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What A Cartoon! - Sonic SatAM "Super Sonic" With Ian Jones-Quartey (Patreon)

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2020-09-14 04:00:02
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2026-06
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This week is a big one as we welcome back creator of OK K.O. Ian Jones-Quartey to talk about a character close to his heart: Sonic The Hedgehog! How did the fastest thing alive really move to two different animated series in 1993? How did Jaleel White define Sega's mascot? How did Ian craft a tribute to this series in his own animation? And why are there so many wizards in this more serious story of Sonic and his friends Sally, Tails, Rotor, Bunny, and Antoine? Learn it all as we juice and jam through Sonic The Hedgehog in this week's podcast!

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Frank Grimes

This version had the catchier theme song, but I slightly preferred the weekday one...especially since it had a time travel episode and chaos emeralds!

littleterr0r

One of my favorite dudes is back! Can't wait to listen.

Cody C.

Even if the content is dated and kinda cringe, this was my preferred interpretation of the Sonic canon. Easy to root for the plucky upstart with a power that’s fighting off the apocalypse, yanno?

NervousWrex

I always love Ian on the podcast, and he was the absolute perfect guest for this episode. As a fellow huge Sonic fan of the 90s I really appreciated the clear influence Sonic had on OK KO. Of the Jaleel White Sonics I prefer AoSTH, it's imperfect (to put it lightly) but has some fun and inspired moments, while SatAM always feels slow and dour on revisiting (also, Antoine). Sonic Underground is such a baffling misfire that I can't help but wonder how off the rails it would have gotten without Ben Hurst and Pat Allee steering the ship.

Joe Hodgson

I have some good memories of this show. I remember being primed for Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, but not really taking to it. When this was previewed on TGIF, I was first surprised as I just thought it was going to be Adventures, but then intrigued when it turned out to be a whole different show. At that point, X-Men was my favorite show on TV so I liked the tone, though I was immediately let down when this particular episode was titled "Super Sonic" but did not feature the Super Sonic transformation. I liked it though and I stuck with it for a time, though I often would sleep-in too late on Saturday and miss it resulting in me losing track of the show. I did buy it on DVD years ago to check it out and found it to be a bit disappointing. It was fine for 93 and for a kid audience, but it's definitely not going to entertain an adult like some of its peers. I do enjoy the lore of the show, for what it is. Any episode dealing with the tragedy of Uncle Chuck mostly works. I'd like to think X-Men gave DiC confidence to try this format out, though I don't know if that's true. DiC had done lore-heavy shows before. Or at least one such cartoon: The Adventures of Teddy Ruxpin. I don't recommend that show, but it's surprising how serialized it is for a toy tie-in from 1986. My kids have taken to Sonic, so I've actually seen a lot of Adventures somewhat recently since it's on Netflix and Prime. I don't really like either Sonic from the early 90s, but I can see the appeal of Adventures. It's pretty annoying though so I don't think I've come around like others to the point where I'd rather watch it over this one. I think I might actually prefer Sonic X to both of the early 90s cartoons, which is another show my kids have taken to. Coincidentally, I tried the Sonic Chili Dogs recipe yesterday for an afternoon of football viewing. It's not bad! It incorporates barbecue sauce into the recipe which is different, making it more of a sweet chili as opposed to spicy. My very picky daughter enjoyed it though, so I might have to make chili in this style more often. I believe this recipe also received the coveted Bill Oakley endorsement.

Joey Joe Joe Shabadoo

The youtube link for this episode had bumpers for "Bump in the Night" and commercials for all the sugary garbage food and fake plastic toys my childhood could handle. Thank you for that.

Thad Komorowski

I haven’t listened to all of it but of course Ian is great as always. I’ve been trying to determine WHY there is a sweet spot with Sonic for me. The first Genesis games and roughly the years spanning #20 thru 50 of the Archie comics. And I still would NEVER place those in my favorite comics/cartoonists, but I just can’t shake the idea that they’re fun characters and concepts. I think it boils down to, “I’m nostalgic for when I was 7,” more than any real quality, much like how older friends fondly remember the sea of shit of Gold Key ‘60s comics.

Thad Komorowski

and yeah, Ian is correct. The Archie Comic characters are for all intents and purposes dead. The new IDW line is pretty decent but I dunno... Can’t get into it. I need my Sally, Bunnie, Rotor, Uncle Chuck, and yeah, Antoine, to really feel at home again, but it could also be decades of nadir have poisoned the well.

dave s

Bunny is the same character as Mouse from Reboot, down to her purple color scheme and bangs / ears. What's up with that?

crystalhearts

Oh man, this one was great. Laugh out loud moment at Ian warning that he was going to "exhume old forum drama"

Thad Komorowski

BTW, the events from the SatAM show, which ended in 1995, aren't really reflected in the Archie Comics until 1997. Talking the "End Game" storyline that ends with Robotnik getting "killed" and the comic getting really, really stupid and bad for a really, really, really, really long time. I am not a Sonic historian, just a kid that read too many shitty comics and happens to know this.

Thad Komorowski

Also, Kent Butterworth told me the crew of his show referred to this show as the "Dark Knight Sonic".

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

I've never been a big Sonic fan, and I'm younger than you guys, so Sonic X was the cartoon that I begrudgingly watched between other shows I liked. That being said, I did watch a TON of the Tales from the Crypt cartoon (which scared me a lot as a kid) so hearing that this episode broadcast was from the day that one premiered was wild. It has a great theme song, and I would certainly love to see WAC tackle it in the future.

To Boldly Joe... Moore

Hi, guys. Loved the podcast. One of the funniest I've heard in a while. ^_^ This show interested me as a kid but I think I preferred the wackier AOSTH in terms of outright looney tunes insanity. Don't get me wrong; I knew SATAM was the "better" show but I'm a sucker for goofy Shredder/Krang style bad guys so I think that appealed to me more. One thing you mentioned though was Sonic Spinball which *did* feature character designs from SATAM but there were also versions of "Scratch" (BA-HA-BA-HAA...!) from AOSTH in the bonus stage so this was something of a hybrid. Adding to the confusion, I believe when Spinball was released on the Master System/Game Gear, the cover art was altered to replace the traditional Sonic 1/2 design of Robotnik with the one from AOSTH (who isn't even in the game!) Strangely, the updated design appeared on an officially released t-shirt here in the UK last year. There must be a secret demand I'm not aware of. Finally, yes, the UK Sonic the Comic borrowed characters and designs from everywhere and didn't seem to have any coordination or support from SEGA. Robotnik was "reborn" as his AOSTH version and Amy Rose' hair was based on a promo image that had her spines curving upwards like Super Sonic. It seems none of the artists had a copy of Sonic CD, otherwise they'd know her hair is more like regular Sonic, sloping downwards. But, you know what, I love these different versions of the same character. It's always interesting to see someone else's take on a popular franchise. ^_^ Stay safe and keep up the awesome work!

DL MacDonald

Hello again! Great episode on a show that certainly crept into my childhood memories. I do recall those ABC mornings pre our town getting Fox Kids. Wanted to add to the Lazaar voice debate. I could hear why some may have thought Dan voiced him - I get a kind of Grandpa from Hey Arnold vibe, but only slightly. Yet I don’t agree with the assumption of Frank Welker providing the voice since I have suspicions that it was actually Jim Cummings. It seems to have that grumble of a Cummings voiced character like Tigger but with a high tone like Pooh. I may be way off but it’s certainly in his wheel house. Something to ponder. All the best!

Lockerus

I did a control+f for "Ken Penders" so forgive me if somebody already mentioned this. But if you're interested more in the Sonic the Hedgehog Archie series which was super important to me as a kid - and the legal issues which were mentioned on the podcast - I recommend the unfortunately named "Sonic Lore Master" Cybershell's "A Farewell to the Sonic Comic" YouTube video. He covers the history of the comic, which was the longest running continuous American comic series when it ended. No "number 1 reboots" for Archie's Sonic! He also goes over why the series ended and gets into the legal battles with Ken Penders. This was mentioned on the podcast, but apparently nobody knows what contract Penders signed, if any, so all the characters he made, including the extended Echidna family, were owned by him and not Sega or Archie. Edit: oh yeah I forgot there’s some ableist language on that video in a couple spots. So if you’re not into that, be aware.

Rhomega

Never played the Sonic games as a kid (except this one time), but I loved Sonic SatAM when my brother and I watched it in '96, which I believe was on USA Cartoon Express. The theme song was just so awesome. Then they switched back to Adventures, and I'm like "No, bring the other one back!". Watched it again on Netflix a few years ago and appreciate it even more. Oh, and while I'm a furry, Sally did nothing for me.

Ian

I could listen to you guys & Ian talk about Sonic for another two and a half hours, easy. I was a kid obsessed with the Genesis games and my fandom really grew to absurd heights in that weird interim period you describe, where the main series of games was dormant but the Archie comic and memories of this cartoon sustained a really vibrant (also, bizarre) fan community. Yes, I had a hedgehog OC and yes, he wore a trench coat like Gambit from the X-Men. In my opinion, this weird attempt at interpreting the game only really clicked when expanded upon in the incredibly dense and strange world of the comics (which, by the way, are crazy expensive now - check eBay!), and I got such a kick out of Ian reminiscing about an era of fandom that was so formative to me.

Byron Lagrone

Awesome episode. So, I didn't get huge into StH in any form (save the 16-bit era games + Mania) until last year when I found the forum drama around Ken Penders, which led me to https://thankskenpenders.tumblr.com/ So shout-out to Bobby who helped me catch up on this without ever having watched any of the '90s shows. It's a weird intersection of my interests around the psyche of fandom[s], furry apologetics, Archie comics, [...] I do think I will avoid re-watching this b/c it is... a lot of awesome voice actors + ideas crammed into a package that is too small and surrounded by badness IN SHORT, so many things. Thanks for this episode

Mr. Zayler

I completely agree with Ian, I remember being so excited to watch Tales of the Cryptkeeper, enjoying the opening and then being bored by 90% of the episodes.