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Talking Mission Hill - Unemployment Part 2 (or Theory of the Leisure Ass) (Patreon)

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2020-06-12 04:01:00
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On the second part of Mission Hill's only two-parter, we join Andy two months into unemployment as he's enjoying the fruits of his non-labor: mainly porno, malt liquor, and Bugles. But he's forced to become a working stiff once again as a missing tooth causes him to seek steady employment for the same reason most of us do—health insurance! What follows is a heavy dose of Thirtysomething references, the introduction to what would have been Andy's job for a significant chunk of the series, and of course, our own stories of being hopelessly unemployed. Now put on your favorite musical novelty tie and get ready for this week's episode!

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Tyler The Destroyer

I have to ask (and this is very important) did Bob Ever find delicious crunchy bugles ?

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Some of Andy's behaviour/looks in this are starting to become depressingly recognizable as I'm writing this on day 92 of quarantine/social distancing, and having recently completed my MA degree (in April), I've had at least 6 weeks of joblessness. I also turned 24 about a month ago, so the pressure that he hasn't achieved as much as he should have for his age group and the existential panic of how to move forward is also resonating strongly with me in this first viewing. But even with all of that, this was still a really fun episode of the show and I think I agree that it is better than Part 1.

Kiefer Fulsom

Christ, other unemployed moments I'd add is the getting hired on to the jobs that are door to door for insurance or to switch people over to a specific gas company )complete with prescripts and mantras) wolf of wall St Esque jobs (they wouldn't tell me what they didn't the compant only, that it was similar to Wolf of Wall st) or the jobs where surprise they want you to pay for your office space, travel etc, and they'll "reimburse" you later. Also this episode hit me hard a few years ago when I get laid off from some company in Chicago and was in the middle of a breakup with my spouse as well as plans to move halfway across the country, specifically waking up at 3 or 4 in the afternoon, staying up late night. And my personal favorite, walking down to the 7-11 to get a cheap lunch.

nina matsumoto

Just wanted to say I’m showing Bob “Avatar: The Last Airbender” now!

Joe Hodgson

If Mission Hill is indeed partly based on Mission Hill Boston, then it seems likely that Jim's place of work is based on Copley Plaza in Boston's Back Bay. And in the late 90s, a trip on the subway in Boston was indeed 90 cents, so this bit reads pretty accurate. I think now it's over 2 bucks, not nearly as high as SF's $4. I'm not sure why Henry referred to "titanium micro rods" as made-up, that's how dental implants have been done for awhile. I don't know if it was just a reference to the term "micro rod," but the dentist literally implants a titanium rod in the jawbone for the tooth to clip into. The only unreal aspect of the procedure depicted here is that it actually takes months for the implant to heal before the tooth can be inserted as there's actually a chance the body could reject the titanium implant. My dad is actually in that waiting period right now as he somehow managed to break a tooth on a fork. He at least has a temp tooth that's basically like a retainer he has to wear if he doesn't want to walk around with a gap in his smile until sometime in the fall when he gets the more permanent solution. And if the procedure sounds painful, apparently it is! My dad has a nice cocktail of pain killers that have been prescribed for him for the time being.

Lockerus

I was unemployed for a couple stretches after 2008 (thanks CDOs and unscrupulous bankers!) and definitely one of the worst parts is having boomer parents who don’t understand the realities of searching for work in the Internet era. Just go out and hand out resumes, ask for the manager, is useless advice when every company has a labyrinth of blockers to prevent you from applying in person now. Lots of companies I’ve worked for since would just throw in person resumes directly in the paper recycling after the poor schmuck left. Also apropos of nothing, I was reading the Sonic Generations Wikipedia page because I read that game is nine years old and couldn’t believe it and saw a review quote from Bob. I briefly thought to myself “Wow! Bob Mackey!”

Dan Vincent

"Ehhhh... Beardley." I knew too many Beardleys when I was job hunting. I was going through Andy-isms when I was laid off and unemployed at 23 years old. I luckily got a job right when I turned 24 in 2007, right before everything went to pot. I hadn't thought about Jim eventually turning into a Beardley himself, but I could definitely see it happening.

So Many Bits

The absolute low point of my last unemployment period was when I applied for job selling office supplies. Not by phone from a call center mind you, but by driving around Illinois / Indiana and just visiting offices to see if they were in need of supplies. I did a ride-along for a day with someone who already had a bunch of leads and even then it seemed like the most soul draining experience of ruthlessly harassing to buy toner ink and pens. Then the kicker: though the job was advertised as base + commission, at the end of the day I was instead told it's base OR commission, almost exactly in the same fashion as the Lionel Hutz joke. I said I'd think about, never spoke with them again, and was lucky to find a temp job instead that gradually moved me toward stable full time employment

I.C. Weiner

While this episode resonated with me for many reasons, I feel compelled to call out the "Lie on your resumé take." Just two days ago, you guys posted an episode of TS in which Henry said unequivocally that taking steroids while in MLB is cheating. Yet, that is ultimately just grown men playing a child's game. I have never lied on a resumé, and I hate to think I ever missed out on a job (especially during a personal period of unemployment when I was 2 weeks from being homeless before I got a job) because someone lied about their credentials to get priority over me. If the logic to justify lying on a resumé is that it doesn't matter because someone's friend will get the job anyway, then what is the point of lying, you won't get the job anyway? Instead, all it does is ensure that if the position is fairly up for grabs, that you have screwed over a bunch of other people that also need that job.

Mikey Cox

Great episode, really enjoy this series I never knew existed. I have a couple recommendations. First, as a near 40-something, I agree with Bob and Henry’s point that a lot of jobs are just finding ways to justify your jobs, so for your younger non-creative type listeners, I would suggest pursuing a teaching career, especially in math and science as they are always in demand. While it’s not tremendously lucrative it’s the one job where you often really get out of what you put in and you rarely feel like you’re wasting your time. I know America isn’t the best place to be an educator but I think, people can correct me if I’m wrong, many states have good benefit and pension packages, which you guys made clear is a big priority for millennials. Second, since you’re moving to Vancouver, Bob, you should really read Generation X, written by a really famous Vancouver writer Douglas Coupland (he also wrote Microsurfs, which I believe is your Retronaut partner’s favorite book). I found it incredibly striking how your and Henry’s critiques of Gen Xers is exactly how his characters criticize boomers, how they got the best jobs because they happened to enter the job market at the perfect time and never leave. Also The characters are very mission hillish and it’s where the term Generation X was coined from. Anyway, it’s pretty interesting and maybe Nina can tell you more about it, if she has read it. Keep up the great work. So happy that you guys are doing well as I have been a fan since your early retronauts days.

littleterr0r

I work for a company that builds and does SEO for dental websites and that tooth in milk thing does show up on several of our web pages so I assume that it's true.

spiffking

I've had the joy of being unemployed twice in completely different situations and it definitely isn't the amazing party everyone makes it out to be. Nothing like existential dread hovering over every dime you spend and finding ways to rebalance your budget. One of those times I managed to break my hand and didn't have insurance. Sure, I could have paid out an obscene amount for COBRA, but deciding between eating and having insurance, gonna lead toward eating. I ended up in the care of the county and their "indigent" person health care system (yeah, it was part of the name). They managed to put it in a cast, scheduled an appointment with a surgeon a month later, then that surgeon told me it had been too long and there was nothing he could do. I've also had the joy of job searching in the wake of the recession as well as within the last two years. Needless to say not a lot has changed: Everybody wants 5 years of experience for an entry level job, you have to upload your resume before entering everything in again. The only different thing was remote video interviews. This was a pre-COVID thing. You get sent to an app where you're asked questions, given 10-15 seconds to think of a response, then it records you. You're allowed one retake (more or less depending on the employer). That video is then analyzed not just for what you say, but how you say it and honestly it creeps me out just thinking about it. Needless to say, I didn't get that job, but I found one that was a better fit. I'm incredibly lucky in that both times I was eligible for unemployment and ended up in better work environments with better pay/benefits. Still doesn't make each time it happened suck any less.

ChemyChems

I had seen this episode plenty on AS reruns but it was until I was shortly unemployed after graduating college did it really hit hard. I feel in that gap where every job wanted experience for entry level jobs. So great work on the writers for making such accurate feelings of being jobless.

Cody C.

This is one of the most horrifyingly real episodes of television I’ve ever lived through.

Burt Stanton

Gotta be honest that the whining about being in quarantine has gotten pretty tiresome. Some of us have had to work non stop overtime in allegedly essential jobs. It would be nice to have a month or 2 off from the grind to just catch up on hobbies.

Kris

I strongly believe that Jim has a really good high paying job

Gabe

In the current apocalypse that is our modern life, I gotta say I do appreciate this episode in particular and enjoyed listening to both your personal gripes of the working world. Andy for most of the series comes off as this unlikeable bum, though I did feel for him this episode.

Gabe

(oh and for the record "Konietzko" is pronounced kuh-NITS-koe if the handful of Avatar interviews of him pronouncing his name in the intro can be trusted)