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Talking Mission Hill - Andy and Kevin Make a Friend (or One Bang for Two Brothers) (Patreon)

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2020-05-15 04:01:00
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What if they made jokes about Star Wars on TV? A commonplace concept in 2020, but 20 years ago, sitcoms rarely skewered legitimate nerd culture. So please keep this in mind as we explore an episode of Mission Hill where a shared love interest between the French brothers comes to a head with a series of jokes that were seriously cutting edge in Y2K. Plus: an important lesson about taking knives stuck in your head seriously. Now quit fussing' and get ready for this week's podcast!

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Lockerus

You can probably blame the proliferation of alt-right attitudes among capital-g Gamers on Steve Bannon who was the CEO of a WoW gold farming company and correctly identified the opportunity to push a bunch of white supremacist hooey on a ton of impressionable kids to form the base of the current “right wing nerd” group.

Joe Hodgson

Oh man, can you feel a memory? The mere mention of Diablo II at the beginning of the pod just conjures up the memory of playing that game in the summer heat alongside the heat generated by a PC tower and tube monitor. My "juices" must have been baked into that desk chair by the end of it all as I'd play that game long into the night despite the intense discomfort. This episode, more than others, highlights how fun it can be to watch a bunch of shows all made around the same time by people of similar ages because of the content overlap. Family Guy did a Bob Ross gag in its first season as well and provided some nerd humor via Peter ("I never risk the Fett-man") that was not quite main stream, but not really a deep pull either. Not that I'm comparing Mission Hill to Family Guy in terms of quality of the program, but it makes me want to watch a bunch 99/2000 shows for more overlap beyond just the Willy Wonka parody seemingly every show did around the same time. I don't really like it when cartoons hire white people to portray minorities and you guys rightfully point that out here with Tina. It also sucks when actors are hired to use a high, nasally, voice to portray little people. Just hire an actual little person, please.

dave s

The animation gag with Gus grinning after the girl calls him The Cat in the Hat is one of my favorite things in this entire series. If you watch closely, you'll see that only Gus' mouth is animated - everything from his nose up is the same whether he's cranky or delighted.

mavrick

sounds like he's attempting to say "la je ç'est feit" - which, as bob said, is a *really rough* translation of "it's a done deal" - I could be wrong though.

Matt Bixler! Hello!

I promise this isn't a nit-pick, but did you use the DVD rips for the clips in this episode? I only ask because I remember them having really weird audio mixing where the voice track would often be drowned out by music or sound effects, and that's how the clip audio felt in this episode. I don't base this on anything except my own gut-check, but it feels like something went wrong when someone had to go in and replace all the music tracks. Again, I promise this isn't me complaining, just an entirely different kind of rudeness where I'm insisting you pull back the curtain on your show production!

ShyRanger

Hey Henry. So this podcast episode had references to both Jay Michael Strazinski and possible stories where Superman acted out of character. Did you know those two are linked. One of JMS' probably worst stories was a Superman one called Grounded. Basically after the big New Krypton stuff, JMS wanted to do a story of Superman trying to rekindle himself by walking across America. Good idea, but instead we got Supes giving some very questionable philosophy about being a hero, giving a VERY bad speech to a jumping woman about what life is, and at one point being forcing drug dealers to move to a different location (rather than stopping them fully) and when asked about it he basically says "We can only protect ourselves HERE and THERE has to protect itself." It's really badly done and shows that people can really not get Superman in ways aside from just him killing.

Eric Nagurney

Part of me feels like you guys are too harsh to Andy, but my biggest takeaway from my Mission Hill rewatch is that I now find Kevin one of the most personally repulsive TV characters, so maybe I'm biased.

nina matsumoto

I love Tina using her hairband to be Geordi because I used to do that in grade school!! I would put my hairband down to my eyes exactly like that and say "look, I'm that guy from Star Trek!" (I had never actually watched the show; I just knew him from osmosis). I can tell you from experience you can still see enough to get around when you do that. Try placing two fingers horizontally right in front of your eyes -- you can still see above and below them.

DrKarate

In a better world spawn would have been good and Michael Jai White would have been a fucking super star (but hopefully would still do black dynamite). Also y'all forgot about the Tank Girl movie but don't worry, everybody did.

Chris Dobson

This is another episode where the Andy/Kevin stuff is just generally significantly worse than the rest of the episode. I like the drunken bonding thing, but the rest of their "competition" is just tiresome already, and Kevin is just such an unpleasant person I can kind of understand why WB had cold feet. I wonder if the series going forward wouldn't have been better served by focusing on the expanded world of 90's Hipster types, the same way King of the Hill would feature one-off episodes with Mcconaughey as a mooching agent or Johnny Depp as a weirdo yogi. Even early on they had Chris Rock, SMG and Willie Nelson, so they were never above stunt-casting. Also as far as Vampirella goes, I think the problem is it's such a European Barbarella-style 60's-70's camp deal, complete with space vampires from planet Draculon (not a joke) that really only worked as an adult camp alternative to Tomb of Dracula and other 70's comics. The publisher (Warren) went bankrupt in 1983 and the character was re-booted multiple times by Harris, and then Dynamite, who tried to downplay the inherent absurdity, even getting Kurt Busiek, Warren Ellis, and Millar and Morrison to try re-pitching the series, which of course went in a grim-dark direction that is now more embarrassing than Planet Draculon. There was also an unbelievably cheap movie made by the director of Chopping Mall and Deathstalker II (and a bunch of softcore porn) starring Kitana from Mortal Kombat and Roger Daltrey as Dracula: it's not good.

rubber cat

Given that Disney really seems to be pushing him as the new George Lucas, it'd be interesting to know if Dave Filoni worked on any of the convention scenes

Micah

Boob Canyon was my favorite 1960s light-hearted western TV Show

T

I was part of a wholesome folk punk group and there were even conservatives lurking around there.

Loreal Harris

For the record, I'd SO be Kevin's girlfriend if I could...too bad I'm not his age anymore and he isn't real