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Talking Simpsons - Days of Wine And D'oh'ses With Nick Prueher (Patreon)

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2020-11-11 05:00:04
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It's time for Barney to get sober, and we've got a great guest to help with his 12 steps, Nick Prueher from Found Footage Festival/VCR Party Live! We discuss our own histories with knowing the newly sober, our thoughts on how exploring Barney's drinking works for comedy, and also some thoughts about forest fires! Don't be glum, listen to this podcast!

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SlothIsLegend

Aaron Paul never directed any Breaking Bad episodes, come on breh

Frank Grimes

Always liked this episode, and how for a while they actually kept with continuity and barney was sober. I think it wasn't until S13 or later they broke it.

Dylan

Happy Flaming Moe's Day!

Andrew Giachetti

Speaking of coffee, as some one with ADHD most drugs tend work "opposite" on me generally speaking, especially coffee (though technically coffee is like neutral for me, I've just been drinking it so long im physically addicted, which I learned when my coffee pot broke once, so I drink it to make the shakes stop). Though to be fair, when I took what was essentially medical grade meth every for 20ish years (prescribed by a doctor), coffee (and even hardcore stimulants) are child's play. When I was in grad school, I used to drink Milo Aukerman levels of black coffee, at least a pot a day, just as a reason to give myself a break from the 80+ hour weeks I was doing between multiple jobs and lab hours and school, not so much to stay awake. These days I really only drink one or two cups a day, but I can literally drink a cup of coffee and then pass out. There was one time before the shutdown when I was trying to get an espresso at the library coffee shop at the new university I was working at (I say new because they hadnt learned my coffee habits yet) and I was like "yeah just give me like a triple shot of espresso". The two baristas looked at each other panic and said "sir, we usually give a double shot per serving, so thats like, 6 or 8 shots you're ordering". To which I just looked at my boss, who was paying, winked, and said "nah its cool, im Italian, I can handle it. In fact, I'll take four." The baristas laughed at me but served me. And since I like my coffee super hot, I woofed it down on the spot. Everyone was stunned. Especially since Im pretty sure like 2 hours later I drank a monster on top of it. All these stimulants just make ADHD/OCD me feel normal, if not a little sleepy. Im chugging monster right now, its preferable to ritalin, and equal in potency, so I dont know how they can just sell it OTC. Energy drinks, coffee, therapy and mmj (also doctor prescribed) seem to be the winning ticket for keeping my stuff in order. That would probably shock most people, but the neuroscience does check out. If you read this comment and want to add this part, just call me "Andrew G" or leave it out. No thats too obvious, just call me Lisa S. Ive told similar stories you guys have read on air and been fine. But this opposite drug effect has been tested to the extreme. I once was sleeping on my friends couch in college during a night of partying. Suddenly everyone was doing coke. My friends wanting to be nice (or drunk), woke me up basically shoving it under my nose. Just to make them go away I took a tiny key bump, showed them way, and locked the door. I feel back asleep immediately for like 8 hours. I think im the only person in the world who has done coke just to fall asleep on it (who wasn't like overdosing, and this was so minuscule thats not really a possibility). Ive only done coke a few other times in my life, mainly because its not as exciting for me as it is for other people. Plus Ive known my fair share of fiends. I think its important to share candid drug use stories to people can develop safe use habits and not die. This is is just an interesting one of mine.

Joe Hodgson

I'm the rare metalhead that has never liked Metallica. I might even hate them, but even I think they get too much shit for the whole Napster thing. And I was probably the Napster defender's ideal user in that I used to download a bunch of obscure death and black metal bands that I wasn't willing to just take a flier on with an 18 dollar CD at the time and I used the service like a free rental. If I liked the band, I'd usually go out and buy their stuff afterwards, if it could be found in the US. Still, most of my friends just stopped buying music when Napster came out so I don't know how well that defense of the service actually worked. Metallica, having lots of money and clout, could shoulder the legal costs and take the PR hit of going after Napster. Napster was a reaction to an archaic and stagnant retail model for music so it wasn't the blight on the industry it was made out to be, but artists were almost certainly losing money so I don't fault any for standing up. Musicians are sometimes held to unfair standards that their art was meant to be shared, when that's all well and good, but they also deserve to be paid for their work. Old people coffee is indeed fucking terrible. I live in my grandfather's old house and when he died he left behind all of his Costco purchases, like giant cans of Chock Full O' Nuts brand coffee. It's been almost five years since he passed and that damn can is still in the back of my cabinet. If we run out of coffee, I will get up and drive to a store to buy better coffee before I even consider taking from that can. I'm not sure what would get me to open it at this point, maybe a blizzard? And I'm well aware that I should probably just throw it out and I have no excuse for why I haven't yet other than I guess I just haven't needed the space.

Jonathan

Most airplanes want to fly by design, but with helicopters, your having to fight them at the controls the hole time.

Paul

Anybody else notice the continuity error when they ask Homer to sit in Barney's chair? He's about to sit in his own chair instead and you see two chairs, but when we go to a wide shot of him sadly dancing, there was only one chair the whole time. I hope whichever animator was responsible was fired for that blunder!

Tyler M.

The fat secret agent line had a different joke via the closed captions IIRC. Something along the lines of “get out of here before I eat you.”

PittyParty

Anyone else watch the early 60s film Days of Wine and Roses? Caught it a few years back on tv. Depressing, but not depressing enough to make me quit drinking.

Thad Komorowski

I think this might be my very favorite Scully era episode. In many ways, it’s the sole equivalent of the Oakley-Weinstein episodes that acted as defacto series wraps on different secondary characters. As Henry rightly noted, it actually has, dare I say it, some heart to it with Homer selflessly drinking to not only keep Barney sober but also save his children. On a personal note, this has a permanent place in my heart because Barney’s birthday party is part of the lexicon of my father and I: we can quote any piece of it and we know exactly what we’re talking about. The sheer absurdity makes this realistic drunkenness funny: that Barney not only dressed as Marge, but Homer ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS MARGE, and that he has a sigh of relief that it’s only his best friend in his wife’s clothing. Also, when the FUCK has Marge EVER said “I’m off to market”? Barney’s breaking of the bannister may also be the final piece of truly funny animation/timing in the series - just still-frame it and you’ll see what I mean. Also, Crazy Guggenheim was who Stan Freberg ripped off for Pete Puma. (Daws Butler could also do the voice and did it for numerous other WB, Lantz, and Hanna-Barbera cartoons.)

Brian Hortin

The silver bullet Coors reference in this episode seems appropriate since Smokey and the Bandit centers around the illegal trucking of Coors by Jerry Fireball Mudflap himself Burt Reynolds.

Sabrina

I grew up going to my dad’s NA meetings on Saturday nights when he couldn’t find a babysitter. (Maybe not the most wholesome environment but it probably made me the boring adult I am today... I heard some wild stories.) The coffee/sugar replacement addiction is real. He loved this joke about Barney being a coffee addict because he became one himself after years and years of speed addiction & those group members were my #1 customers every year when it was time to sell Girl Scout cookies.

Sasha Mikhail

Wow I've watched this episode so many times over the years and every time I interpreted the ending to mean that Moe was putting alcohol in Barney's coffee to make him relapse. Glad to have a new interpretation that's a little less monstrous!

Kat Heagberg

Being from Grand Rapids, Michigan, home of Amway, can confirm that many, many things were named for it, most other things were named for the DeVos and Van Andel (the other founder) families: The Amway Grand Plaza Hotel, the Van Andel Arena, Devos Hall, Devos Place, the Helen Devos Children’s hospital, and so on. Like most sensible local folks, my family had an extreme dislike for all things Amway and the politics of its founders (my parents are public school teachers, so Betsy DeVos in particular was considered worse than Satan in our house for as long as I can remember), and we always felt a little conflicted about attending sporting events or concerts in those places. When I was 14, I had to spend a week in the children’s hospital, and it was a major financial hardship for my family. I remember my mom getting a bill one day and being like “it’s bad enough that insurance won’t cover this, but does it have to say ‘DeVos’ on the envelope on top of it?”

crystalhearts

We're deep enough in quarantine now that your description of meeting in a church basement drinking coffee in styrofoam cups had me yearning

thatcamjones

Helicopter chat: I was once gifted an introductory Helicopter lesson, and it stands as one of the scariest things I’ve done. I tend to think most folk could “get” flying a fixed wing aircraft. If you can drive a car, you’ve got a pretty good chance of grasping basic flight controls. Point a fixed wing in a given direction, and it’ll generally want to keep going. Keeping a chopper on even a simple path - by comparison - is a whole ‘nother ball game. It is to flying planes, as competitive unicycle-chainsaw-juggling is to a spot of casual cycling. I’ve done plenty of dumb stuff on all kinds of bikes and cars when was young(er) and (more) stupid, but I’ve never felt more directly connected to my possible death than when I had the controls in a tiny little chopper. My main take away was that chopper pilots are all mad, and are somehow put together differently to the rest of us. Really cool experience though, won’t lie. ** edit; for real though, choppers are dangerous as fuck , stay out of those things. You’re just fine without the experience. They don’t so much “fly”, it’s just that they’re so inherently hideous that the earth actively repels them.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

I thought this episode was pretty decent upon revisiting it, even if Lisa & Bart's b-plot was out of place and dated as you guys talked about. It really feels like they started with the idea that they needed to be in peril for Barney to save them, and worked back from there at the last minute after writing the rest of Barney's journey. --- Likewise, in talking about Barney's alcoholism and reflecting on past jokes at his expensive, I really feel like they could have come up for a stronger impetus for him to want to get his life back together and quit drinking. He's been treated far worse by Moe and the others before, and he's even had more pathetic lows in other episodes, so it's a little weird to me that this was the straw that broke the camel's back. Even if in real life, the moment inspiring a change like this may often be something small or seemingly insignificant, I feel like this is a case where the story overdramatizing that tipping point is something that would serve the story well.

Mikey Cox

My ex was in AA and I went to a couple meetings with her. What I found striking, and she told me this isn’t uncommon, is that after listening to a few people talk about cravings & such it made me, a moderate drinker, feel like I had a problem too. I guess it’s the case that many of us are simply functional alcoholics like Lenny and Carl.

nalem

W-were there THAT many drunken slipping fatalities?