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What A Cartoon! - The Adventures of Rocky And Bullwinkle "Rue Britannia Finale" (Patreon)

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Hokey smokes! Chosen by premium Patreon subscriber Phil, it's time to cover one of the most important (and best) TV cartoons ever made, Rocky And Bullwinkle! We delve deep into Cold War history to chart how this show blazed a trail for smart writing in kids TV, its crossover appeal to adults, its enduring legacy, and so much more. Then we discuss the finale of the season 2 classic "Rue Britannia " (freely available on YouTube), so listen and enjoy our friends Moose and Squirrel!

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Vulpes

I was listening to an old(ish) show yesterday and you guys mentioned that you'd definitely be covering Bullwinkle soon (it was during the UPA episode). A search revealed nothing, and then this appeared hours later. Given the result, I for one appreciate the brain interface chip you guys managed to get inserted into the covid vaccine. I loved this show as a kid for reasons I could never explain at the time. It was primitive and cheap in appearance, but pre-Simpsons it was one of the very few cartoons which felt like it was not talking down to me. I felt like I was in on some form of code they were sneaking past adults. The comparison with Hannah Barbara, and especially Disney, was night and day. Unrelated, but you guys have been doing great work during the covid long march. Along with the Duckfeed boys, you've kept me sane during an extremely isolating period. My partner is also stuck across the US/Canada border, so Bob and Nina's struggle hits close to home. Obviously we're not unique in this situation, but hearing Bob talk about the challenges has been a balm for the soul. Congratulations on navigating the bureaucracy and getting married! The trip I booked to do the same happened to coincide with a severe covid lockdown, which made in person marriage certification impossible (a problem which I now realize can be solved by train tickets and a snorkel). The Detroit river isn't poison, right? Anyway, enough of my insomniac rambling. I'm excited for this episode, and you guys have been the best para-social companions during the plague years. I don't know where I'd be without you. It's a vicarious thrill to see how far you've come since the initial Patreon launch, and the quality of your output has never been better (the old shows were great, but 2.5 hour Simpsons episodes are obviously superior to 35 minute episodes).

Mr. Neil

This was a genuinely great episode, with your trademark exhaustive research and insightful commentary! Speaking of Rocky and Bullwinkle's bad audio quality - I can remember it being even worse! When aired in the 90s on Cartoon Network, I distinctly remember hearing audio "ghosting". Specifically, when the audio was supposed to be silent, you could hear the voice tracks from other episodes way low in the mix. This is a remnant of reused magnetic tape, where unless you specifically did a few passes with an erase write head, a tiny bit of the magnetic charge would be left on the tape, leaving the original recording very subtly present. Not surprising Jay Ward studios wouldn't have the time or resources to do it the right way, so had to settle for good enough. I always hoped the old muted remnants would have consisted of outtakes that could have somehow been salvaged (which would have been a Herculean task if even possible). Realistically, it was probably just other episodes before they were struck to film. Nowadays, for the the DVD, they mixed the remnant audio out, and even re-recorded segments with a sound alike voicing the narrator! Though, I'm still more upset that they used new music for the bridging segments, and did a literal hackjob to rebrand the series, eliminating animation to insert new text. Did they really think kids would be confused if they saw the title "Rocky and his Friends" instead of "Rocky and Bullwinkle"?

Harry Thornton

The first American cel-animated show outsourced to Japan was the 1966 Toei-animated The King Kong Show for Rankin/Bass. Besides that milestone, it's also notable for being loosely adapted as the live-action King Kong Escapes by Toho, and the Godzilla film "Ebirah, Horror of the Deep" was once going to be a Kong film until they rejected it for not featuring more elements from the cartoon. To add to the Dreamworks Peabody and Sherman film discussion, a Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon was supposed to accompany it in theatres, until it was pulled at the last minute and then put on the Blu-Ray, but ONLY the 3D one for some odd reason.

MilesDX

The character you were thinking if is named Tom Slick. Tom Terrific is the one from Wacky Races. Though, honestly they are kind of interchangeable.

Paul

When I was a kid there was something about the voices on this show that were off-putting to me and I've never been able to figure out what. Got reference I think I'm the same age as Bob. But especially Rocky's voice bothered me. Which is strange because I've heard the same voice in other cartoons where it didn't.

Mr. Neil

I'm sure you've already looked it up, but the 'Ptomaine' Lettuce gag, is that ptomaine is a very old fashioned way of saying "Food Poisoning". Bill Scott is one of the few people who could make actual funny puns that work both as a malapropism and as a literal statement.

Patrick McClafferty

I remember borrowing those artwork named VHS from the local library. It's how I saw most of the episodes as a kid.

Frank Grimes

Used to love watching this show on nickelodeon

ToonJay723

The 2000 film is one of my guilty pleasures. It's one of those so bad it's good films. Shame it didn't win the May movie poll. As for the DreamWorks Peabody and Sherman film, I liked it. Behind the Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon films, it one of the better DreamWorks movie in the 2010s era.

mavrick

im guessing the Frank McHugh / Anchors Aweigh connection has to do with his extensive USO touring during WWII

Kat Heagberg

This episode made for one of the most enjoyable Monday mornings I’ve had in a good long while. Thank you so much for the research you put into it and a truly entertaining couple of hours. I’m also going to check out the book Henry recommended at the beginning of the episode. On a related note, do any other old millennials (and possibly others?) remember the Morris and Boris children’s books? As a child, I borrowed a few from the library thinking the Moose on the cover was Bullwinkle, and the titular Boris was Boris Badenov, and when I realized that wasn’t the case, it was the first time I had the thought “this is a terrible, blatant rip-off!” Was it? Or was it just coincidence?

nina matsumoto

Can someone please explain the ruby yacht joke

Graeme Black Robinson

First of all, I've really been enjoying the Henry impressions lately. Very good Bullwinkle, and your Marge just keeps getting better. Or at least funnier. Does anyone know what kind of impact Rocky and Bullwinkle had in Japan? Maybe it was all the talk of rockets blasting off in this episode, but I couldn't help but see a line between Boris & Natasha and Pokemon's Jesse and James. Specifically with the heroes never seeing through the paper thin disguises and the villains ability to construct elaborate machines. I found some reference to the show being syndicated in Japan. I wonder if it had a big influence on the anime creators of subsequent generations?

nina matsumoto

I never liked this show as a kid (or rather I didn't "get" it) but listening to clips of it now on this podcast, I'm impressed by how funny the writing is. The narrator really makes it.

Joe Hodgson

I kind of hated this show when I was a kid. As was pointed out, this was often in the 7:30 timeslot on Nick so it was the last "kid" show of the day. I watched a lot of this and Speed Racer on MTV despite not really liking either because it was on and I only had dominion over the TV for so long before my parents took over. Revisiting it as an adult though is a lot more entertaining. There's a lot of corn present, but it's chuckle-inducing and I love that the voice cast did work for Rankin Bass as it conjures memories of Christmas specials in my head. Every time you guys touch on one of these old shows that had some air play on Nickelodeon in the 90s it just reminds me how weird of a channel that thing used to be and it definitely hits me right in the nostalgia feels.

Ryan Kertai

Canadian millennial here. Yeah, we got reruns of the show in the 80s and 90s too, so we're as aware as anyone about Dudley Do-Right. I don't recall feeling insulted or anything about Canadian representation at the time. If anything, any time a popular American comedy thing even acknowledged Canada, it was a treat to feel included.

Byron Lagrone

Growing up, my parents allowed me Rocky & Bullwinkle on VHS but I had to wait until the DVDs came out and I had a job (unmonitored income) to get the Simpsons. From that very esoteric metric, I can say that the joke density is definitely what made R&B so delightful to me, and I was ecstatic to hear you cover it. Between that and Spongebob next week, I'm only saddened that we can't afford more WAC all the time forever (while understanding that you both need time to recharge between recordings). Way to go, and thank you much.

Christmas Ape

I always get a kick out of the WAC subjects that are still entertaining as just audio clips. I remember watching the reruns of this show as a kid, but at that time I didn't look at it as being any different from most other old cartoons I watched, like Yogi Bear. Now, I feel like I can better appreciate the quality of the writing, especially compared to everything else from the same time period. One obscure spin-off of Rocky & Bullwinkle that I've learned about recently is a series of Chuck E. Cheese-style family fun centers called Bullwinkle's Restaurant that started popping up in the eighties, complete with animatronic versions of the characters. The only reason I know about it is because an older coworker of mine has told me stories of being employed as the guy wearing the full Bullwinkle costume. Shockingly, there are two or three locations still open in the US.

y2kpodcst

Hi bob and henry just wanted to say that i really enjoyed this episode of wac however this is a friendly reminder that no one is immune from cop agenda since that is what the Dudley do right is. He works for the royal Canadian mounted police. Canada’s police force and even if Dudley is a god dam idiot he still is competent enough to beat snidely at the end of cartoons. The real rcmp (which have only been around for about 100 years) is just as racist as the one in the US and was made only because a workers strike broke out in Winnipeg and the provincial police were so incompetents' that the government made the rcmp for that reason of squashing anything like that happening again. just thought it was worth brining up. also at least in my experience if you bring Dudley up to a Canadian that isn't 50 years old or watched the live action movie then they probably have no idea what your talking about since it didn't get played a lot in Canada

Devin Hoffarth

This podcast really reminded me why when it came to animated prime time TV shows of this era it was always Rocky and Bullwinkle > Anything Hanna Barbera. Looking back the only thing I find really annoying about Rocky and Bullwinkle was all the reused footage. I know the show was cheap but it's really a drag to sit through the same 2-3 minutes of animation every episode. ALSO AP AP AP... HENRY. Lemme put on my pedantic nerd hat and say that Underdog, Commander Mcbrag and Tennessee Tuxedo were NOT made by Ward but by a man named W. Watts Biggers. He used very similar production styles to Rocky and Bullwinkle so the shows do run together a bit, confounding the issue further is that some of those shorts did appear on Rocky in Bullwinkle in syndication, probably tied up in all sorts of legal bull crap. I do agree however that Underdog is definitely a lesser show to Rocky.

RVG

Oh know Bob, you've awoken my inner pedant! Buttermilk isn't fattier milk. It's generally lower fat than common 2% milk. Traditionally it's the leftover liquid from butter churning, hence it's name. It's notably tangy due to high lactic acid concentration and not particularly palatable, at least to Americans. It is served as a beverage in India, however: often with spices or fruit flavoring. It is indispensable for scratch made pancakes and waffles, and the South wouldn't have biscuits without it.

Manic Rainbow

What a great show. I’m so glad you guys have finally gotten to one of the major building blocks of animation comedy. My only gripe is that you say the animation “sucks”... I mean I get why people would think that, but I just think it is perfect for what it is. To me it is an excellent pair with the style of the show. With Bullwinkle as well as Charlie Brown, I feel they they would feel odd with more fluid animation. Either way this was a great episode boys, can’t wait for the next one.

John-Charles Holmes

Oh man, this episode really brought me back. I have very strong memories of being sick for a week or two in middle school and there, for some reason, just happened to be a DVD set of S2 of Rocky & Bullwinkle in my house. I hadn't seen the show since random airings on Nick or Cartoon Network, so this was my first time watching the show as a cognizant older TV viewer and man oh man, I could believe how well the writing held up. Even listening to this episode I found myself having that same realization all over again. I must admit, the show's one major shortcoming is that it is FULL of time killers with credits, bumpers, and intros probably taking up half of the time, but honestly, watching it on DVD helps a lot where you could very VERY conveniently skip these bits in marathon watching. The show was on Netflix for some time where I did try watching it, only to find that not being able to easily skip around without chapter select made it a total slog. After this one, I think I might buckle down and finally buy a complete DVD set since a recent reprint of it seems to go for way way less than the original box set did for some time

tiny crow

An interesting anecdote mentioned in Keith Scott's book was DePatie-Freleng was in talks with Jay Ward to make a rebooted Rocky and Bullwinkle series. The arrangement was production would be handled at DFE but Jay Ward got to assemble the writing team and pick the voice actors. DePatie-Freleng was deep into adapting licensed properties in the '70s such as The Fantastic Four and Planet of the Apes, so I guess this was just Friz Freleng seeing another property to make a show for. They were in talks with UPA to produce more Mr. Magoo TV cartoons at this time, so it wasn't a completely strange deal for them. Before the 2018 Amazon series, it's just so fascinating how many failed attempts there were to bring back R&R. Even Disney tried and failed to make their own adaption. In fact, this failure how Thad Stones was able to pitch Darkwing Duck to Disney. http://michaelperaza.blogspot.com/2010/08/bullwinkled.html