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Once more we've got Alex Navarro from Nextlander returning, and he's here to give us insight as a person who plays drums AND worked on The Beatles: Rock Band! As Marge rediscovers her artistic talent, Homer wants to lose weight, and somehow Ringo Starr solves all of their problems. So join us for discussions on water parks, weight loss, artistic talents, drumming ability, the word "genitalia" and so much more!

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Rhys

I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy this podcast so much that I'll hang it on me wall.

nina matsumoto

re: the Arizona water park death, it wasn't the water slide he got stuck in but a vertical steel tube supporting the water slide, which I think is even worse. You can see pics of it here (no you don't see his body): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635479/Man-presumed-dead-getting-stuck-water-slide-support-pipe-Arizona-pool.html I've never had a non-supportive art teacher! They've all been great. My high school art teacher especially -- she's asian and her brother collects comic book pages, so she was super cool with my manga art. I was also in a computer graphics class where I just did a bunch of digitally-drawn manga art and constantly got As.

Erin Hardy

No THOH has chilled me as much as that scene of the group of kids rounding the blind curve in the water tube, then suddenly realizing they're also going to get stuck.

Lockerus

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Frank Grimes

I love the subtle detail of homer's happy face shorts turning into a sad face

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

I'm glad y'all talked about the uncomfortableness of Homer's farmer's tan because honestly TO THIS DAY whenever I see this episode my brain is very confused if it is meant to be read as a farmer's tan or Homer wearing a tank top so ratty, tight, and wet that he may as well not be wearing it at all. Given the joke change that his shorts go through in the episode & it dealing with him wanting to lose weight, I was never sure which was the answer. -- Ms Hoover's line of "he's bad, but he'll die, so I like it" is absolutely ICONIC to me. These days, with us finding out that an actor or celebrity or general public figure has secretly been a monster for decades, I think about it a lot when I'm revisiting old media I still really like that has someone awful in it (like David Fincher's Se7en).

Chris Dobson

That 3 second piece of animation of the kids coming around the corner and seeing Homer's giant head screaming is such an awesome piece of animation, and is immediately followed by the :crowd booing: meme where Homer looks so strange and just completely defeated. Definitely my highlight on a rewatch.

Drew Waranis

Yay, my alma mater, UCSB, and its shitshow dorm got mentioned. Fun fact, I took classes with Charlie Munger's grandson when we both went there.

Kat Heagberg

When I was a kid, my dad lost his wedding ring on a water slide at Cedar Point — and someone actually found it in the vast swampy grossness. Somehow my child brain swapped this with this episode — I misremembered that Homer lost then found his wedding ring and my DAD got stuck on a tube slide. I remember being like “Dad! Remember when you got stuck on that slide at Cedar Point?!” And my dad was very confused. The next time I saw this episode in syndication I realized my error. Also, a couple of years ago my husband convinced me to go on some water slides at Dorney Park in Pennsylvania, and it was honestly really fun. Water slide technology has definitely increased since the ‘90s—like, they literally shoot you down a giant tube Futurama-style and it’s a blast. I wouldn’t go out of my way to go to a water park, but I also wouldn’t turn a good tube-shoot down.

Alex Forsyth

The blood bank line is from Hard to Kill. My mom's second husband loved the early Segal films and they played non stop in our house. My brother used to hide and startle people by yelling "how does it feel to know you're about to die?". A 5 year old probably shouldn't have been watching those movies but hey.

Joe Hodgson

I grew up in New Hampshire where for some reason there was an abundance of water parks, even though their season is quite short. The biggest one was Water Country (which I think is different from Water Country USA that Alex referenced) and if you mention it to anyone who grew up in the area they will most likely immediately recite the commercial jingle. I only went a couple of times though because one of the only traumatic experiences of my youth occurred at Water Country when I got separated from my group and a brutal thunderstorm descended upon us rapidly. Everybody had to shelter in place and I wound up in the lost kids section, a truly miserable place. And to top it all off, I lost my very 90s Bugs Bunny and Taz t-shirt featuring them in "urban" stylings that day. I'm still in mourning.

RVG

Great ep as always and congrats to Henry on the continued success with his body goals. Speaking as someone whose weight has probably varied between Bob's and Hank's in his adult life, the one thing nobody tells you is that the "maintenance phase" of a diet is a myth. Pretty much whatever you do to reach a certain weight, your body will expect you to do in perpetuity to continue it, and much the same as if you stop lifting or running, you'll decline from whatever peak you reached. What prompted me to reply, however, was Bob's comments about "My 600lbs Life". I really don't love shows like (or Biggest Loser) as they're often quite exploitative and usually do more harm than good for their subjects. In particular he mentioned people that size struggling to adhere to 1200 per day calorie diets because they didn't know how to cook or season low-cal food to be enjoyable. I don't think that comment came from a bad place, but it really does reinforce the stereotype that fat people have the bodies they do because they are either stupid or lazy. To put it in perspective (and because Bob and I are the same height, I know the rough recommended calorie range we'd be in), a person whose 600lbs or more is probably eating something in the realm of 5000 to 9000 calories a day, depending on their height (and too many numerous other factors to name). That kind of calorie reduction might make sense if they're 20, 30, maybe even 50lbs overweight, but at that size, it's like asking Bob to live on 300 to 400 calories a day. Sure, he could do it for a while, but no matter how well he seasoned that tilapia, he wouldn't be able to continue on like that for very long. People's bodies and metabolisms adapt with their size (you see this near the end of Super Size Me) and simply put, that's a starvation diet for a person that large. What is perhaps most cruel about doctors recommending those kinds of extreme measures for people of that size is that it completely destroys one's metabolism and many of the other regulatory systems in the body. Women in that situation often stop having their period, for instance. And even if they do successfully achieve their target weight, not only will they likely gain much, if not all, of it back, but all the stress they put on their system will make future weight loss even harder. The best intervention for people in that situation is gastric bypass/bariatric surgery, but unfortunately it's care our lovely medical insurance system isn't keen on delivering (and in the case of My 600lbs Life, doesn't make for nearly as good TV). I don't say all of this to admonish Bob or Alex. If you've never lost or gained a lot of weight you've probably never thought too hard about these issues and I know you're just reacting to the jokes in the show. That said, body size and health is much more complex than the "fat unhealthy, thin healthy" narrative that's pervasive in not only our culture, but pretty much the whole world's. I also want to say, because nobody ever tells you this while you're losing weight, it's fine if you wind up fat, Henry, whether that's by your definition or a societal one. The important thing is to wind up healthy. And for anyone who is interested in delving more deeply into these issues, I'd recommend the podcast Maintenance Phase, which examines not only the weight loss industry, but other health and wellness myths.

To Boldly Joe... Moore

Every time I hear Ringo's voice, I get flashbacks to Thomas the Tank Engine (he was the original voice narrator in the UK version). ^_^ Thanks for the podcast. :)

Robert Flaxman

I was a big Beatles fan as a kid (and remain one), and one year thought it would be fun to play “Birthday” on a loop at my birthday party. I think it ran three or four times and then everyone agreed the gag had run its course and then some.

Robert Flaxman

I think I rode the exact flume ride that Henry mentioned when we took a vacation to California when I was 10 - it’s one of the few amusement park rides I’ve ever been on because I have pretty bad motion sickness and don’t do well with most coasters or anything else. In classic fashion, when the ride reached the bottom I slid forward and smacked my face into the pad at the front, breaking my glasses. The next year I went on the Tilt-a-Whirl at a friend’s birthday and it didn’t end well. And that was the end of my amusement park career!