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What A Cartoon Movie! - The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Patreon)

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When Jeffrey Katzenberg phoned Beauty and the Beast directors Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise and told them "you're making The Hunchback of Notre Dame," the two men—and the moviegoing public at large—had no idea how they could possibly adapt Victor Hugo's dark novel into a family friendly movie. Three years and some minor compromises later, Disney's adaptation of Hunchback entered the world, and amounted to one of the most experimental and mature films the company would ever make in its lifetime. And while Disney would create many great films in the quarter-century to follow, few have come close to taking the risks of Hunchback (even if it somehow got a "G" rating).

This month, our summer of the Disney Renaissance rolls on with an ultra-long discussion of 1996's The Hunchback of Notre Dame—just in time for its 25th anniversary! 

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Derek Ricioppo

I just watched this movie for the first time as a 31 year old since for whatever reasons, I just missed out on this one as a kid & I really enjoyed it

Kewl0210

Hoo boy, I can feel my back hunching already thinking about the next ... Holy shit 5 hours? Man these are getting long.

Tricia

I already feel like a dummy for not noticing this and Beauty and the Beast had the same directors, complete with the French settling, inanimate supporting cast, and man vs monster themes. Looking forward to all five hours of this!

Frank Grimes

When we finally get to the simpsons movie, I predict an 8 hour affair 🥳

Michael Branson

Yes your paying for quality also. These are always the most definitive conversations on these movies. Bob and Henry do a fantastic job on these and Im excited to listen. Thanks guys for the great work. Been around since the LT days and ill support you guys till you retire.

Lorin Bernsen

The red-headed stepchildren of the ‘90s Disney Renaissance—the ones most people don’t love & don’t talk about—are: Rescuers Down Under, Pocahontas, Hunchback, & Hercules. IMO, only ONE of those movies is bad, & at least 2 of them are very, very good.

Lorin Bernsen

After the fire in 2019 that destroyed part of Notre Dame, real-life gargoyle Ted Cruz made fun of Disney for contributing a large sum of money to its restoration. He “joked” that the company would probably install Mickey Mouse silhouettes in the stained glass windows. Clearly, the concepts of charity & helping your fellow man are lost on Cruz.

Kat Heagberg

I was 11 when this movie came out, and not quite as into it as Bob, but I was pretty into it and had the same "hey, Disney is growing up with me!" feeling. I remember reading and rereading the same '96 Entertainment Weekly feature, and the first half of the podcast brought up a ton of those facts/memories, like the popularity of the "Out There" t-shirts during Gay Days. Coincidentally, just yesterday a friend was telling me that his family went to Disney World during Gay Days during the '90s once and his non-gay dad wore a red shirt, and then made the whole family go back to the hotel so he could change. I asked "didn't your dad think that the fact that he was there with his actual and probably presumed wife signal his heterosexuality enough already?" And he just said "No, my dad is from Scranton." It sounds like one of those made up stories, but I don't know this person to be someone who would make things up, so it probably did go down like that. But anyway, that article was how I first learned that Gay Days were a thing at Disney and I thought it was super cool—I didn't realize (then) that they weren't actually supported or promoted by the park/corporation itself, so had this impression as a child that Disney was way more cool and progressive than it actually was.

Rico Casanova

I wore a licensed Hunchback graphic tee to my first day of Kindergarten. Now i’m turning 30, and I would move mountains to own that Quasimodo tee again. It’s my favorite first day of school Polaroid to show my friends.

Blake R.

this is the first movie I remember seeing in theaters and I was 3. Think Jason Alexander was right on the money. it's hazy but I remember being bored and exclusively the rainy, overcast scenes more than the bright and colorful Topsy Turvy stuff

ShyRanger

Uh Bob.... I'm not sure what "long" and "far in" is to you in terms of video games, but.... the Hunchback world in Dream Drop Distance.... it's the SECOND world in the game. I'm sure when you reviewed the game you didn't get to it because reviewers are basically forced to crunch only a couple hours, so yeah that makes sense. But yeah no you play it again and you'd get to Notre Dame in like first, maybe second, session. That being said, maybe don't because Dream Drop is arguably the worst KH game, YES worse than the older smaller DS games and the mobile one. Then again I look at these in an in-depth speed-run combat way so could just be that.

Sabrina

I watched this movie for the first time in advance of the podcast. I really liked it but was surprised by how dark it was. I guess that is because my memory of it before that was getting a whole bunch of Hunchback merch at my 9th birthday party, which was right around the time the movie came out. I also remember eating some sort of Hunchback ice cream novelties. it seems odd to think that a serious movie had fun ice cream to go along with it, but I guess that is the Disney way! When I went to Disney World 2019 and saw the show “Fantasmic” at Hollywood Studios I had no idea who Frollo was and I had to ask my friends why there was an evil priest lurking around. (Coincidentally, that trip to Disney was when I first started listening to the podcast! I needed something to listen to on the drive from NJ to FL. My friend suggested I get an audiobook but I found you guys instead!)

Mr. Neil

Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this one! I can't think of any other podcast that can make 5 hours just fly by! Just goes to show that Henry and Bob are the best out there at deep analysis that stays entertaining throughout!

Tashmon Dimps

I watched this film for the first time in prep for this podcast and WOW is it spectacular! Just seeing Quasimodo move is jaw dropping to me. The comedy bits definitely are a bit distracting, but god does the rest of the film make up for it.

Devin Hoffarth

I'll say this regarding Dreamworks 2D animation: Prince of Egypt is legitimately a great movie and a wonderful adaptation of the story of Exodus. Despite it being a religious tale it doesn't come off as preachy or judgemental as it wisely chooses to keep the conflict about the evils of slavery and the tension between estranged family. Obviously there are Christian elements but since it's all an old testament work it does manage to be a bit more ambiguous and doesn't shy away from the fucked up shit old YHWH did. If you did a WAC movie poll for 2D Dreamworks films I'd vote for that film in a heartbeat. As for the others? El Dorado is a... slightly problematic take on the old Bing Crosby movies. I'd say it's marginally better than Pochahontas in terms of how it treats its native characters but not by much. Spirit I haven't seen and Sinbad? Well... just be prepared for some really really REALLY dated CGI if you watch that movie it kinda makes the Hydra from Hercules look good.

Boyd Adkins IV

Listening to the podcast cast and hearing the part about the kiss all I could think of was “If you look closely you can actually pinpoint the exact moment his heart breaks in two”. Also, if you’re thinking of doing straight to dvd sequels I recommend Cinderella 3 and Lion King 1 1/2.

Lorin Bernsen

Hearing about the potential (and INSANE) casting of David letterman and Arsenio Hall as the gargoyles made me think of their appearance in the Tiny Toons movie.

TheShockmaster

Man, I know Disney has to make a lot of changes when they adapt something, but I can't believe they whitewashed Blunchblack of Blotre Blame like this.

Joey Joe Joe Shabadoo

This movie came out and I was 10 years old. I remember being scared by it and I hadn't watched it again until this podcast was announced. I purchased the VHS and watched it and I was TOTALLY right to be scared by this movie. Tony Jay is terrifying and I don't know how I processed his song about lust. But watching this as an adult I super overlooked it. Bob and Henry are right this is a great movie. It's very interesting to see the two conflicting sides of Christianity represented in this movie. What the church is supposed to represent portrayed by the deacon (caring for others less fortunate) vs. it's history and actions over the past few centuries represented in Frolo (racism, genocide and judgement of those who are different). This movie has deep thematic symbolism that makes me question if this movie was for kids at all.

Nicholas S Anderson

Great episode! You guys are time wizards. 5 hours but so entertaining it seemed like 1.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

This IS a very quality movie that holds up about as well as I remember liking it as a kid, cause I guess I was also an odd duck who had this somewhere in my favourite Disney movies (though not #1 like Bob). In revisiting them so closely, while there's objectively a lot that makes this film better than Hercules, I do think I actually had a little more fun with Hercules (plot holes and all), which I would not have expected. That being said, it is ALSO not my favourite, so here's holding out hope we'll get a Mulan podcast some day. -- Also how long until Disney tries to do their own live-action versions of Hunchback and Hercules at this point?

To Boldly Joe... Moore

Awesome work, guys! Nice to see this movie getting some well-deserved love. P.s. So glad you added that easter egg at the very end. Now this review is definitive. ^_^

Chris Dobson

Excited to hear that Bob's a fan of the novel, I read it as an adult and loved it, although it did make me like the adaptations a bit less, because they cut out so much good stuff to focus on the tragic love story angle. I was genuinely surprised how funny the novel was, and it's a shame that the play version, and ensuing movies remove some amazing scenes. The funniest bits: - a deaf judge thinks Quasi is making smart remarks when he gives his standard speech and Quasi (also deaf) just ignores him and grins. The judge gets madder and madder because the crowd keeps laughing at him when he yells at Quasi to keep quiet. - Djali is called to testify in court, and, because Esmeralda taught him a trick to impress Phoebus, spells the name "Phoebus" in wooden blocks, which incriminates Esmeralda (Phoebus is presumed dead). - Gringoire, given a choice to save Esmeralda or Djali, saves Djali, reasoning that someone else will save her, but nobody else will save the goat. -Frollo has a fail-brother, Jehan, who is a student at the University of Paris, who is constantly trying to come up with schemes to get beer money. Honestly watching the Simpsons really is a Rosetta stone for appreciating what could be dry 19th Century satire, because Hugo is very specifically satirizing the church, the courts, and the crown (Louis XI appears and, in a Disney version, would be played by Scrooge McDuck), the same way the Simpsons mocks authority as corrupt and ineffective at best. There are some dry parts that are abridged in a lot of adaptations, but even those are interesting because there just is no modern novel that will halt everything to have a character give a monologue on the importance of architecture.

Thrillhouse Cycling

Fantastic episode, folks! This sustained me for a little over half of my drive from Calgary to Vancouver through insane dense wildfire smoke. Welcome back to Vancouver, Bob!

MilesDX

If you ever get the chance to see it, there is a live musical of Disney's Hunchback that is just amazing. It actually skews closer to the book, the offense terminology is mostly fixed, Esmeralda is killed at the end and dies while being embraced by Quasimodo while in the catacombs. Soon after the play flashes forward to see their bony remains found in the future only for them to turn to dust. Though, what I love most is Quasimodo is shown as being deaf and during his musical numbers, which is mostly sung off key, the gargoyle's interpret for him via sign language. The entire play is also sung with little to no spoken dialogue.

Melissa Van Pelt

OK, I'm finally going back through the What A Cartoon! Movie podcasts to listen to them (definitely makes working from home easier and more entertaining), and I thought your mention of the opera adaptation of this novel with happier endings was so interesting, because I saw a stage musical adaptation in the early 2000s, which (SPOILER alert) actually did reinstate the novel's initial tragic ending: Phoebus ends up in the unhappy arranged marriage; Esmeralda is hanged; Quasimodo, in grief, throws Frollo off the cathedral tower and then promises he will stay with Esmeralda even through death. So I just thought that was so interesting that initially the operatic adaptation went away from the initial tragic ending, and then this other stage musical returned to the novel's original ending. But I LOVED this podcast so much; now I'm going to have to go re-watch the movie again.