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BadFella

Been waiting all day for this

OLBA FEMI

YO A HOUR FOR A TRAILER

YNGLOCK

Goats 🙌🏽🙌🏽

Agoral 123

The Patreon was worth it let’s go

Max Cornell

let’s goo escape peakcast new vid

SuleySG

WOOOOO!!!

Hashi

HOLY EARLY, I ALREADY KNOW THIS GONNA BE PEAK

Matthew

W episode

Ehan Ali

get jordan lucas on

Luis Esco

Had to stop watching the World Cup to see this

Rolando Garcia

Pretty sure that everyone who wanted to get tickets for opening day also did not sleep. Getting those tickets was a mission.

YNGLOCK

Guys when you wear sick ass shirts/jackets please mention where they are from 🙏🏻 that BND shirt is beautiful

AshyBrown

Yall just saved my commute home

Gary Hampton

To me, this trailer feels so much like Andrew Garfields spidey. In all the best ways. I feel like Tom is growing into the role so perfectly. Which is way better than continuing to cast spidermen who look like they have a Roth IRA set up already.

Manta Ray

All 2026 the boys are grinding and docking let’s goooo

Shosar

I 100% think toms gonna 1 tap scorpions jaw like superior spiderman since he’s not used to his power, which leads to scorpion getting a suit buff

SH1ft3r

Run it, this trailer is peak

TheQcMadKiller

MY GOATS! Hell yes! This movie is going to be peak! Thank you for constantly helping us escape the difficulties of daily life. Y'all have been helping me move past a breakup the past two weeks and I appreciate y'all so much. Keep up the good work.

Stefan Caspers

Guys I was at the trailer launch event and met Tom and Zendaya today. They signed my Funko pop. Can’t believe they did this in the Netherlands. Never thought I’d get a chance like this. I can die peacully now. I told Zendaya that I love the Greatest Showman so my life is kinda complete now

JxkeXD

i really hope it isn’t jean grey ide prefer her playing a mcu original or maybe even shathra maybe would tie into peters power issues also in that story

BigBusta

I think the reason why Jean Grey is hostile toward Peter is because he is probably assisting Tramal Tillmans character with hunting her down due to thinking that she is a bad guy, but eventually finds out that Jean is innocent and teams up with her to take him down. That's just my guess. I think Tillman might be working with an agency that hunts Mutants. It's a classic Marvel Team up misunderstanding.

Koby

WWWW

Tanner Haase

My thing is why would Jean be so awful.... thats gonna leave a bad taste in everyones mouth if Jean is a terrible person all movie just be good at the end...

Jose

Stuck in traffic but luckily i get an hour this wonderful yap session

Gavyn Childers

In the ps5 spiderman 2 game Peter dies via being stabbed by kraven and the symbiote attaches to him and Peter comes back to life

Trevor Reed

Damn I wanna listen but I also dont want to see/know anymore about the movie😭

Clayton Crooke

Great questions, Alex, besides 1 lol.

Agoral 123

To Alex’s point ik it’s not spot on is kravens last hunt cover

Mo Abdelmajid

Symbiote revives Peter in Spider-Man 2 on PS5, Kraven kills him and then the symbiote heals him

IshanPlayzz

Hat guy, how did you forget about Spider-Man NWH post credit scene where tom Hardy's venom left symbiote, why u saying about another planet?

Clayton Crooke

Ned Dies gets resurrected, goes crazy & Eventually becomes the Hob Goblin

NL_ Kado

Tom Hardy Venom left some symbiote goo in Tom’s universe unless everyone forgot

SLOTHZILL4

I think they will kill MJ and thats what turns Ned into hating spiderman and turning into Hobgoblin

frbodis

Marissa Tomei

BigBusta

I don't fully agree with Alex that Peter will die, but I can see a scenario where the symbiote comes to Peter's Aid if he gets fully beaten near death. I remember a piece of the symbiote was left behind from Venom at the end of No Way Home, but I feel they want to pay that off in Secret Wars to give us the iconic cover of issue #8.

Joshp247

I remember seeing a week or so ago that test audiences didn’t respond well to the ending of brand new day. The theory of them killing off Peter may not be so far fetched.

Hobee Nguyen

peter dying in bnd and coming back in secret wars is actually a very popular theory right now

Brennen F

Very torn about the villain situation here. For a while I’ve been thinking tombstone was the main villain since his casting is confirmed and they haven’t shown him in any trailers, plus the Lego set leak, but now I’m not so sure. Jean grey is cool but I really don’t want her to be a big part of this movie it’ll take away from some actual spider-man villains I think need to shine more. I have full faith in the movie, but I’m starting to get pretty worried about all the different moving pieces. TASM 2 is great, but one of the reasons it feels like a cluster-fuck is bc there’s not really a main villain… we’ll see what happens!

Kris Blume

you also need to remember the symbiote is in the main universe and is on earth. they showed tom hardy in a post credit scene and after he gets teleported away theres a little bit of the symbiote left behind so its very possible

Zach Brillante

I wouldn’t be surprised if Spiderman dies at the end to hulk or the villain but gets revived by the Symbiote like in Kravens last hunt

Victor Arroyo

Dude the last 2 minutes actually had me crying laughing

Jose H

The larp being exposed in real time is hilarious 🤣 @venom theory

Arthur’s Reviews

Yall bring up what if they make a joke regarding the “suns getting real low big guy” but they already made that joke in Thor: Ragnorok

Jorge Sanger

I think they might buff Spiderman and decrease his uppercut cool down. Maybe give him a new team up with punisher

kastaway

i think alex might’ve been referring to that one comic panel where spider man comes out of the grave wearing the black suit

julian

andrew i’m appalled on the lack of knowledge not knowing spider-man is brought back to life by the symbiote creating arguably the most iconic spider-man comic panel of all time that is, Web of Spider-man 1987 #32. 🫩💔

Jorge Sanger

They did the tom "dying" in infinity war tho

GermanSTL

Yea but everyone knew he’d come back cause far from home was confirmed… there’s no confirmation he’s in secret wars

Jay Bingcang

Peter dying at the end of new day would be perfect. Have the symbiotic revive him in the post credit scene with just his hand coming out of the grave with the black suit. Leading him into secret wars to have the black suit

Jorge Sanger

I thought he was confirmed for secret wars. I mean u kinda have to have him in there

Jud Bowe

Hat guy is cooking with the spider man death thing literally super famously happens with the whole “Here lies Spider-Man” 🤷🏼‍♂️

Berik Amaya

Another reason for gray hulk is … Toys 🤷🏽‍♂️

Ryan B

I don’t buy that Sadie sink is Jean grey. 1) why is Jean grey being introduced in a Spider-Man movie just before doomsday which features the fox xmen & a presumed multiversal reboot after secret wars at which point we will get the announced xmen reboot. 2) why is she shown to be antagonistic? The only bad Jean grey is dark Phoenix or Madelyne Pryor either of which are too convoluted to include in this movie. 3) I believe she’s actually Typhoid Mary and the Jean grey rumours are either fan speculation or false rumours released to throw people off. Typhoid is a daredevil villain and he is likely to appear, backed by the prison scenes, the hand’s presence and to some extent punishers presence. Jean Grey does not make sense to appear.

Brudduhk

Idk ghostbusters ghost has a shot at Venoms eating out ability

Austin Lang

Started off the ep talking about the trailer ended the ep talking about ass eating classic episode

Tyler Bradstreet

This podcast reminds me of ATSV because it should've ended on 10 different occasions

Toe Shovel

I could see Peter “dying” then the after credit scene is the goo finding him and we see Peter’s eyes open from being revived, since in the after credit scene in no way home tom hardy is saying he needs to go find this Peter park in New York, so the goop that gets left on the bar has the knowledge of this

Moises Arjona

BOYS PLS WATCH EPIC ON YOUTUBE, ESPECIALLY WITH HAT GUYS HORRENDOUS ODYSSEY TAKE

Logan

I do think they will kill Peter and give him the Symbiot in the post credit of this movie or doomsday to then bring him in for secret wars because symbiot peter is really strong and will help the get the push to actually defeat doom and after secret wars then make Eddie Brock get it and be one of the next spider man villains also could have a small chance of then actually using knull as the next big bad but probably not tho

mal51

GOOD MORNING AMERICAAAA

Mike T

The better example of Alex’s “gray hulk” comparison would’ve been Evan Peters as Quicksilver in WandaVision. Strictly fan service decision there. Made little to no impact on story as far as I remember

Mike T

Secret wars type of ordeal probably considering the comic origin

Marbin Rodriguez

Standing ovation for Alex in this episode 👏. Me and my brother had the same thought. Spiderman death could be a great moment to make fans be hyped for Secret Wars even more if Doomsday is a mid movie. An end credit scene in Doomsday with Symbiote Spiderman rising from his grave. Absolutely Peak Cinema!!!!!

WE Russell

“I want venom to eat my ass” - Hat guy 2026

Ricky wit da Blicky except the Blicky is a bong

Alex is a Larper 😂 I’m just playin I love you Alex. But for real brother Daredevil and Spiderman villains crossover all of the time and one of those villains is the hand. Yes they are a primary antagonist of Daredevil but they cross over with Spidey too. One of those times is Spiderman shadowland issue 1 . Also spidey teams up with daredevil to fight them in the 80s and like 10 -15 years ago in the 2010s era too. Also, you may not know this Alex but if you look at the first trailer, there are a bunch of shots in slow motion where Peter is fighting or tangling with bad guys and each and every one of those is a recreation of a specific comic book panel cover from a specific issue of Spider-Man comics so I think a lot of the fan service that is being done in the movie even story wise is for those of us who have read these comics for years and years, as well as trying to appease people who maybe don’t read comics, but like the movies. It’s a fine line to walk, but I think they’re gonna do it.

Ghosty

might be the funniest last sentence to any podcast ever

Mike T

At this point, Andrew not knowing about the symbiote revival is pretty on character for the TASM glazer

Mike T

Throw a post credit scene of Miles reacting to Spider-Man’s death and say “Spider-Man will return in _____” It will create conversation regarding his return, and leave it ambiguous to which “Spider-Man” is returning. It creates more conversation and hype for Doomsday/Secret Wars.

PocketChucks

Why does Patreon not like VPN's? I can't watch with it turned on.

BigBusta

It didn't revive him from death; he was buried with the suit he made from cloth that resembled it because he liked the symbiote suit design. He wasn't dead when he was buried, he was shot with a tranquilizer dart. He was rejuvenated from near death in Spider-Man life story written by Chip Zydarsky tho

Aaron Doug Hunter

Andrew's joke to end this ep is just genius, I'm genuinely impressed he came up with that off the dome

Kris Blume

Also why don’t people consider the idea that Ned remembers being friends with spiderman but not who he is so he’s searching for him, and then once Peter finally comes back into their lives he gets MJ killed which turns Ned into hobgoblin as someone who had a relationship with spiderman but then after leaving him for years he comes back and gets his only friend killed and he uses his intelligence to build all his gear and whatnot

Luke Rookis

Only like halfway thru episode so I apologize if yall say this. What if Ezra’s character is Mr. Negative and he has Jean grey trapped and is using her to manipulate Peter Parker

Safe3126

I’m so disappointed Andrew doesn’t know kravens last hunt

Holden

alex’s shirt is sick

Randy Luke

We need an explanation as to why Hulk would back track into the rage monster version when we thought it has been under control. Also are we just sweeping under the rug that he has a son? lol I hope BND explains things

PlatinumAC

isnt the puppet master villain theory like actually what it is….like i thought that was implied by the synopsis of the movie.

PlatinumAC

dont fw people like u who pretend to have ball knowledge of shit like this. He isnt revived by the symbiote in that story. That is just a black cloth suit 🤦‍♂️

PlatinumAC

yeah but that suit is cloth, not the symbiote

Calvin Kennedy

“CUZ ID BE LONG” Alex I’m cackling

Calvin Kennedy

When I think pre media training Escape Pod, I think snorting lines of salt

Calvin Kennedy

“You’ve gotta think about it practically” - Andrew talking about an alien monster eating his ass by the way

Kuranes

I’m normally a hat guy dick rider, but what is he talking about? How could he think Spider-Man dies at the end of this? If Spider-Man is dead at the end of Brand New Day, I’ll eat my hat. None of the themes we’ve seen in trailers is giving Spider-Man death at all lol

Nick Gomez

just a reminder, in GOTG1 Groot sacrificed himself for the group

gavin richard

No one is thinking Sadie Sink is Typhoid Mary? She really could be.

Tom Dempsey

Considering no film has done the symbiote and Peters relationship with it properly imo, his death plus the symbiote reviving him and giving us the Holland symbiote suit would be PEAK

Dimonic

Just the last conversation made paying for the patron worth it forever 😂

George Trombetta

guys the part of the symbiote is in the mcu! Remember when venom went back to his own universe in no way home, some of it was left behind in the bar!!! Alex theory is coming true!!!

McBacca

I can’t wait when Spider-Man dies at the end and Andrew loves it lmao

Diamondarmour5

You guys saved me I done lsd last night and nearly had a bad trip but you guys saved my bacon I love yous😍😍

Ethan

Just joined the Patreon boys

KnownLex

Did venom not revive Eddie when riot killed him ? 😏👀

KnownLex

Which in turn was the whole reason knull was after him because it activated the codex (which was the key to his release from klyntar)

Aiden Peasley

Can the venom symbiote not be a early scene entering his bloodstream and we just don’t see the actual black suit till secret wars? Would that not help explain the mutation? Venom suit Spiderman is definitely favorite and I think it supports alex’s theory. He may die, but the symbiote takes over after and he returns in black suit for secret wars. Obviously healing properties he takes back over after or during the movie

Ty Will

It be pretty cool if they use the mutation suppression as a reason why hulk is grey maybe

Lukas Buchwald

Alex were’d you cop that shirt from? It’s heatttt

John Gill

Extra hour episode for the trailer, we never lose

Collin Power

Andrew. You 100% were coming off a bit condescending. Not even hating. But when you said you were being hyperbolic and joking… yeah maybe it came off like that after a while. But initially it came off pretty clear that you were annoyed and just not down with Hat Guy’s idea(spiderman dying) at all. Just providing feedback love the pod!

quatro

Peter dying isnt that far fetched. but I don't think they will kill him to end the movie.

Yanniel Jordan

The venom conversation is peak comedy 😂😂

Don T Beacunt

Andrew doesn’t want the ending to be redundant, but also doesn’t want Spiderman to die (which never happens) so that he could come back in SECRET WARS with the SYMBIOTE SUIT. How does that not sound hype? Lol

maxb

SPIDER-MAN IS RESURRECTED ALL THE TIME ANDREW IS DENSE

Jens Sirviö

The villain threatens to hurt MJ, but if no one knows that Peter parker is spiderman and no connection between Peter parker and MJ can be made. Why does the new villain make that threat?

Egg man

"Kraven's last hunt" for those wondering

kastaway

oh damn really i didn’t know that

Phillip Harrison

I think the trailer makes us think its alot going on but by hour 1 the plot will be clear

Kamrin West

As a straight guy. Chris Pratt was hotter in Parks and Rec.

Chael Shirley

Doesn’t Electra’s eyes turn back when the hand makes her there whatever it was in that pop thingy. It’s been a while since I’ve watched it

waterbottletime

My first patreon episode! Glad to be here fellas!

Spartzns

When do we really see Andrew do science stuff? Like aside from the lizard formula (which he had his dad’s notes, but was still very impressive) he doesn’t really showcase his intelligence. In tasm 2 he had to watch YT videos and get Gwen’s help to fix the electro frying his web shooters issue.

Pock

Sounds like hat guy saw the same tweet I did about the symbiote bringing Peter back to life at the end of the movie

Vindicta

They don’t seem to remember the post credit scene of NWH where venom leaves the symbiote

NFDOOM

I think you forgot yoshi, he would be the best venomized character to eat ass 🤷

Joelito

the symbiote is already in the universe, it already knows who spider man is. it could seek him out and finds peter dead at the end of the movie or a post-credit scene and revives him and recreates the Kraven's Last Hunt cover. And it's a cbm they could make up whatever reason as to why it revives Peter. it doesn't have to be 1 to 1 to any already established lore. It is entirely within the realm of possibility. or this whole idea could be saved for secret wars or a doomsday post credit scene or something

Its Not Time TV

So they’re basically turning hulk to the Lizard? 😂

Hamsandwich Goddess

Alex is cooking. Theres the famous comic pannel with peter breaking out his own grave because he has the symbiote

skeebop

tom and zendaya did an interview and tom said something like “hulk is green” and zendaya said “is he?” soo what does that meannn

Doombox77

Did anyone else notice or think there were a few shots in the trailer that looked like Tom wasn’t wearing a face shell while in his suit in a couple shots

DJ

Marisa Tomei as Scream can have my credit cards

Vaughn Joaquin

"shout out Tera Strong, please come on the podcast" what if we didn't invite her? Maybe? Please?

Logan Kreiling

Just joined, mostly for this episode! But, I watched everything on YouTube so it's time to come here! 🔥

Jack Last

you have got to stop estrogen screaming in the mic every video i can listen to it as i sleep

Phillip Harrison

Taking all bets on ned getting hob goblin Easter eggs thru out the movie IG @46gazi dm for all wagers!

layton jacobs

No it doesn’t he was tranquilized not dead and it was the cloth black suit not the symbiote

Jud Bowe

right i’m just saying I cld see it happening as a nod to that and them using the symbiot to do it not a one to one to the comic but they do stuff like that all the time where they use comic ideas and MCU them up if that makes sense 🤷🏼‍♂️

Jacob Nixon

Peter dying at the end, the last 5 minutes of the movie introduces Miles Morales getting bit by a spider and THEN at the end credit scene it shows Oscorp recovering Peter‘s body and putting him in a cryogenic tube and the very last shot slowly moves to a vile of Symbiot. Peak

Jonathon Strandell

Thinking it’s completely impossible that at some point in this movie spiderman dies and gets resurrected is an opinion I’d expect from someone who just got into superhero movies

Vin

The most iconic comic panel oat is when he came out of the grave

jahmir smith

Bro kravens last hunt symbiote brought em back to life through the grave

Nicholas Bruno

I usually love Andrew and always agree with him but this video I feel like he’s very far off with everything today

Josiah Ruffin

U still get the point tho of what he’s trying to say

Charlie Smith

Peter could 1000% die in this film, I’m inclined to say he won’t but it’s definitely not ridiculously unlikely

BrainiacJack

There was actually people saying they went to an unfinished test screening and claimed Peter died, so I thought Alex was basing it off that at first Andrew’s gotta be introduced to web of shadows for symbiote black cat Those last like 10 minutes with the Chris Pratt and venom talk, to the tongue talk, peak escape pod

TheBatman002

Would killing Peter be either lazy/unoriginal by way of: 1. They already killed Peter and brought him back. 2. Alex's explanation of him being dead and needing to be brought back sounds a little Dawn of Justice like. I feel like the only thing that would make sense to me is if he dies and is immediately brought back kind of like in the wolverine

Hunter Velicer

We see Tom making two of the villain cures in the school lab when the others only had one, and tom fixed the AI in doc oc before the apartment fight. So he technically healed 3 of the 5 and Andrew just had to recreate what Gwen made in tasm 1. Tom is definitely the smartest.

Judah

hat guy killing the fly sent me😭💀

Shawn Ouellette

It’s a little cgiy 🤓 (love you Andrew but damn)