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What A Cartoon! - The Flintstones "The Great Gazoo" (Patreon)

Published:
2021-01-11 05:00:00
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2021-01-11 20:07:17
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This week, as chosen by premium Patreon subscriber Phil, we're covering a bedrock of TV animation: The Flintstones! The series is now a bit of a forgotten institution, so we explore how the show came to define the 1960s. And after we cover the creation of it, we also dive into the show's first downfall, as defined by a little green alien that only Fred and Barney can see. Listen along as we have a gay old time!

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Cossover

The show is on a network call me tv right now play it every week night at 6 pm. They started the show on the original air day and time last year.

Matt

I don’t know if you guys have seen Wolfwalkers yet, but it definitely needs to be a WAC movie at some point.

Frank Grimes

Would it have mattered if Fred and barney got mind wiped, after the future ep? Lol not like Flintstones had any real continuity

Jonathan

Time to light up a good winston cigarette.

Paul

I think when you were outlying what a sitcom is you skipped over a very important evolutionary stage: the radio! There were a lot of radio sitcoms and even ones that set up "the formula" before it was happening on TV! Last week I was just listening to radio episodes of Father Knows Best that predated The Honeymooners by years.

Kat Heagberg

True story! This morning I popped in my earbuds to head out for a run, excited, as I am every Monday, to have a new episode of What a Cartoon to listen to. I'm lacing up my sneakers as Henry is discussing the Fruity Pebbles rap and general ubiquity of the Flintstones as mascots in our lifetime. Only to glance up and see a box of Fruity Pebbles staring me back in the face. Now, I'm not one to believe in the super natural, but it truly felt like a spiritual experience. They will never leave us. Capitalism-fueled transcendental experiences aside, my biggest memory of the Flintstones, even more than vitamins and cereal, was their constant presence at Denny's in the late '80s/Early '90s. Every Saturday night I would go to Denny's with my grandparents and the entire kids' menu was Flinstones-themed, and I believe there were some toys that came along with them? For some reason we even had the restaurants' Flinstones placemats at home. My grandparents weren't known to steal anything beyond the occasional pack of Nutrasweet or coffee creamer, so I'm pretty sure the manager just gave them too us at some point.

Thad Komorowski

I'm pleased you guys gave this bedrock of TV animation a kinder shake than I expected. I've been watching them on MeTV for the past year and have been amazed at how much I've been enjoying the earlier episodes. (You can hear my thoughts on the November Cartoon Logic about Hanna-Barbera.) I do kind of doubt that if Alan Reed wasn't the main character, I wouldn't be speaking so fondly. While I certainly like The Simpsons more than The Flintstones, it can't be understated how much Fred DNA is in Homer. (There was one second season episode, "The Happy Household", where Fred is speaking in pure growling, and Barney converses with him as if it's normal speech. I don't think Homer ever did that verbatim but you know that scene was on the Simpsons guys' minds.) Being my pedantic self: Huck Hound was NOT based on Andy Griffith. He was a ripoff of Tex Avery's casting of Daws Butler as the southern wolf in the Droopy cartoons, and then as Smedly of the Chilly Willy series. It's down to a fabrication in that speech in "The Day The Violence Died" that we all love, but Griffith wasn't on Avery or any of those guys' minds when they had Butler do the voice. No boners for Ann-Margrock here. I hate that caricature, makes her about 40 years older than she was at the time. There's a whole school of boomer/gen X cartoonists that think the height of sexiness is the Betty Rubble design style, and it creeps into all their work. Those people scare the shit out of me. I've been waffling on getting the complete Flintstones Blu-Ray set, but two reasons keep me from doing it. One, I'd never watch more than half of it once. Two, almost all of the fifth season episodes have wrong credits. Despite them being correct on the DVD set. Ever since Earl Kress passed, WB cartoon collection QC has gone to shit.

Thad Komorowski

Also, "Flintstones on the Rock" didn't air just once, it aired many times and then got completely buried. Don't expect it to resurface anytime soon in an official venue with Savino as the director. (Although they put up his shitty Dexter episodes on HBO Max, didn't they?)

crystalhearts

this was a good one! it's fun when you cover good cartoons but boy, I prefer bad cartoons or bad episodes of interesting or significant cartoons.

Robert Flaxman

In hindsight it’s very odd how many cereals based their late 80s-to-mid-90s advertising around a character trying to steal it from someone else.

Robert Flaxman

I think the restaurant name is a reference to the Château de Fontainebleau, which was a residence of French kings southeast of Paris for a number of centuries. A little searching suggests there was a restaurant in Hollywood in the early 60s called the Fontainebleau, so it might have been taken directly from that, but the name of that restaurant was surely inspired by the palace.

rubber cat

I watched a bunch of Burns & Allen on MeTV and never made the connection the neighbor was Betty Rubble. Interesting show, very meta. George Burns can turn on his TV and watch the show to see what the other characters are doing.

Tricia

I laughed way too hard at that “Rock-vid” joke but I feel like some sort of anniversary thing should’ve happened in 2020, maybe the way Mickey Mouse gets a celebration in his 70s and 80s

PurpleComet

You guys mentioning that John K did a few Yogi Bear shorts unlocked a memory from 20 years ago. I called my mom from my dorm room at college and she mentioned that Cartoon Network had put out a "horrible" new Yogi Bear cartoon. She said the character designs were ugly and Boo Boo was "gross". As soon as you mentioned John K I knew those had to be the cartoons she saw. I looked them up on YouTube and they seem to fit her description. I'll have to ask her about it next time I see her.

tiny crow

As a kid of the 2000s, I feel like my generation was the last that Warner’s tried to legitimately market the Flintstones too. Not just through the nonstop tidal wave of Pebbles or vitamin commercials, but through the original ‘60s series on Boomerang or The WB website. As a kid, I never liked Flintstones and I fell your assessments of this episode sum up my problems with the show: it’s an important series that’s just too overwritten, dull, and supremely bigoted to enjoy today. Season 1 is definitely more tolerable with its George Nicholas and Carlo Vinci animation (and the voice cast is perfect). But to me, it’s the perfect example of a landmark show that’s not fun to watch despite its significance. Although it’s definitely more watchable than the Saturday Morning spin-offs of the 70s. Great episode as always!!~

Patrick Risolo

And yet on The Simpsons we're all still waiting for Homer to meet an alien named Ozmodiar whom only he can see.

Joe Hodgson

80s/90s kids were sort of the last to grow up with Hanna Barbera products just being always on television. Like our esteemed hosts, I can remember watching a lot of The Flintstones despite not actually liking it. I didn't hate it, but it was just on and I watched too much TV. It's also easy to forget how the franchise persisted into the 90s with stand-alone specials and the like such as A Flintstone Family Christmas, which even got a network timeslot. Mostly, I remember how this was one of the few cartoons I can recall my mom ever making observations about. I distinctly remember her pointing out how Barney has those hollow eyes in the early seasons vs solid black ones in the later ones. I guess that's just due to her, being a 60s kid, having grown up with the property. The marketing though is where The Flintstones will apparently live forever. I never had Flintstones vitamins growing up because they were the "expensive" vitamins and I had to make due with store brand zoo animals. I never did care for the cereal, but it's funny how so many cereals of that era did the whole Trix bunny thing (I don't know where the concept originated) of characters denying cereal to another character, in this case Fred always keeping Barney from eating Pebbles. In another tale of Joe Hodgson's Christmas VHS, I mentioned how A Garfield Christmas was the one that got away, well the Christmas Fruity Pebbles commercial is the commercial equivalent. It aired right after the end of How the Grinch Stole Christmas and my mother, not foreseeing how nostalgic commercials would become, pressed stop on the VCR right as the commercial began. I die a little inside each time I see it. And even without that holiday favorite being on the VHS I watched countless times, I can still recite every word of that commercial from memory. We were so indoctrinated with commercials as a generation.

About to Happy

Props for the Skidoo! mention. I think I taped (yes, taped) it off TCM like a decade ago and still haven't watched it. And Henry's emphasis on how good the show itself looks on HBOMax is also appreciated and seconded. I will also add that for everything that makes it boring or the hilariously outdated gender politics, it's not devoid of charm. There are gags that land and there are nice little flourishes in the character animation from time to time when the moment warrants it, despite all the necessary shortcuts. It might be a show best enjoyed as GIFs (quick, someone build Flint-iac.) I know The Man Called Flintstone did air at least a few times on TV in the '90s, I think on Disney Channel back when it was a premium cable offering, because I seem to remember it being commercial free. (It may also have been HBO before they were cousins with Turner, or possibly on TNT.)

About to Happy

And now a couple musical moments. The Saturday Morning Cartoon's Greatest Hits album has come up more than once, and does in fact feature "Open Up Your Heart and Let the Sun Shine In" as performed by Frente! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SPxgW0lSjA Maximum Carnage superstars Green Jellÿ also covered Anarchy in the UK but changed the setting to Bedrock and made a delightfully goofy and '90s-as-hell music video for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbNlaNYWa68

Gavi Raab

Most of my Flintstones watching occured on Saturday nights. This was because I tended to sleep over a friend's house on Saturday nights. We needed a show to quickly change to when we heard his mom coming down to the basement to check in on us and we didn't want her to know what we were really watching: South Park.

y2kpodcst

is it weird that the rules that the great gazoo has the same set of rules as that of god in the show god the devil and bob both can only be seen by the main male character and there kid both will randomly disappear throughout the episode except god has a reason why he's gone where gazoo does not.

KaiserBeamz

Flintstones was one of those Hanna-Barbera shows I liked as a kid, but not as much as Scooby-Doo or The Jetsons, which we're definitely more quick-paced compared to the modern stone age family sitcom. But I had a thought while listening to this episode. In the late 50s to early 60s, there appeared to be a miniature boom of prehistoric/cavemen media. One of the big musical hits of 1960 was The Hollywood Argyles' "Alley Oop", a song about another, lesser known cartoon caveman of the same name. In 1961, Disney had their famous public film "Donald and the Wheel" where Donald was portrayed as a cave-duck. And let's forget the realm of B-movies with films like Teenage Caveman and Eegah! So I guess the reason why The Flintstones did so well right out of the gate was not just the novelty of being the first prime time cartoon, but because cavemen were a hot pop cultural commodity in those days.

RVG

What is a sitcom? A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough pod... Have at you!

Scott Gerrard

I was born in 1997 so I grew up in the early 2000s. In the UK around 2004-2006 I remember BBC Two airing episodes of The Flintstones alongside The Munsters and occasionally Top Cat (which was called Top Boss in the UK when it first came out due to name similarities to cat food I believe). For some reason I recorded every episode I could of the Flintstones, despite not liking it nearly as much as the Munsters.

Brian Hortin

I’d like to recommend the Flintstones educational film Energy: A National Issue to any fans of the original Flintstones. It is the final production to feature Alan Reed as Fred. It’s a weird time capsule about the 70’s energy crisis in the US and narrated by Charlton Heston. Despite this Fred and Wilma have a very sweet and sentimental quality in this. There is an unfortunate segment of a musical number where Fred imitates various nationalities which hasn’t aged well, but otherwise it’s pretty good if you like outdated edutainment. https://youtu.be/g6qxUBEuGAQ

Joshua Bjork

I forgot to share this when you guys did the Scooby Doo episodes so I'll share it here: someone in my partner's family (I think her uncle?) used to work for Hanna-Barbera. She has several personalized pieces of various H-B characters like George Jetson and Yogi Bear from when she was a kid and would ask her relative to give her pictures for her birthday. Her family knew Iwao Takamoto and my partner has a Scooby Doo poster in her condo signed by Iwao https://imgur.com/32tC7jB

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Obviously this cartoon is incredibly important in the history of cartoons but my god is watching it as an adult in 2021 an experience in patience. Say what you will about the issues with OG Scooby-Doo, but revisiting that was SO MUCH MORE FUN than coming back to this show.