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Avidan

Joyce, later: Raidah reads my comic!!!!

Lazuli

fourth wall breaks can be so funny

MrShoggoth

I can see cracks forming in the facade of normalcy!

Jamie (QueenofSodor)

also, faulty argument there, raidah! there's not an amber, jennifer, or sal either.

Minzoku Bokumetsu

wait, so Rich Mullins is in the comic?? (trying to think of the funniest "person Joyce knows" who could be in the comic)

Harold

That's actually a fascinating bit of detail. Maybe Joyce simply knows that the intensely private Sarah wouldn't *want* to be a character in her comic. (Walky probably wouldn't want to be a character either, especially at the moment, but of course Joyce doesn't give a shit about his feelings.)

AE Gonzalez

Walky did appear in one comic as one of Doris’s himbos.

Kazo

Cue John Cena meme: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?!

Andrea Andrew

Yeah, who’d do that to these characters?

Avian

Joyce is an awful example to use, she LOVES Sarah like a sister.

Lazuli

why facts when obsession leads you

Kelly (they-them)

Raidah has read Joyce's comic often enough to be aware of this. I was gonna also point out that there are several people in Joyce's social group we haven't see in her comic, but we've only gotten to see a handful of her comics

Lazuli

raidah reads joyce's comic?

Harold

@Jamie(QueenofSodor): Not that *we've* seen, anyway. We also haven't seen Seth's roommate, Hatty.

Astariel

So much for Raidah having any noble motives in this conversation. She really needs to get a life.

Ryan Kertai

If Joyce considered Sarah's feelings that way, she would have considered everyone else she put in there without consulting them first, but whenever she's called out, her defense is always, "that character isn't based on you! Notice how the hair color is different!" It's still weird that Sarah would be a rare exclusion from Joyce's ostensibly unconscious likeness borrowings.

Tessea

I think Raidah's grasping at straws, hoping to demoralize Sarah into backing down.

Avian

which won't work, as Joyce adores Sarah and...Joe and Dina are in the room I believe?

Packy Anderson

For exactly what she's doing here: some kind of leverage over Sarah.

Packy Anderson

So she can get knowledge she can use against Sarah.

GundamBradley

Joyce cares about Walky's feelings to a degree, but not with respect to her tunnel vision regarding Dorothy.

Tessea

Sarah shouldn't be cowed by this in the slightest. Raidah's just scrambling for _anything_ that can get her momentum back, but she's gone completely off topic and is now just throwing insults and pulling BS out of her ass to try and demoralize Sarah. Joyce sees Sarah like a sister. she's pretty much family to her at this point! Insulting her gains Raidah no leverage in this conversation. I think she's just grasping at straws with the comic thing as I doubt Raidah even knows who all is in Joyce's social circle.

GundamBradley

Sarah's often sought for help or guidance, is almost invariably invited to parties and hangouts, Joe has been acting as a personal trainer to her, and so on. I'd say she has friends.

Corronchilejano

Raidah, definetly not obsessed over a college comic strip.

Sajuuk-Khar

When Raidah said “shadow infrastructure”, what she meant was “figures of psychosexual obsession.” Yes, even Carl.

Sajuuk-Khar

If we were analyzing this conversation like chess, that move right there would rank as a very weird inaccuracy or blunder, Raidah (Sarah’s move previously was excellent.)

Sajuuk-Khar

…Dina, you have the opportunity to completely devastate Raidah’s fragile psyche and I do hope that you take it. Revenge is a dish best served cold, and this would be delightfully glacial

Maude Reads Things

Joyce literally calls her big sister. I think Sarah's good there. Joyce also knows her big sister well enough to know she will NOT want to be in her comic. XD

C.T. Phipps

No, no, talk more about Dana! Willis has kept us in suspense for...SIXTEEN YEARS!

Fart Captor

GIRL, She has friends IN THIS VERY ROOM

Zesstra

I'm now picturing how Raidah would be in the comic and the first thing I imagined was a Kindergarten Cop reference of her asking people "Who is your daddy and what does he do?" to reflect the way she evaluates people she meets, but 1) there's no fucking way Joyce was allowed to watch Kindergarten Cop and 2) she wasn't around for the conversation where Raidah asks someone what Walky's parents do.

Zesstra

"Mom said it promotes divorce and a culture where men aren't allowed to see their sons." I just forced myself to think like Carol, I need to cleanse myself.

Shane Wegner

"I don't need to justify to you whether I have friends, Raidah. Conversation is over."

Zesstra

OK technically Joyce was in the scene for that conversation because Raidah and Jennifer also note that Joyce looked awful because she was dealing with her menstrual problems, but she wouldn't have heard the conversation. Whenever I nitpick other people I hope they remember that I will nitpick myself too, even at 6am local time.

5099 5618 v2.0

Oh, might wanna check the archives, Sarah. Given how much Joyce cared about your opinion (and your figuring things out before she was ready to talk about them...) after she and Dorothy crashed together shortly before they broke the news to their boyfriends, I suspect you'll find your points of resonance once you look. God help you, but I think you *will* find them.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Jamie (QueenofSodor) Hey, quality webcomics are their own justification.

5099 5618 v2.0

@Fart Captor And Dina is also there. (Wait, are we talking about Joyce or Sarah?)

5099 5618 v2.0

@Jamie (QueenofSodor) Is he more hat or guy?

5099 5618 v2.0

@Kazo Dina: (/does the "You Can't See Me" motion)

Kelly (they-them)

Until proven otherwise, my head Canon is gonna be that Raidah just genuinely likes the comic. It's the funniest possibility to me

Kelly (they-them)

Ooh, have we seen Joyce say Fuckface's name since she gained the ability to say "fuck"?

Sajuuk-Khar

Raidah: Goddamn stupid fucking Joyce and her mastery of dramatic timing…!!

Kelly (they-them)

Flashback to Raidah finding out the print edition of the IDS has been canceled. R: And now I can't even cut out my favorite comic anymore! Another scrapbook ruined

Zesstra

Really early. I won't go into life story stuff but I've been sleeping particularly poorly the last month or so.

T Campbell

I feel like Raidah's starting to dip into her "B" material here. The bit about "fucking the infrastructure" was petty and unfair, but it wasn't hard to imagine it knocking at Sarah's own doubts about her relationship. But right now, Sarah and Joyce's biggest issue is that Sarah doesn't approve of how Joyce has managed HER love life. The fact that Sarah's not to be found in the world of Julia Gray is interesting, but there are a dozen explanations more believable than "All that big sister/little sister stuff was bull and you're just an afterthought." Is Sarah really paranoid enough to buy that? Maybe she was in the earliest days of the strip, but it feels like she's come too far for this line to work now.

joe mcguire

Notice that Raidah did not deny Sarah’s assertion and just leapt to another, different kind of dig. She doesn’t have much to say in response because Sarah hit it pretty square on the head. People like Raidah who like to collect people like toys hate it when their toys turn out to be real people who go in directions they can’t control. Nothing probably infuriates her more than seeing Sarah— who she “exiled”— living a reasonably happy life with friends, a boyfriend, and prospects for the future. The best revenge really is living a good life.

thejeff

Is anyone actually in the comic that Joyce wasn't crushing on?

Astariel

Becky is in it.

Harold

@Sajuuk-Khar: "Stupid sexy Space Force Captain Julia Gray and her stupid sexy spiffy space-tronauts"

Tessea

I really doubt _every_ friend of Joyce's is in the strip. What about Jocelyn? I don't think I remember seeing Becky but she's almost certainly in there. Did she ever put Mike in there? Ethan? Amber? etc, etc...

T Campbell

Almost as if Raidah wildly underestimates the number of friends that someone like Joyce could have

Kelly (they-them)

Sal is in the comic, but Joyce merged her with herself. Hmm

Tessea

I start to wonder is she even understands what 'friends' are.