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Talking Mission Hill - Pilot (or The Douchebag Aspect) With Matthew Jay (Patreon)

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2020-04-22 04:00:02
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2020-04-24 22:08:13
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2026-06
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This week we're beginning our new Patreon-exclusive podcast miniseries, Talking Mission Hill! And we're sharing the first episode with all of you, featuring our Mission Hill expert/pal Matthew Jay (The Deep End, Cartoons 101) as a guest! We celebrate how Simpsons' executive producers Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein created the ultimate late '90s slacker cartoon, how the first episode sets everything up, and how The WB bungled the entire thing from the debut broadcast. Learn all about it in this episode, then sign up for $5 on Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons to hear us discuss every other episode of the series for the next few months!

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Boyd Adkins IV

This is what I have been waiting for.

Cody C.

So exciting! As the “cool” but obvious loser older brother that moved to 3 different cities as their hipster waves crashed, I’ve always identified with Andy. Cannot wait for the unemployed two parter. This has been a godsend while I recover from (a bad but comparatively minor) case of Covid. Love the show guys

Paul Serna

Is mission hill streaming anywhwre?

Vulpes

I'm in the same situation as Bob (though the Canadian half), and the "some people just want to live in a better country" line is so relatable.

ShyRanger

My family always had a strong stance AGAINST the sheltered behavior for drinking. They still made sure I followed the 21-year rule in public because the law is still the law sadly, but when I was 18 and at home they would always be like "Hey try this" or " want a little bit of this." Their mindset was that trying keep young adults completely sheltered from drinking would result in them shifting WAY too far into it once they got away. "Now that I'm away form my parents I'm gonna drink as much as I can all the time" rather than easing into it and having the notion of moderation.

NervousWrex

Love this show, so glad you guys are covering it. +1 for the Hippos shoutout, especially the album Heads Are Gonna Roll. Everybody Ska!

Lucas Dooley

Well, you guys got me to watch The Critic, and it looks like you’ve dragged me in for another one. Now for me to watch it all in two days, then wait 3 months for you guys to finish the series.

Matt Bixler! Hello!

The animation of Jim jumping into the table is one of the biggest laughs I've ever gotten from a TV show. Great episode, can't wait for the rest of the series.

Zachary Nie

Bob, thanks for name checking The Hippos. They were on heavy rotation in my ska days.

Drew Waranis

This was even better coming right after the 𝐹𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑘𝑦 𝐷𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑜 Season 1 episode of Matt Jay's [𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑒𝑒𝑝 𝑠𝑤𝑖𝑚] podcast! Also, loved your shout-out to 𝐺𝑎𝑦𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝐸𝑝𝑖𝑠𝑜𝑑𝑒 𝐸𝑣𝑒𝑟! And big-ups to my local, surviving, free weekly: https://www.independent.com/ !

Daran

I'm so thrilled you guys finally get to cover this show! Mission Hill has always been one of my favorite shows ever. I always identified with it in a lot of the white-bread ways you guys described and the show was very formative for my tastes in animation, viewing and career-wise in general. All the original work I ever did had an undercurrent, either intentional or not from this show. I first saw this show when it reran on Adult Swim when I was 13. Liked how you guys mentioned how Andy should have been the one getting Kevin into music. My half-brother is 13 years older than me and when I was around the age this show was airing, he gave me tons of ripped CDs and hard drives of music. I'm still a huge fan of bands like Cake and TMBG because of that. Quick anecdote with other staff that worked on this show! Dave Filoni of Clone Wars, also carried on from this show onto Avatar: The Last Airbender. He's an alumni of my college and spoke there in 2009 while I was attending. I asked him in the seminar about Mission Hill and he was surprised anyone would bring it up but was excited to talk about how much he enjoyed his time on the show. I believe (it's been a while) he mentioned being involved in storyboarding the opening credits. And because I've always obsessed over fictional layout, Posey's room is located to the right of the bathroom door. It's a windowless room, like Jim and Kevin's. You only see it in the SAT episode, when she is advertising massage in the paper. I always loved their loft apartment and know I could never afford to live in one.

KaiserBeamz

This is one of those shows that I saw on TV on rare ocassions, but never became a full-blown fan until I binge watched the entire series on YouTube in college like I did with Duckman and The Critic.

Steven Babb

I'm 4 min to the podcast and I must relate; Bob, my best friend growing up forced me to listen to music he recorded onto tapes from the radio - all the 90's alternative hits. To be honest, I didn't really get it.

Joe Hodgson

There was something very off-putting about this show for me when it first premiered that caused me to turn up my nose and ignore it. To be fair, I wasn't invested in much TV at the time and would rather be playing video games, but I obviously regretted my past choice when I finally gave it a chance on Cartoon Network. I was a bit disappointed though to find the Mission Hill depicted in the show doesn't really resemble the Mission Hill of Boston. Though to be fair, that place kind of sucks anyway so I suppose it's for the better. This podcast series is a good excuse to revisit the show.

Lockerus

Loved this show back when it was on Teletoon’s late night programming block. I never knew that Bill and Josh were involved with this show back in the day, but looking back on it, it definitely makes sense. Really looking forward to the rest of the series! Also you were totally right, Kevin would be “owning the libs with facts and logic” if this show were set in the last five years.

twistedmentat

In Canada we claim we have girlfriends and boyfriends in England. But god damn I love Mission Hill, it hit me right at the perfect time. I was not a complete dorko like Kevin but not a complete wasteoid like Andy. That loft, amazing. That thing could cost thousands of dollars these days, and probably not even inhabited just as an investment.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Given the fact that I've been listening to Talking Simpsons since day one, I've heard a lot about Mission Hill, but I'd never actually watched it until it was time to do so for this miniseries, and so far I'm having a blast. My DVD set has yet to arrive (supposed to come by next Friday), so I watched this episode on YouTube, not knowing about the music rights issues, but I think the version I watched had the correct, original licensed music? Not totally sure though, and in any case, I'll have to check out if I can find the original versions of other eps since you guys pointed out stuff like the "Everybody Hurts" bit that will just make no sense to me on DVD without context. Looking forward to digging into more of this!

Animals in Motion

Hey, kind of an OT question, but I remember Matthew Jay mentioning a animation documentary that he recommended, does anyone know which one it was? This was on the "The Day the Violence Died" Talking Simpsons ep, but I've been scrolling around like crazy on that ep trying to find the mention of a documentary, without luck.

Dan Vincent

My favorite Mission Hill visual jokes are the dotted lines from eyes, especially when there's daggers involved. They never fail to make me laugh.

Dan Vincent
>>35743457

I think a good question is "Were you the Kevin or the Andy in your brotherly relationship?" My oldest brother and I have a similar gap as Andy and Kevin - he's eight years older than I, and he was my cool GenX older brother with me as the Millenial dorko. It wasn't as adversarial, but I see the parallels. Though I realized as I grew up from a teen into a twentysomething that I changed from a Kevin into an Andy so gradually I didn't even notice. Blame college!

Micah

I listened to Ska back when Madness invented it

nina matsumoto

Bang is a Korean surname so you had it right the first time