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Star Trek TOS 1x29 City on the Edge of Forever (Patreon)

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2026-08-01 20:00:03
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2026-08-02 01:01:06
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deskmerc

What happened to the guy? DIsintegrated, by firing a Type 1 phaser at himself at full power.

Owen Kosik

Here on the backend of forever I wish I would never Hurt again

Harry S

This is considered the best episode of the entire Star Trek Franchise. The bum took a phaser and disintegrated himself. He is dead and gone. Thanks for a great show, By the way, if you want to see Spock in command watch the episode The Galileo 7.

Harry S

Type 2 phaser.

Jonathan Kardell

That poor little milk thief accidentally disintegrated himself with McCoys phaser. The Type 1 phaser about the same size as a communicator but it looks a little different. The Type 2 phaser looks like a pistol and is more powerful. Also, congratulations for the most graceful sneeze captured on camera. Nicely done!

Who Are These People

This is the one episode written by a truly good writer; not to knock the Star Trek writers, but Harlan Ellison was a widely-published and awarded sci-fi author. He won 11 Hugos, including one for this episode, and 3 Nebulas. And Joan Collins was Nominated at the Golden Globes six times and won once.

Michael Gehrman

The title is wrong! It’s “The City on the Edge of Forever”. The guy disintegrated himself.

Daniel Turbyfill

No it’s a Type 1, the Type 2 is the pistol.

Matt Blanchette

Um... gosh., that's not the title; I'm sorry. :-/ It's "The City on the Edge of Forever". Unless this is somehow a crossover with that Tom Cruise movie.

Matt Blanchette

He kvetched about rewrites done to the episode, though.

Paul K. Bisson

I bet Kat wrote that title just to play with us. See all the ppl commenting without playing even the first few seconds. lol

katwatcheshorrormovies

LOOOOL!!!! Trying to get everyone hyped for the next tom cruise movie!!! Hehehehe ;D

katwatcheshorrormovies

LOL YES!!! I’m getting people hyped for the next tom cruise movie. Which is a BANGER!!!!

Paul K. Bisson

Great reaction. It’s a joy re-watching these episodes with you. Oh, the milk thief VAPORIZED himself, poor chap.

michael mccafferty

You can argue that this is a time loop. Edith Keeler was struck by a truck because Kirk, Spock, and McCoy went back in time. If they hadn't gone back in time, would Keeler have not been struck and killed by a truck? Does the Federation only exist *because* they went back in time? McCoy going back in time also created a 'milk-thief' shaped hole in the universe. Maybe it wasn't only necessary for Edith Keeler to die for the Federation to exist, but it was also necessary for that sad, hungry, homeless man to die too. Let's pull on that thread. I imagine that the 'milk thief' was a WW I veteran (notice the missing digit on one hand), probably with PTSD. There are no medical or psychological resources available to him, he drinks to self-medicate, every year is a little worse than the previous one, and he becomes ever more desperate for food, clothing, shelter. Do his petty crimes escalate, does he nudge ever so slightly the life of someone who would otherwise have been the great-great-grandparent of a historically important scientist of diplomat? Accidentally killing himself is a tragedy, but what it that tiny deletion created the space for different choices in someone else's life down the road?

deskmerc

While it is not my intention to start a nerd duel, on screen dialogue validates my assertion. In Devil In The Dark, during a discussion of what weapons to issue, Spock says "Certainly not phaser one, which is far less powerful than phaser two.” Phaser one were the smaller lozenges carried by the workers planetside, and, as you can see, phaser two is issued to security and Kirk and Spock later.

Michael clark

Joan Collins was a great actress… she appeared in many things before and after this..

Michael clark

Just think of the fun you are missing every time you skip an episode. I have seen them all 10 times each… been watching them for 60 years since I was 9.

Vak

Fantastic episode. It's so good that one almost has to come up with reasons WHY they don't consider it the best overall. (Mine are that I like a bit more political background and space shoot-'em-ups in my sci fi, but, I digress.) From a dramatic standpoint of "our hero must make a decision with consequences on either side," and also just a character standpoint of "well, if Kirk DOES love her that much (and he does), how much is he tempted to just ignore Spock and the future completely for the sake of Edith," this one is magnetic. Bonus Trek points: The Kirk/Spock repartee is seldom as strong as it is in this one; we get a hint of the Leonard McCoy charm machine when he finally shakes off the overdose (please see "Shore Leave" for him taking vibe that to eleven). And NOBODY can keep a straight face the first time watching this when Kirk is trying to BS the street cop, and failing hysterically. Kat, because you asked about the guy on the street - he grabbed McCoy's phaser (that he specifically snatched earlier in the episode) and literally vaporized himself - AND the phaser, as he was holding it. Timeline preserved from a future tech point of view. But it's kind of chilling that this moment is low-key stating that...whether that guy lived or died didn't change anything. Spock never saw him when reviewing his tricorder. He vanished, and the universe simply didn't notice or care. THAT'S chilling. Harlan Ellison wrote the first draft of the script, and notoriously hated this episode. But Ellison gave off the vibe of being his generation's Alan Moore, in the sense that he hated everybody and everything, almost on principle. The script as filmed isn't perfect - Edith is less of a believable visionary, and more of an actual prophet here - but it's a much better TV episode than what he wrote.

Michael Gehrman

By the way, since he disintegrated himself by overloading the phaser, we never see him again. There is no device that beams someone up.

Michael Gehrman

This was written by a proper established well known science fiction author.

Kinokind

Arguably the best Star Trek episode. Certainly one of the few. It won a Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation. The original version (although much altered) was written by Harlan Ellison, who would later sue James Cameron for "borrowing" from a couple of his screenplays to create "The Terminator." Also, the first time I'm aware of that the network allowed someone to say "hell" on TV. Hardly a thing now, but it was very controversial at the time (along with Kirk kissing Uhura, but that's a different story!).

Harry S

You're right, my mistake.

BrakYeller

This episode is routinely voted by both fans and critics alike as one of the best of the entire franchise, and in episodic sci-fi media in general. It's a stand-out for many reasons that others have already pointed out. The writing of this episode was contentious at every level. Harlan Ellison disliked the finished product so much that he campaigned to have his name removed from the credits and replaced with his famous "Cordwainer Bird" pseudonym that he reserved for his projects that he felt became ruined by the input of other people, but the Writer's Guild shot that down. (He later sued CBS/Paramount in the late 2000s after they announced the BluRay release of the remastered version of TOS, seeking back pay for ancillary income on the episode, claiming that the Writers Guild didn't secure it for him way back when the series was still on the air in the 60s.) To be fair to Ellison, Gene Roddenberry re-wrote a LOT of the Trek scripts submitted by famous writers of the day; Roddenberry had a great need to be involved with every aspect of his show, and he had a tendency to put his name on everything associated with the show, deserved or not. And to Roddenberry's credit, Ellison even back then was notorious for being difficult to work with. In the end, though, BOTH versions of the script won awards, with the original script winning the Writers Guild Award for Best Episodic Drama on Television, and the shooting script winning that year's Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation. (There are stories from both awards events where Ellison and Roddenberry 'exchanged words' with each other after presentation of the awards... lots of bad blood there to create such a magnificent work of drama.) The notoriously litigious Ellison continued to be stingy with allowing others to use or even mention the Guardian of Forever (one of the Trek franchise's most powerful artifacts) without threatening a lawsuit over the creative credit of having written the episode that introduced it. It remained only very obliquely referred to on-screen by other characters throughout the Trek franchise literally right up until Ellison's death in 2018, because no one producing the show wanted to deal with one of his lawsuits. This even extended to the many non-canon Star Trek tie-in books, where several writers sought Ellison's personal permission to use the Guardian of Forever in a story, which he granted to some but denied to others. Ellison was just generally a contentious person, and while he is very much rightly regarded as a luminary of science fiction, his legacy is somewhat marred by the many controversies and allegations against him. He did not have a lot of kind things to say about Star Trek, its characters, or its cast and crew after his experience making "City on the Edge of Forever." And yes, the milk thief accidentally disintegrated himself and McCoy's phaser. He accidentally set it to overload (hence the steadily increasing whine) and he was still holding it when it went off. The way it's depicted in the episode makes it a little unclear. It could be hypothesized that Federation disintegration technology is a bit more humane than when certain other aliens in the franchise disintegrate someone, where it is *very* clear that they're being disintegrated. One thing that's always bothered me about this episode: how did Kirk, Spock, and McCoy retrieve themselves from the past? Did the Guardian just snatch them up once the historical record was corrected, seeing that the job was done and history no longer needed to be disturbed? Or did the Guardian open a portal right there on the street, and Kirk was like "wait a minute, we have to go back upstairs and change back into our uniforms and get our stuff from the future, BRB"? It kind of feels like the Guardian was just messing with them, if it could figure out all the ins and outs of time travel that easily where it could just pluck them out of the time-stream like that. There's a really applicable quote here from another Trek franchise character regarding the headaches of time travel paradoxes that I'm not going to spoil for you despite REALLY wanting to with regards to the Guardian here.

BrakYeller

OH ALSO my favorite bit of trivia from this episode: they used the Mayberry street set from The Andy Griffith Show for the exterior shots. And it's not the first time the Mayberry set pops up as a background in a Star Trek episode, either, though it is the most obvious thanks to Kirk and Edith Keeler walking by Floyd's Barber Shop.

Robert Raszkowski

Hey KAT - I assume You don't know who Joan Collins is... Ever heard of the "Dynasty"?? I know You are very young lady but... "Dynasty" was huge back in a day. Ah well... What happened to the "guy"? Well - he did not beam up... he dIsintegrated himself XD Bless You x2. KAT-ship flies by...

s8150f

He was. killed when the phaser went off.

KITT 10K

The old "Space, the final frontier.." opening, you're getting closer to getting it memorized girl. Keep it up and you'll have it down soon. 😉

RJ Inkglider

Kat:'I'd like one of those dinky things.' You've got your cellphone Kat. If you want you can probably download a Star Trek sound suite. I'm guessing that the people who designed the first small flip phones were inspired by Star Trek.

RJ Inkglider

This episode was written by the incomparable Harlan Ellison, who was a renowned science fiction author and who was given credit on The Terminator, which Ellison claimed Cameron stole the idea from an Outer Limits episode.

RJ Inkglider

'Have her embrace not... peace.' Lol.

RJ Inkglider

Nice to see a nerd battle resolved amicably.

RJ Inkglider

How did that little phaser not change world history itself? That's a big plot hole they never resolved.

RJ Inkglider

This episode was awesome, and Kat's reaction was great as usual.

RJ Inkglider

Calling him a bum during the Great Depression is making quite a few assumptions. Unemployment was very high and many good people were cast out into the streets into homelessness or worse.

RJ Inkglider

I make the same mistake whenever I say this title. Don't feel badly. "On the edge of tomorrow' just sounds more natural.

Harry S

Good point.

Pirateman

I believe the phaser disintegrated itself as well. I believe the rising tone was a sound of it overloading and 'exploding'

Erich

I'm just bopping along enjoying Kat watching the ep and, as always, am devastated by the whole scene of Edith Keeler's death; Kirk's reaction, McCoy's reaction, Spock's "He knows, doctor. He knows."

Michael Davis

Edith Keeler was played by the great British actress, Joan Collins. Kat, I enjoyed your temporary obsessive with 'The Morning Paper'! The 'Guardian' said that everything would be restored, so the guy that beamed up would also have been restored.