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As we head back to the 1970s to hear about Homer and Marge falling in love, we're joined by our third member from the band & podcast The Sloppy Boys, writer/director/musician Jeff Dutton! Jeff joins us for an important chapter in Simpsons history, as the family is left with no choice but to do their first flashback episode after their TV set breaks. Not only do we see true love blossom, but we also see the first McBain, the first Jon Lovitz, and so much more, all in one podcast!

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Cossover

Go look at the tmnt the last ronin comic for the thing you talk about

Joe Hodgson

Nice to hear a fellow former Southern NH resident on the pod. I must confess that Jeff is not someone in my orbit, but I'm definitely curious what town he grew up in because we probably lived nearby since it's such a small region and it sounds like we're roughly the same age. I can confirm his pronunciation of crayon is accurate to what I grew up with. As someone who has watched the 1990 TMNT movie many, many, times and has had to have the "damn" talk with my own kids (My son to his little sister, "No, Riley, you're supposed to say 'damn' when you're Raph."), I have it imprinted in my brain when the word is said. It's first said very early when Raph is peeking out from under the manhole cover and spies April swiping his sai. He then repeats it shortly after when the music cuts and he's about to enter the sewer lair. He then makes it a trifecta, with the infamous scream after Casey gets away. I actually didn't associate the word with the list of swear words every kid learns at an early age and had to reprimanded by my own parents when acting out as Raphael not long after seeing it. This episode is one that gets just too Brooksy for me in the last act. Homer's sad sack routine outside the auditorium and closing moments in the car is too much. I can't decide if his whole "I got a problem," speech at the end is too clever for the character, or appropriately sappy in the sense that he may have heard a similar line on television or in a movie and he's regurgitating it here. I just find myself disappointed with Marge that she'd fall for such a corny line and it's the foundation for their relationship, but I suppose that's part of her character and we're supposed to think she's too good for Homer. This one ends up being probably my least favorite of the flashback stories as a result. And jus to follow-up on some questions raised during the podcast, I would say we got a brief look at Grandpa's parental shortcomings in Bart the General. He at least looks like a bad role model in encouraging Bart to essentially wage war against Nelson. And I think Artie first comes back in The Front when they see him at the high school reunion and we find out he's filthy rich.

Frank Grimes

Haha welcome freshmen. Walter was the stupid one who flunked like in season 2....and mom and dad save the world is an HBO classic. Watched it a ton growing up next to don't tell mom the babysitters dead

Elliot Long

My grandpa had a VHS tape with a bunch of Ray Stevens music videos on it, so I am very familiar with all his many hits. If you're interested in another Ray Stevens banger about dated perverse acts, look up "It's me again Margaret."

Zachary Nie

I once had a similar experience as your guest, Jeff Dutton. About 10 years ago, I was bumming around Skywalker Ranch with my friend who was working on the Clone Wars. There was plenty of LucasFilm memorabilia, but there were also original Norman Rockwells. My friend said, “Yeah, I guess between the two of them, Lucas and Spielberg own most of his originals.”

To Boldly Joe... Moore

Loved the podcast, guys! Your chat about licensed music being used in TV and films, including Henry's comments about Quentin Tarantino, reminded me of the Pulp Fiction Collector's Edition soundtrack. On it, you'll find sixteen whole minutes of Quentin talking about the way he chooses music for his films. In fact, in some ways, it's actually the other way around. He starts by going through his old records looking for songs that set the mood he wants and then figures out a narrative to tie them all together. I think that's probably better than trying to match retro hits to already written/filmed scenes. That's it. Just felt like sharing. Keep up the awesome work. ^_^

Alex Forsyth

I wonder if while Homer was walking in the mud, Ned was doing his first fog walk.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

The way this episode views feminism IS very bad & dated and as you guys briefly touched on, I really do wish they had some goddamn women in the room in the first... decade (essentially) so that stuff around Marge and just political takes in general would be a little more nuanced. -- In terms of prom, I went to a school that was 7-12 so the middle school was partitioned off into one wing, while high school was the rest of the building. Non-seniors used to have dances as well, but when I was in 7th grade, they banned them because too many horny disgusting teens were grinding all the time, so after *1* dance in 7th grade, I didn't go to any kind of prom things until senior prom. I went stag with a group of friends, since the 2 people I had any kind of flings with were over long before that and I was no longer talking to either of them. I *was* going to ask one of my friends to go "together" after I was nudged to do it by a mutual friend (because I'm an idiot who doesn't think of things, often) but another of her friends did it first, so I had a real "d'oh!" moment. It was still a decently fun event, I got to hang out with friends and afterwards a bunch of us basically just drank and played video games, so I can't really complain and I'm glad I went for stupid random memories.

littleterr0r

It's 1:37 in the morning and I *just* got back from a friend's house streaming the Simpsons arcade game so that yelling sound is so fresh in my mind.

Tony Bones

I love that every time the wax coloring implements come up you have ask the guest their pronunciation. In the east coast specifically the Philly era we pronounce it the same way we say the golden thing a king wears, a “crown”.

Adam Voyde

Jeff used the word "fumfer". Had to look it up. That's going in the vocabulary.

Kurono

The origin of the bra-burning feminist trope is likely a protest against the Miss America beauty pageant in 1968. There is a Wikipedia article about it, simply titled Miss America protest and with a paragarph called "Origin of "bra-burning". Long story short. There was a trash can which was (or was not) lit on fire and in this trash can may have been bras.

Guybrush

I always heard Marge as saying "my prom date" but the captions and Frinkiac say "hi, prom date." Just now, I listened one more time and finally heard "hi."

littleterr0r

As a kid I never knew that Homer said "for you" in French. Stupid kids.

KaiserBeamz

As a love of old music, I need to point out that Van McCoy's "The Hustle" being played in this episode is actually an anachronism. This episode specifically takes place in 1974. "The Hustle" was released as a single on April 18, 1975 where it would be the song of the summer and help usher disco in as a mainstream force. Another, less egregious musical anachronism is in the scene where Homer is in his bedroom listening to Average White Band's funk classic "Pick Up the Pieces." While that song did come out in 1974, it wouldn't come out until July of that year. This episode is implied to take place in Spring. I will say this, the musical anachronisms in this are way more forgivable than the one's made in "That 90s Show."

Erin Hardy

I saw TMNT in the theater with my 5-y.o. brother and my mom. I remember him excitedly recounting the film to my dad and quoting Raphael's "daaaaaaaaaamn!" without understanding that it was a curse word. My dad just laughed it off but I, as an oldest kid, was saddened that he got away unpunished with this freebie.

Dylan Carroza

First time commenting here! I actually wanted to follow up about what you were saying about using songs in movies. It's funny because I have never seen once upon a time in Hollywood but out of time is my favorite rolling stones song and since I was a kid my dad has always said it makes him think of the movie "coming home." And this was not a small independent movie or anything, it actually was nominated for 8 academy awards and won 3 in 1978. I think it's funny how you both see it as a unique song choice that no one has used before but if my dad heard you say that he would absolutely throw a fit. Regardless, I love the fact it was used in both movies just because of the fact it exposed our generation to an awesome, underappreciated rolling stones song.

nic

i went to high school in the 2010s and we still had a “just far enough off school property” area for the students who smoked. depending on how rowdy you were feeling, it was either called ‘smokers’ row’ or ‘stoners’ row.’ the school cop could often be found mingling with the smokers at lunch when he wasn’t practicing bike tricks in the outdoor sitting area. it was also generally the spot you went if you wanted to buy xanny or coke but that was kept very hush hush mostly through the threat of violence.

Stephen C. Nedell

In my school we had both a Junior prom, which was in the gym, and a Senior Ball which was in a rented venue (mine was in a vintage theater). By the time this episode aired I had been to two proms and was prepping for my third...of five total. I never dated a girl in my own grade, so my dates were all either older or younger. I don't recall a school approved after party for the Junior proms but at my Senior Ball, I won a small color TV!

nalem

While listening to this "Pfft? Elliott Gould hot? No way" *Googles* "WOAH"