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Talking Simpsons - Treehouse of Horror X With Jason Sheridan (Patreon)

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2020-06-24 04:00:02
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The Simpsons celebrate Halloween for the tenth time, and we're joined again by Podcast: The Ride's Jason Sheridan for some scary fun! We go into the many plot holes of a late '90s horror parody, the comic book origins of Stretchboy and Clobber Girl, and go back to the fun days of Y2K. Listen now before a wizard does something!

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ToonJay723

My mom was concerned about poisoned trick or treats. If I got any fruit, loose candy, or home made stuff in ziploc bags she would tell me to throw it in the trash. Any candy that was wrapped or boxed was considered safe. The PJs is technically another FOX cartoon that did a Y2K episode. I say technically, because even though it was planned to air in 1999, FOX decided to air most of the second season in the following summer, and the episode didn't air until The WB got the rights to the show the Fall after.

Kiefer Fulsom

This episode holds a special place in my heart in that it was my first Simpsons Halloween episode I ever saw. And then you guys just had to go and ruin it for me didn't ya? No I'm joking. Although I'm not sure if it's worth pointing out but the segment title Desperately Xeeking Xena is a play on the oh so classic Madonna film Desperately Seeking Susan. Also did Line of the show get retired or something? If so I don't mind, I just didn't know if with everything going on you decided to let it go or something.

Harry Thornton

RE: Bill & Ted, I know that some of the later shows got the evil eye in terms of copyrighted characters. Rival WB was especially not happy when Lex Luthor from Superman Returns was used in the 2006 show. Haven't seen Being John Malcovich yet, BUT I have seen Synecdoche , New York which is one of my favourite movies ever. Scott McCloud and Mark Millar collaborating on something feels so... surreal. I know McCloud for his great nonfiction books like Understanding Comics and Making Comics, which are must-reads for any creator or just someone who's interested in comics history and theory. The idea of Flanders turning into a werewolf was kinda... unnerving to me as a kid. To this day I still can't quite watch the end of this episode for that reason. As a NZer I have to give some credit to Sam Raimi for seeing our country as a good filming location quite a few years before LOTR put us on the hollywood map. Hell, that recent Ash vs. Evil Dead series he was involved with was also here as well. I was gonna mention them anyway, but I'm glad Henry's sticking up for the comics here, I loved those too! The fact the Bongo comics people took these one-off ideas like Stretch Dude & Clobber Girl and developed them further than the show could was a great idea, even if this Tim Long guy doesn't seem to think much of them... I love that Futurama superhero episode, and the theme song too! Meanwhile this segment's theme song feels like a Wonder Woman parody specifically, which makes sense knowing when the writers were growing up. As someone who's been getting into the old Star Wars expanded universe I am ABSOLUTELY Frink in that "Wizard Did It" scene. The funny thing to me is that there's no real origin or explanation for why Comic Book Guy is The Collector, unlike the main heroes. The idea of CBG just becoming a supervillain out of nowhere is hilarious. There was a time when dissing Stan Lee was cooler among "in the know" comics fans because he DID tend to get all the attention compared to his collaborators like Kirby and Ditko. I know you guys aren't a fan of it, but I do love that the american Simpsons writers were so up-and-up on Doctor Who long before it hit the mainstream in the USA. I must say Lucy Lawless' american accent is VERY good, and yes I can tell the difference between the aussie and kiwi accents. The Phantom Menace merch actually collapsed, of all things, the book company DK. They overproduced so much on Star Wars books they had to be bought out by another company. Like Dr. Who, Battlestar Galactica jokes probably meant a little more before its revival. Again, glad you guys pointed out that Y2K wasn't this scam or anything, that it was a REAL issue. YouTuber LGR made a great video on the history of Y2K, even showing a clip from this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm5OiB3CPxg PanPizza also did a video focused on "Y2K" episodes, including this episode and Family Guy's and he actually does put KOTH as the best of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2viemDIryI The "I'm not dead" joke feels taken from the same joke in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Haven't seen Maximum Overdrive, but I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the film the final segment's rocket design references, When Worlds Collide. I HAVE seen it, and it's... pretty good! There's something fascinating about BIG-budget '50s sci-fi movies like it, which its producer George Pal was a specialist in. Fun fact about Meet Me in St. Louis: GENE KELLY thought it was the best musical ever.

Casey Jones' Podcast

Yet another 26 year old here who distinctly remembers this as the first new Simpsons episode he was allowed to stay up and watch. I had just turned 6 the week before, and I had apparently weakened the will of my parents enough to finally allow me to stay up and watch TV late enough on a school night to watch the new Simpsons episode. I'd say this episode in particular was the beginning of my 3-4 year run of watching every new Simpsons episode as they were released - what a time to get involved. Needless to say, my will had been broken by 2004, when a historic Yankees postseason collapse kept me far, far away from Fox or anything remotely Simpsons related until at least 2010. Anyways, this always felt like the end of the beginning of the end. Not a whole lot of great stuff from here on out...

Dan Vincent

The swashbuckling Action Pack show starring Bruce Campbell is called Jack of All Trades, and it's... not bad, but not great either. It's a Bruce Campbell scenery chewing vehicle, and if you like that, you'll probably dig it.

Frank Grimes

I also saw both Summer flicks in theaters, being a horror fan...but geez the sequel had the stupidest plot and reveal, and Jack Black.

Lockerus

Maude? More like fraud!

ShyRanger

We have a VERY brief instance spoken of Michael Jordon and space, that makes me VERY excited for next week XD.

SlothIsLegend

Goddamn, Henry had his Genius at Work shirt on in this episode. It’s a non canonical Halloween episode, who gives a shit about continuity?

Joe Hodgson

I spent New Year's Eve 99 at a party at some girl's house whom I didn't know. I was only there because a girl I liked was friends with her and I wanted to spend the night with her since she was up from Florida for the holidays after having moved a year earlier (I lived in New Hampshire). She was also terrified of Y2K because she had to get on a plane the next day or something so I learned really early in the night that hoping for a bit of romance from someone stricken with anxiety isn't a good plan. We had to watch the ball drop and even after it was over she was still a bit of a wreck. It was memorable though as I was pretty dorky teen and I think that was the only New Year's Eve party I went to in high school. That third segment definitely feels like The Simpsons at its meanest. I am struggling to think of a bit I would call more mean-spirited to so many people. And the Spike Lee inclusion is a real "yikes" one. If they wanted to spotlight another black guy, why not OJ? Or was he just done to death at that point? That's probably why they didn't highlight anyone affiliated with the Clinton Impeachment, not that I'm saying someone like Monica Lewinsky was deserving of getting kicked around again. I'm guessing they were just sick of that story at this point, plus they ended a prior one with the Ken Starr joke. All in all, not a great Treehouse of Horror, but not the worst. It certainly makes suicide by exposure to space sound pleasant.

Guybrush

I believe it was Chris Kohler at a Retronauts panel who said, before taking questions, something to the effect: "Remember, a question is a single sentence that ends with a question mark," which frankly seems like something that should be reminded in any setting where audience members ask questions of a panel or presenter.

Alex Irish

Halloween 99 was a special night for me. It was the year I did watch this episode live and new, but I also was resplendent in a home made Bender costume for Halloween, made from cardboard, foam, and foil. I vividly remember two guys approached me while Trick or Treating and snapped a picture of the costume; that was gratifying considering the put into it; sadly, I don’t have any pics

Jose Rivera

For me this was the last of the good Halloween specials. I think the next year was the one with the dolphins. That’s when I had my first clue the show was exiting it’s golden age...when the Halloween special wasn’t very good.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag (edited)

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2026-09-07 10:00 I just want to start by corroborating Bob's point about the dangerous Halloween candy. This was totally a false urban legend based upon like a single case of a parent poisoning candy to kill their own children, and stuff like the razorblades in candy apples etc probably never happened because it was never really documented anyway (though it hilariously appears in Halloween II). -- I think so far this is actually my favourite season 11 episode, I had a lot of fun with it! And luckily, it gives me a spot to talk about some of the things it was parodying. For my money, this episode's "I Know What You Did Last Summer" parody is much better than the actual GOD AWFUL movie. I'm a HUGE horror junkie, and I even love a fun bad horror film, but holy shit that movie is so stupid. It's part of a problem that fucking plagued horror movies for the late 90s and into the early 2000s a bit, where every slasher-esque movie wanted so fucking badly to be the new SCREAM (often produced by Dimension themselves) but had no understanding of *why* that movie is so good and beloved. Instead, they come up with a half-asses mystery that is unsatisfying and makes no real sense, inject a bunch of recognizable 20-somethings to be their new SEXY TEENS, add some trendy/hip songs for the soundtrack regardless of if they fit the tone, and pump them out like sludge. I watched it with adult eyes a couple of years ago and couldn't stand it. The sequel, as is a horror trend, basically ignores the nonsense JUMPSCARE ending of 1 and moves forward with an even dumber plot. I never bothered watching the direct-to-video third film, and I'm sure the Amazon show will be subpar. I think the most memorable part of the original is when Sarah Michelle Gellar is on stage watching Ryan Phillipe get killed up in the balcony and no one listens to her until it's too late, but even THAT was alluded to/executed better elsewhere (in the very underrated Scream TV show). -- Also, Xena fucking rocks, and so does Lucy Lawless, and it got some good recurring roles for Bruce Campbell and Ted Raimi. Plus, thanks to it introducing Lucy to Raimi & producing partner Rob Tappert, Lucy then got to appear in a bunch of Sam Raimi projects like Spider-Man (cameo) and Ash vs the Evil Dead (recurring role throughout the whole show).
2020-06-25 05:44 I just want to start by corroborating Bob's point about the dangerous Halloween candy. This was totally a false urban legend based upon like a single case of a parent poisoning candy to kill their own children, and stuff like the razorblades in candy apples etc probably never happened because it was never really documented anyway (though it hilariously appears in Halloween II). -- I think so far this is actually my favourite season 11 episode, I had a lot of fun with it! And luckily, it gives me a spot to talk about some of the things it was parodying. For my money, this episode's "I Know What You Did Last Summer" parody is much better than the actual GOD AWFUL movie. I'm a HUGE horror junkie, and I even love a fun bad horror film, but holy shit that movie is so stupid. It's part of a problem that fucking plagued horror movies for the late 90s and into the early 2000s a bit, where every slasher-esque movie wanted so fucking badly to be the new SCREAM (often produced by Dimension themselves) but had no understanding of *why* that movie is so good and beloved. Instead, they come up with a half-asses mystery that is unsatisfying and makes no real sense, inject a bunch of recognizable 20-somethings to be their new SEXY TEENS, add some trendy/hip songs for the soundtrack regardless of if they fit the tone, and pump them out like sludge. I watched it with adult eyes a couple of years ago and couldn't stand it. The sequel, as is a horror trend, basically ignores the nonsense JUMPSCARE ending of 1 and moves forward with an even dumber plot. I never bothered watching the direct-to-video third film, and I'm sure the Amazon show will be subpar. I think the most memorable part of the original is when Sarah Michelle Gellar is on stage watching Ryan Phillipe get killed up in the balcony and no one listens to her until it's too late, but even THAT was alluded to/executed better elsewhere (in the very underrated Scream TV show). -- Also, Xena fucking rocks, and so does Lucy Lawless, and it got some good recurring roles for Bruce Campbell and Ted Raimi. Plus, thanks to it introducing Lucy to Raimi & producing partner Rob Tappert, Lucy then got to appear in a bunch of Sam Raimi projects like Spider-Man (cameo) and Ash vs the Evil Dead (recurring role throughout the whole show).

I just want to start by corroborating Bob's point about the dangerous Halloween candy. This was totally a false urban legend based upon like a single case of a parent poisoning candy to kill their own children, and stuff like the razorblades in candy apples etc probably never happened because it was never really documented anyway (though it hilariously appears in Halloween II). -- I think so far this is actually my favourite season 11 episode, I had a lot of fun with it! And luckily, it gives me a spot to talk about some of the things it was parodying. For my money, this episode's "I Know What You Did Last Summer" parody is much better than the actual GOD AWFUL movie. I'm a HUGE horror junkie, and I even love a fun bad horror film, but holy shit that movie is so stupid. It's part of a problem that fucking plagued horror movies for the late 90s and into the early 2000s a bit, where every slasher-esque movie wanted so fucking badly to be the new SCREAM (often produced by Dimension themselves) but had no understanding of *why* that movie is so good and beloved. Instead, they come up with a half-asses mystery that is unsatisfying and makes no real sense, inject a bunch of recognizable 20-somethings to be their new SEXY TEENS, add some trendy/hip songs for the soundtrack regardless of if they fit the tone, and pump them out like sludge. I watched it with adult eyes a couple of years ago and couldn't stand it. The sequel, as is a horror trend, basically ignores the nonsense JUMPSCARE ending of 1 and moves forward with an even dumber plot. I never bothered watching the direct-to-video third film, and I'm sure the Amazon show will be subpar. I think the most memorable part of the original is when Sarah Michelle Gellar is on stage watching Ryan Phillipe get killed up in the balcony and no one listens to her until it's too late, but even THAT was alluded to/executed better elsewhere (in the very underrated Scream TV show). -- Also, Xena fucking rocks, and so does Lucy Lawless, and it got some good recurring roles for Bruce Campbell and Ted Raimi. Plus, thanks to it introducing Lucy to Raimi & producing partner Rob Tappert, Lucy then got to appear in a bunch of Sam Raimi projects like Spider-Man (cameo) and Ash vs the Evil Dead (recurring role throughout the whole show).

I.C. Weiner

For the record, marital privilege is very much a real thing. It comes in two form: 1. Current spouse cannot be compelled to testify against their spouse (Sopranos showed the governmental pressure can be applied to make someone "voluntarily" waive the privilege) and this privilege ends once your marriage ends; and 2. Any statements made to only your spouse while married, but any statements made prior or post marriage are fair game.

Hans Breakfastman

Thanks for the heads-up about the DVDs, It's time to finish off the collection.

Chris Dobson
>>39213030

Yep, the joke on AD is George Bluth says a husband and wife can't be convicted of the same crime, confusing spousal privilege with double jeopardy.

Alex Forsyth

Nothing wrong with trick or treating in high school. I did it all the way to grade 13. Some of my friends and I had younger siblings and they were our excuse to still be going out because we were supervising them. There's no such thing and not wanting free candy!

nina matsumoto

Bullet point comments: - Being John Malkovich is still my favourite movie ever - Homer's "Guess I forgot to put the foglights in" song is the line of the episode for me - ALL of the Stretch Boy and Clobber Girl comics for Bongo were written by friend of the show Ian Boothby so you're right to boo Tim Long here! - Henry unnecessarily spelling out the R-word right after Bob cautiously called it the R-word was hilarious - A wizard did it, Henry

Drew Waranis

In CA, at least, Soviet Nuclear Annihilation drills became Earthquake Drills, so that scans.

The Home Video Update

I had forgotten all of these segments were in this one, and for how "late" it is that I quote it a whole lot in real life! I have said phew lord what a mayonnaise out loud way too much, implied or implode way more and have put variations on the Tom Arnold big guy speech more than once!

Tekrelm

Great episode of the podcast, and a very enjoyable episode of the Simpsons, even though this is from after I stopped watching religiously. My favorite part of this episode is the, "a wizard did it," line, but not just for its application in art and entertainment--I actually found it to be much more profound than that. I know you guys don't care to dunk on people for their religion, but I can't help but think of that line every time I hear someone deny science and invoke the god of the gaps. Professor Frink, representing intellectually curious people, observed an inconsistency in the fables and went looking for a legitimate explanation. Lucy's character represents religious leaders, who dishonestly shut down all valid questions with one illegitimate answer that answers nothing, just so the fiction of the story she aims to preserve isn't broken. It may not have been written that way deliberately, but it struck me as a fantastic allegory for religion's suppression of objectivity, science, and the truth.

Christmas Ape

This is an episode I specifically remember seeing the ads for, likely while watching Digimon on Fox Kids (while actively avoiding watching the horrendous-looking Avengers cartoon you talked about, because even as an eleven-year-old I knew it wasn't worth my time.) For me, it falls into the category of “It's fine”, although things like Homer's fog light jingle, Lucy Lawless flying, and the ending of the Y2K segment have always stuck with me. And now for some fun facts: -It's still called Sugar Crisp in Canada, which you could interpret as either honesty or brazenness on the part of Post Cereals' Canadian branch. -I Know What You Did Last Summer is actually based on a YA novel written in the 70s. Needless to say, the book is way less violent than the movie, and the author was not particularly happy with the adaptation.