when... as a poly girl it really doesnt. cheating is cheating, poly or not, and while i think joe would be better off doing polyamory, and i think it might work for joyce too, it still doesnt work at this point for any constellation including one another. putting my cards on the table here, i don't much care for joe. i think he got off extremely lightly from his ten-ish years comics time/few years of highschool+1 semester of college of treating women like objects. even so, i still really feel bad for him, given the trauma of his dad cheating on his mom constantly and then the first girl he (apparently) fell in love with cheating* on him. what it comes down to, i think, is that poly is really fucking hard to pull off successfully even when you don't start it off in the worst possible way, with dishonesty and broken trust. not that i dont LOVE the dishonesty and broken trust here since it makes a good story, but gotta call balls and strikes here, you know? i think the only way joe would be okay with joe/dorothy after this point is if he had a real disregard for himself and his own self-respect. as much as i dont like him, he doesn't deserve this, and i simultaneously believe that joyce is a perfect autumn blossom and also that joe can do better than her at this point. basically i think that while joe and joyce would both probably maybe be better off as poly ultimately they shouldn't be that way right now until they figure out how to properly love at least one person, minimum, at a time. also, if there's a poly joyce route, she should be getting with becky instead, if anyone at all.

etherealDesign

p.s.: can't wait for dorothy's next karaoke song to be Misery Business

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@Anna K Does that mean they're about to hit the dance floor? Or do they need to eat, first?

Kelly (they-them)

I was thinking about how this would affect Walky earlier today. For the most part, I just feel bad for him. Then I remembered how incredibly fuckin' snide he's been to Joyce and part of me is like, "Get dunked on!!!!" Small part.

Maybeeus

I still absolutely want to see Walky VS Joyce. They've had so much shit brewing since the very start of the comic and i really want to see it come to a head. If any two members of the cast just need to fucking rip into each other (not in that way please) it's those two. It's like the godzilla vs king kong matchup of DOA.

Maybeeus

I am starting to really feel like the best course of action is for Joe to break things off with Joyce. Poly would be very funny and messy, i still do think the Joe Joyce Dorothy polycule has legs and will continue to have legs possibly even after JoeXJoyce Round 1 ends but the fact still stands that a polycule where one or more of the people involved hate each others guts is not a good idea at all. Joe breaking up with Joyce seems like the most fair outcome, boundaries were set and broken and even if Joe is totally willing to forgive her that would mean choosing him over Dorothy and directly getting between their whole thing which he wouldn't do. He's also already been demoted Dorothy clearly holds more ground in their relationship now that's not something that would just slide by no problem. I think the main thing that makes me think Poly isn't out of the question is because of how absolutely messy it would be and not only that but possibly doomed. Everything i said still stands but Joyce is willing to try and Make it Work even if only for a bit longer between her and Joe. I can totally see Walky observing from a distance after getting dumped by Dorothy just going "ok yeah i totally dodged a bullet with this one".

Kelly (they-them)

It very well may happen! I'd like to see it, too. Walky and Joyce have the same social circle, but they don't respect each other. Maybe if they fought and then reconciled, they could come to more of an understanding. I do think Joyce would want to reconcile - I base this on her nature and the way her disastrous date with Joe first semester ended