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The second bonus strip for July is a real strip that I yanked out to make room for that earlier Asma strip! It would've run (obviously) after today's regular website strip with Incredulous Sarah.

It was intended to be a culmination/subversion of the end of the previous storyline, where Joyce and Dorothy were in Joyce's bed playing music NOT smooching. But it's the most easily droppable strip, so YOINK to Bonus Strip Land it goes! Look, we get it, they're digging on each other!

plus its removal gives relationship paladins a small reprieve from the grievous sins occurring, i suppose

also, yes, joyce has at some prior point brushed her teeth, i swear

6/25 second bonus strip: https://www.patreon.com/posts/second-bonus-for-133814010

8/25 second bonus strip: https://www.patreon.com/posts/second-bonus-for-138351045

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Sajuuk-Khar

Honestly, like, honestly honestly, it’s *extremely* for the best this goes in Bonus Land, you made the right call

Heatth

I mean, frankly, this strip was implicit anyway.

Taigan

Me: it’s happening! It’s happening!🥹 Also me: omg, it’s happening. 😨

Rob McBobson

This might be because I haven't drunk any tea today, but why would one strip need to be yanked out to make room for another one? Isn't having more strips a good thing? Or is it a story pacing thing?

Railway Series Book Club

this is gonna be the last strip in Book 15, right? feels fitting for that! i love these fruits so much

Sajuuk-Khar

(Willis if you’re going to rip my fanfic to pieces at least let me canonize the unclean kisses, ya bastard)

Sajuuk-Khar

It’s a story pacing thing, and also Asma fit way way better in the main storyline thing

Packy Anderson

I think it's because the strips need to fit into books.

Railway Series Book Club

i'm presuming its in an attempt to keep the preview panels willis has been posting for the past year in line with the dates they were posted with? but uh, they're already out of alignment bc of the added Raidah strip, so like. i dunno, this feels like it could have been run anyway, paladins with sour grapes be damned

Anna Phylaxis

Hahah oh god they would be so mad if they saw this one. Last I saw they were trying to figure out how to construct the digitizer from TRON so they could be beamed into the internet and force Joyce and Dorothy to apologize, repent, and enter a nunnery

Harold

Sarah, off panel, yelling "Oh... That's not right!" like Sam Rockwell in GALAXY QUEST

zaratustra

"more strips is always good" is how you get Apartment 3-G.

David M Willis

It came before the Sal/Amber strip that published on the main site today

MrShoggoth

I will never not drop a like for a Galaxy Quest reference, please take it good sir

AE Gonzalez

I presume making this one a bonus realigned the preview panels.

Morgan Byrd

There will be Consequences™️, but also d’aww these goobers

Morgan Byrd

Also, I love the last panel as a piece of art. I feel like it captures honest unfettered intimacy in a way that transcends its context.

William Lewis

Damn. I'd buy that last frame as a poster. It's so impossibly innocent and sweet. Thank you, Willis.

Naff

Very cute, and they didn’t make out under Joe’s blanket!

Green

At any other time this would be the cutest possible thing and I would be grinning and bouncing and flapping my hands, but as it is now, I'm just so distressed over how much hurt will follow :')

David M Willis

oh no, the preview panel dates are shot, they're blown, they're over just in the short-term, i need one strip to run on one certain calendar day

Railway Series Book Club

right but like, what i meant to ask was that since its a bonus strip now it'd be at the end of the Book 15 book itself whenever that gets put together, right?

David M Willis

yes of all the strips from these few weeks, it was the most implicit

C

Of course it's implicit...if it was explicit, it'd be on the other Patreon, lol. All jokes aside, yeah, we knew this was going to be happening...but it is incredibly cute to see.

C

Feels like the right call to swap this one out for the Asma strip, but I'm also very glad I'm a Patreon member to see this gem (of course, will end up in the collections, as is tradition).

David M Willis

Yeah, I might insert it back into the regular strip section in Book 15, and just have... extra room to talk about another strip in the Bonus Strip section on one page

Uniquitous

Also, lol @ the toothbrushing

5099 5618 v2.0

(/laptop falls to the ground) (/Brief pause. Nothing else heard) (/Resumption)

A Lorelei V

This is INFURIATING, they are still in their PROTEST CLOTHES why haven't they SHOWERED

Tsa

i'm most worried about Joe. Like this could potentially set him so far back in his character development... I hope he handles it well and maybe we get Poly Joyce out of it, but im still so anxious.

Green

I am SO worried about Joe - I've been rooting for his growth and their ship ever since they were texting after Joyce and Becky went home for the weekend. I just didnt mention him bc, idk, I was self conscious about it for some reason. I know that's silly but I have Anxiety Brain, so.

Green

OH MY GOD I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT!! Oh my GOD, something tells me you don't want to sleep in clothes that potentially have tear gas residue or something. I know neither got a direct heat, but they were still surrounded by it, sort of like second hand smoke.

Maude Reads Things

Cute but also yeah, I'm gonna guess they're not gonna fool Sarah

Green

I'm actually so relieved they aren't using the blanket. That feels like an even bigger betrayal.

5099 5618 v2.0

@A Lorelei V I suspect they will not be in them for long, fwiw.

ScrimpArt

dorothy when she realises those lips touched joe's dick like 10 minutes ago:

Acebender

One for the sickos

Harold

Agatha has entered the chat

Kelly (they-them)

You're kissing. Amber is bleeding out in the woods, and you're kissing. Edit: to be clear, I'm making a reference to the "you're laughing" meme (meme explained in this link https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/murrays-youre-laughing). I'm not earnestly implying that Dorothy and Joyce don't care about Amber. I know they think she's safe. I actually think this is a very sweet, cute moment.

Railway Series Book Club

@5099 5618: as awesome as it would be for joyce to have her mouth on a second set of genitals tonight, its probably in dorothy's best interests for joyce to not eat pussy while her face is still covered in tear gas residue

Railway Series Book Club

actually wait. i just realized this means she put her mouth on joe's dick while her face was covered in tear gas residue unless she washed her face between strips i guess

Harold

@Morgan Byrd: My sentiments exactly. It's too bad this isn't an "official" strip (it's canon as all bonus strips are, but still), because - external/Paladinian concerns aside - everything about the whole thing is utterly lovely: the fingertip-brushing progressing to full handholding, those shy/sly looks in panel 3, and finally that kiss. It's a kiss that can't be credited to "oh, they're just high on the adrenaline of the moment"; they've had time to think (and, in Joyce's case, to do... other things), and this is still something they want to do, need to do. This is A Real Thing.

Kelly (they-them)

It's a good thing they're not using the weighted blanket. You can't really put those things in a washing machine

Railway Series Book Club

adding amber to the list of characters whose feelings matter more than joyce's and dorothy's, and should be prioritized by the narrative at all costs lest the comic become problematique

Charlotte

I'm happy we get to see this and I want them to be together

5099 5618 v2.0

@Kelly (they-them) ok, sure. But they don't know that. And they're already pretty distracted by more immediate shenanigans

5099 5618 v2.0

@Rice She ...er... seems to have other things on her mind.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Kelly (they-them) "It's true." (/Dwight)

5099 5618 v2.0

@BBCC I doubt they'd fool passing aircraft, at this point.

Astariel

Aww, this is so sweet. I love it and I love these two so much. I'm sorry this one got pulled, but I'm very glad we got to see it as a bonus.

Kelly (they-them)

Sorry. That was a joke, not genuine criticism of the two. I explain myself more in an edit to my original comment

5099 5618 v2.0

@QueenOfSodor That would be entirely in character, IMHO. Although if she (both of them?) had time to brush her teeth, I suspect washing of hands and face(s) also happened. Also, as tragically funny as it would be for them to still have TG powder on their faces/hands and find out the hard way why that would ...cause problems in moments like this, it also comes across as just a bit mean. Impossible? No. Potentially hilarious and a treat for the paladins? Sure. But the strip seems to love these two just a little too much to go *there* (unless I'm wrong, but that's where I place my bet).

HueStL

I like that they're not using the weighted blanket. Feeling /some/ guilt, but not enough to stop. edit: I'm going to start calling the weighted blanket the guilt quilt.

HueStL

group chat's open and they're ignoring Amber saying, "I don't feel so good, chat"

HueStL

September 10th strip... of Danny making a big deal about throwing a paper airplane.

Carl Cravens

I'm struggling here, because I was rooting for Joe and Joyce long before they got together. And freaked out how, by kissing one time, they realize they have to break up with the guys without even explicitly saying it. I thought when they were going to "tell them" I thought it was, "tell them we made a mistake before they hear about it from someone else," not "tell them we're breaking up." I like these two together, but it seems mean to Joe who has been so patient. And Joyce was really into him... how can she drop him so easily?

AE Gonzalez

“Gonna”? They stopped fooling Sarah the moment they started talking.

AE Gonzalez

T he Almost Kiss, The First Kiss, and now this; Joyce started by caressing Dorothy’s face.

5099 5618 v2.0

(The laptop is probably fine. It fell onto Joe's blanket, I assume)

Diego Garcia

I think you answered your own question. Sometimes I doesn't matter if you did everything right. True love is a deep, carnal instinct. Though it doesn't excuse it, it transcends commonplace morality. It doesn't matter how good things are with who you've got. When you know, you know. Now, what you choose to do with that and how you go about it... That's the part I agree is being haphazardly, selfishly botched here... But they're young, stupid, and their adolescent willpower has been near-razed by the consecutive string of traumas they've been enduring. They're still kids. We're watching them learn how to be good people, the way you and I learned. But that's not an excuse, of course - They'll very very likely face consequences for this, and hopefully learn from them.

Maybeeus

i am SO mad that i made the "this ain't about her post" on the last strip posted and not this one where it would have been perfect.

Sajuuk-Khar

We haven’t seen how Joe felt about the blowjob, he may hate oral now

Maybeeus

@QueenOfSodor Anytime i see someone on these Joyrothy pages go "what about joe :(" i think about that image that was like, someone saying "god i hate bugs" followed by a bunch of images of bugs saying shit like "Even me? :(" "What'd i do???"

5099 5618 v2.0

@Maybeeus "Clever bugs..." (/Galactus)

5099 5618 v2.0

@Sajuuk-Khar I've seen some awful breakups, in my time. Not sure I've ever seen one that made a man hate getting head, before. I'm not saying it's not possible, just... Damn.

5099 5618 v2.0

(This one comes from Mrs. 5618): "maximum easy dick move: dorothy waking up in her dorm alone, next strip"

Gwen R

I like to imagine she's still there watching with the exact same expression as her last panel.

Ragtime

Just realized that Dorothy is a MASSIVE hypocrite. She is doing just what she criticized Joyce for with Jacob.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Ragtime Yup! She's going to have to reckon with that, and clean up what she can of the mess they're making.

Maybeeus

Dorothy's morals run incredibly deep. But her desire to be with Joyce runs deeper. She'll burn the entire world down to be with her but then do everything in her power to make amends afterwards.

Amós Batista

I loved the Joyce's hands detail

Heatth

She also letting her feelings for Joyce influence her academic path, which is against what she said to Danny in the very first day of college. With that being said, I will argue there is a major difference between what Dorothy did and what Joyce did with Jacob. Joyce's home-wrecking was premediated, first for Sarah and then for herself. She worked for days on that plan to break Jacob away from Raidah and then actively lied and tricked Jacob into fake dating her for a day. Dorothy, meanwhile, did most of her stuff by impulse without even being consciously aware what she was doing for most part. She only really committed to when Joyce went for it. To be fair Dorothy also has the aggravating factor that she have a boyfriend, which Joyce didn't. Even then I would argue that Joyce was more deliberately immoral then than Dorothy is here. The whole "lying to Jacobs brother and using it to try to worm into a relationship" seems fairly bad to me personally.

Railway Series Book Club

@Maybeeus: see it's really funny that you bring up that meme bc that's actually an edit and the original is a woman saying "god i hate men" and the replys being a bunch of insecure men which, yknow. feels fitting in the current zeitgeist of paladins trying to make everything about the men lol

Heatth

To me the fact that Joe have done nothing wrong, that he has frankly been close to the perfect boyfriend, is what makes the breakup so interesting to me. And why I actually want to be a break up and they don't ever come back together. Because, like, sometimes life is like that right? Love is not always a rational thing, and nobody is owned a relationship just because they been perfect. And that mess is interesting. Ultimately I am very interested in how Joe deals with that. It goes against all his ingrained narratives about himself and relationships. *Specially* because it is cheating. Not just a breakup, but one he was done dirty. One of the most uncomfortable aspects of his relationship with Joye is how relentless self-depreciating he was, always thinking he was one step away from "ruining" Joyce. Will he be angry at the betrayal? Sad? Or will his guilt worm its way into his head and construct a narrative where it is somehow his fault? I think none of this could happen without Joe having this heartbreak and I am excited to see how it plays out.

Heatth

I know right? Can't imagine getting home from a protest and not showering first thing. Specially because multiple people commented the reek.

Kelly (they-them)

(Willis simply enjoyed your fanfic and wanted to give you a reason to write more)

Tessea

Sarah is clearly neglecting her 'Keep Them Honest' duties.

SmartAlec105

@Jake, I don't think it's really fair to talk about true love that way. It invalidates what Joe and Joyce had if you say "oh but that wasn't true love so it doesn't matter".

Diego Garcia

@SmartAlec 1. I literally said it doesn't excuse it two times. I don't know where you got "it doesn't matter" from, but it certainly wasn't from the contents of my comment. 2. True love isn't a 0 or 1 thing; it's a spectrum. What Joe and Joyce had could have been true too. But evidently, to Joyce, in this moment, she is more in love with Dorothy. Evidently, this love is truer to her, but does that mean Joe's love doesn't matter to her? Evidently not, or she wouldn't have even considered giving him the courtesy of closure she's... attempting... to give him. 3. If we're going deeper here, true ≠ best. True = pure. A love can be purer, but that doesn't intrinsically make it better. This is all in the eye of the beholder. Respectfully, I believe you misinterpreted what I was trying to say. I'm saying emotion makes you do stupid shit, and clearly the emotion she has for Dorothy is more powerful in this moment. Sometimes, life gives you hints to what will make you happier. Does that mean any other choice doesn't matter? Does that mean Joe doesn't matter? Of course not. Her feelings for him are insanely real too. She's leaving a warm hearth to chase the storm she might be born for. She's setting down a song she loves because another melody woke her soul. Yes, she's leaving a painting unfinished, but not because it isn’t beautiful; because another canvas made her heart tremble. It's an incredibly tough choice, and it wouldn't be if Joe didn't matter to her too.

tifani

I think this whole thing is going to lead to her realizing she doesn’t want to drop him and she won’t be able to. I think Dorothy/Joyce are in a new love bubble right now but from what we’ve seen when she is actually with Joe she does still want him. I think Dorothy is going to have the same realization with Walky (but I think Walky is going to take this way harder than Joe because Dorothy has been playing way more games with Walky). I think Dorothy/Joyce both have this idea that a choice has to be made. I think they’ll both be shocked at how this actually ends. I also think people are really really underestimating just how much Joyce cares about Joe. And those people include Dorothy and Joyce herself.

Carl Cravens

Tifani, I do kind of expect Joyce to wake up to a crisis... that choosing between the too isn't as easy as it felt at first. But who knows where this will go, aside from somebody's going to get their heart broke.

tifani

I think broken hearts are unavoidable but I also think they don’t necessarily have to be permanently broken. (I predict break ups but also make ups is what I’m saying).

T Campbell

Seems like a pretty plot-heavy strip to cut! But maybe it'll be redundant with the next time we see 'em. Probably will.

Jay

No comment. But its cute

Sajuuk-Khar

@5099: Oh, it sounds deeply unlikely, but if anything could do it, getting head that burns horribly from your first real gf and then breaking up the next couple days might 😂

Terra Bruder

So many terrible things in the world right now and the reminder that people are still falling in love honestly makes me cry. I've said it here before, but queer people (and especially queer neurospicy women) choosing to embrace a new self-understanding is an incredible act of resistance against the stochastic terrorism of Christofascism and compulsory heterosexuality. It's so much more dangerous than it seems. It's just less dangerous than living a lie.

Shane Wegner

She frowned disapprovingly and went to Tony’s, which is solid considering said duties are unfunded.

Shane Wegner

Indirectly making her detractors like Raidah and maybe Roz a little more right about her? Oof.

shiftdruid

which paramore song is playing on this one

Harold

In the morning, Sarah returns to the room, followed by Becky. They see Joyce and Dorothy, still asleep, entangled in each other's arms. Becky: "Heh-heh. Lookat'em, Sarah! Anyone who didn't know better'd think they'd actually been doin' lesbian stuff with each other." Sarah: [Stares at Becky with look of incredulity]

BriSK

Clearly totally platonic. Just gals being pals.

Harold

@Shane Wegner: Well, we don't know for sure that Sarah went to Tony's - that's just what most of us are headcanon-ing. I wouldn't put it past Our Horny Idiots to be doing this, thinking they're being quiet, as Sarah lies in her bed desperately trying to smother herself with her pillow.