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🖖Star Trek DS9 6x17-18 Full + Watch-Along (Patreon)

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6x17 Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night 6x18 Inquisition

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This week we finally learn more about Kira's mother and then Bashir is challenged to prove he's not a spy. Engage! 🖖

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Senzu Bean

Section 31, baby! Love how they screwed with Bashir's thinking. 'Wrongs Darker Than Death' is also a brain spinner, for Nira. Good to see Dukat again. You might recognize Luther Sloan (William Sadler) who played a (small) part in the masterpieces 'Shawshank redemption' and 'The green mile'.

John Sullivan

Still in peak DS9. Can't wait for next Week.. 🥳 🖖

HeWhoLooksSkyward

You're right about Dukat's motives, Jen. It is about power, but he's also a classic narcissist. In his mind, "winning her heart" (sarcasm mode on) proves he was right all along.

ParallaxNick

Ah Section 31. The albatross around Trek's neck for the following 30 years. An idea so cool a generation of writers would run it into the ground.

Adam Harris

I'm not even convinced it was a cool idea in the first place. It's always felt a bit out of place in the world of Starfleet, as I doubt they would allow an organisation like that to exist.

Henchman Twenty1

As ruthless as they are, everyone knows about the Cardasian Obsidian Order and the Romulan Tal Shiar. Almost NOBODY knows about the existance of Section 31. When this episode aired it was considered to be one of the darkest episodes of Trek to date with this little revelation.

HeWhoLooksSkyward

I do get a kick out of the fact that Odo isn't even remotely surprised. He just sees it as smart tradecraft. It's also great to see William Sadler as Sloane, who played the stuttering inmate Heywood in "The Shawshank Redemption".

Desmond

In "Wrongs Darker than Death or Night", the concept of "comfort women" is based on something real; across wide swaths of Asia under Japanese occupation in ww2, a "comfort woman" system was in place where tens of thousands of young women in occupied countries were forced into prostitution and slavery, in service to the Japanese army. Even 80-90 years later, there are still feelings of hatred toward the Japanese because of their conduct in occupied countries. It doesn't help that Japan has never really truly reckoned with, or apologized for, the things they did at that time. That's where the term originates, and what this episode is based on. As for Dukat, and whether he truly believes that Meru was in "love" with him, it's a good question. Dukat is capable of tremendous feats of self-delusion.

Joel

Dukat isn't interested in Kira as a romantic partner, you're right about that, I would characterize it more as a desire to have her essentially worship him, along with every other Bajoran. If there was any one character that I think would fit the clinical diagnosis of a malignant narcissist, it would be Dukat.

Joel

Section 31 has entered the chat... be careful, those boys are sneaky...

Henchman Twenty1

He also had a role in Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey, but Jen hasn't reacted to that yet so I'll say no more.

The_Truth

Introduction of Section 31

Sense Departed

I'm very excited for the episodes coming next week, 6x19 and 6-20, two of the very best episodes in the series in my opinion.

Alexis Vorian

Guys I'm very excited for next week.

Julian San

Damn, I love Inquisition! It’s SOOOO DS9.

Senzu Bean

Stephen McHattie in the pale moonlight has such a good voice. He killed it in Pontypool (2008).

Sykonee

Thing about 'early Dukat' is, in his mind, he really does believe himself to be a benevolent overseer, trying to do the Occupation 'right' - getting the Bajorans to respect and appreciate his actions. Never mind Cardassians had no right being there in the first place. If that includes treating 'comfort women' better than the typical soldier, he'll go to that length as well. It's still all to satisfy his own ego though - that he's the hero of the story. 'Inquisition' mostly seems like the show-runners are acknowledging some of the plot holes that have happened in the past, at least until the final twist reveal of Section 31. Okay, cool 'moral grey' idea for sure, but some of those plot holes *still* exist, y'know...

Desmond

And yes, you are right, "Inquisition" is the introduction of Section 31. And yes, there IS a Section 31 movie, but at least in my humble opinion, you don't need to worry about that for a long time, if ever. 😂 Great guest appearance by William Sadler as Sloan. He really nailed all the necessary subtleties.

Desmond

Sadler is a great character actor who has been in many, many things. Also was the bad guy in Die Hard 2. And yeah, Section 31 is more underground than the Tal Shiar or Obsidian Order, simply because the citizenry of the Federation would not tolerate the existence of such an organization...if they knew about it.

Julian San

I know Move Along Home has its reputation but Wrongs Darker than Death or Night gives me a sick feeling. And thank goodness Nana Visitor put her foot down about how they WANTED to end the episode.

William Rosmer

dukat's weakness has always been his ego. he needs to be loved by those he considers beneath him (basically everyone), but he also doesn't really know how to earn that. this episode makes his entire blatant sexual obsession with kira even creepier.

David Brown

William Sadler (Section 31 Agent Sloan) was also the main bad guy in Die Hard 2 and Death/ The Grim Reaper in the Bill & Ted movies.

Weapon26

I'm sorry to say, the section 31 stuff (and mostly star trek in general) are not great. =( I'm sure others might disagree, but it's not the same thing with everything past Enterprise. Of course, it's totally up to you though. I will say, with all this.... just have fun! XD

Weapon26

Haha! He was amazing in Bill and Ted!!

Geoff S.

It’s one of the biggest obstacles between Japan and Korea being closer to this day.

Brent Justice

Absolutely IGNORE the Section 31 movie. It has nothing to do with the Star Trek you know. It's part of NuTrek, Kurtzman era, and requires knowledge of the new shows. However, it's just bad, and a huge step away from what Star Trek is. It should be avoided. Do yourself a favor, ignore it, and anything from Kurtzman, period. Stop at Star Trek Enterprise, and go no further, you'll thank me. But truly, do not watch the Section 31 movie.

Summer

Everyone is talking about the first episode next week but you will like the second best

Summer

her brothers were likely killed by Cardassians as young adults

Real Raw News

For those interested in Section 31, there is an audio drama that came out a few decades ago called the "Section 31 files" on darkerprojects. com. It's non-canon, of course, but the first 3 seasons are decent. after that they swtiched to "nu-trek" and they went to crap.

phillip giroux

A classic abuser trait "see, I didn't torture you as badly as I could have, you should be grateful for my kindness "

Dean

I think it works as an antagonist to our protagonists' ideals. I won't spoil and just say Modern Trek did a huge disservice to the narrative thematic purpose in the new era and it just got progressively worse from there

Dean

I think I can speak for the majority of Trek fans and say that you don't need to bother with the Section 31 movie. It adds nothing, you'd have to watch it in context post-Discovery, and it really isn't good. You have so much more on the upcoming docket of potential reactions that would be more worth your time and effort.

Diljabar

It's interesting how you approached the first episode from a time travel story angle. In fact, they have referenced in the past at least once that there was an assassination attempt on Dukat's life early in his tenure as Prefect. Was this it? Was it because of Nerys? Was it something else? Would it have happened anyway? At the end of the day, those questions are irrelevant; the Prophets work in mysterious ways...

Preaching to the Horse's Mouth (edited)

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2026-11-09 05:00 Both these eps come off as a little blah to me. There's nothing that I really dislike about either, I like the concepts, I can't really pinpoint anything wrong with the execution, but somehow they both seem to land a little flat and I'm really not sure why. Good chance it's a "me" thing and doesn't really have anything to do with the actual eps. I think Dukat believes everything he says, but that's also what makes him a master manipulator. Both those things can be true at once and it's that contradiction that makes him both likeable and creepy all at the same time.
2026-11-08 19:32 Both these eps come off as a little blah to me. There's nothing that I really dislike about either, I like the concepts, I can't really pinpoint anything wrong with the execution, but somehow they both seem to land a little flat and I'm really not sure why. Good chance it's a "me" thing and doesn't really have anything to do with the actual eps. They just seem a little... anticlimactic. I think Dukat believes everything he says, but that's also what makes him a master manipulator. Both those things can be true at once and it's that contradiction that makes him both likeable and creepy all at the same time.

Both these eps come off as a little blah to me. There's nothing that I really dislike about either, I like the concepts, I can't really pinpoint anything wrong with the execution, but somehow they both seem to land a little flat and I'm really not sure why. Good chance it's a "me" thing and doesn't really have anything to do with the actual eps. They just seem a little... anticlimactic. I think Dukat believes everything he says, but that's also what makes him a master manipulator. Both those things can be true at once and it's that contradiction that makes him both likeable and creepy all at the same time.

Summer

Just a season and a half and hopefully Voyager, this is about the time where DS9 begins to lose some interest for me, I will of course watch to the end but I am excited for Voyager

Real Raw News

Correct. The S31 movie is nu-trek garbage

Muddyn

nutrek, as a whole, should just be ignored really.

Chaos T

Germany rightfully gets a lot of attention for the atrocities committed but it does seem Japan's crimes go under the radar. China lost the second most people in WWII (15-20 million) behind the Soviet Union. I've often thought about the reasons why these crimes go ignored. One of them is the direct openness of how German citizens dealt with it directly after WWII where Germany and its historians viewed what happened as their great shame. With Japan, they hid a lot of things under the rug, destroyed lots of evidence and didn't take responsibility. It took until the 1980's for inhuman institutions such as Unit 731 to be revealed and that was done from an international effort to investigate the claims. Historians such as Daqing Yang have argued that "Japan destroyed sensitive documents to a degree perhaps unprecedented in history.". Japan being the #1 piece on the board during the Cold War was also a huge culprit. The US wanted a military and geopolitical presence there to safeguard against the Soviet Union and later China. They needed a quick ally, and many felt going after war crimes in a Nuremberg-like way would not help bring the country of Japan together and on "our side". There is also evidence the United States purposely hid war crimes and destroyed evidence of such. There's a lot of things the US has done in the past that are pretty horrible however that cover-up is one of the worst imo.

Desmond

I find Lower Decks fun, and season 3 of Picard has some good stuff, but overall, yeah, it's mostly garbage.

Brent Justice

Yes, I could comment more about it, but to not spoil or give other expectations for Jen, I'll refrain. I ultimately do want her to see these replies and understand that anything after Star Trek: Enterprise is not the same Star Trek. It was produced by Alex Kurtzman and generally is not very good, or well received by fans. Anything with his name on it. I don't want to go into any more detail about the shows than that. Though I'd love to chat with Star Trek fans about it, and I do so in many of my Star Trek Online videos on YT.

Chaos T

Section 31 is a damn good wrinkle in The Federation and shows they will do very much 20th century skullduggery spycraft to maintain Utopia. The protection of Utopia at high costs is an ongoing theme within DS9. However, I do agree with many here who believe the Section 31 evolution in the Trek franchises is just not that great. It would become problematic in some of the storylines in future Trek series. The idea is good but the execution of those ideas are a bit sloppy at times. That said, "Inquisition" is a really good episode of Trek imo.

Derek Whittom

I always harp on it, but The Federation is the most militarily aggressive and ruthless polity in Star Trek. And its because they project peace, good vibes and weakness. Mostly to lull their rivals into wars they cant and dont win. Or they start those wars themselves. Their tactics are subversion, cooption and hegemony. Their tools are their enormous fleet, their technological supremacy, and their Super Obsidian Order that no one knows about. They play the same game as the Dominion. The Federation is just better at it.

Justin Bartlett

I enjoy the ds9 section 31. I never quite understood some viewers resistance to the idea. Star Trek has had plenty of evil captains and admirals. You can look at section 31 and think, "what if all there were evil captains, admirals, etc but they were smarter and did things more covertly?"

Adam Harris

Star Trek was envised by Gene Roddenberry to be about a futuristic utopian society. Sure, they still have criminals and other problems, but it's not so widespread that it would require a secretive agency to investigate. Plus, who polices the police?

Justin Bartlett

sorry, i didnt mean to say Section 31 was built to investigate badmirals. i am saying section 31 was founded by badmirals. Would Gene have approved? not sure. his vision of the future changed between ToS and TNG. I think Section 31 is a great foil for our heroes and a great evolution of the badmiral. i dont think we are supposed to be comfortable with it. our heroes are not.

Sense Departed

ugh, dont wish the section 31 movie on her, we dont want to give her cancer.