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Talking Futurama - I Dated a Robot (Patreon)

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2022-03-14 04:00:03
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This month on Talking Futurama, we take a trip forward to the fantastical year of 3000-or-so, as well as a less-distant voyage to back the spring of 2001, when Napster commentary was still somewhat fresh. On a search for exciting new things to do in the future, Fry discovers an existing service that downloads a celebrity's personality into a robot you can make out with. But is there something darker lurking behind this seemingly innocent business that can provide you with a clone of Lucy Liu? Listen in to hear the disturbing answer, as well as secrets about the legend of Charlie's gold!

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Mark D Myers

Your kissing only theory is bunk!

Mark D Myers

I saw the 2019 movie it was so boring.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Honestly, the 2000 Charlie's Angels movie is pretty decent. It's trashy, has some dated ideas of what feminism is, and is still a bit too male-gazey, but the utter camp of Sam Rockwell and Crispin Glover is amazing, and the trio of women work pretty well together too. Lucy Liu has certainly been in better films, but I think this one has been hated on more than it deserves. -- Incidentally, them picking 2007 for the fake second sequel to it actually fits pretty well since Full Throttle would come out in 2003.

Cossover

So napster all the shows that talk about it say how bad it was. I forget what show say it took the guy money for a new pool. Sci-fi still show twilight zone all day on news years day

Cossover

Ok you say Rimmer that why I am here

Joe Hodgson

Napster was a game-changer when it first showed up and certainly a lot the hysteria around it from the recording industry was about fear of change. I suppose record stores had a legitimate concern since their business model was entirely dependent on physical sales (and they were right because they're all dead now), but the rest were just worried about any change to the present model. I personally used Napster like Bob in that I'd just check stuff out and if I liked it I'd buy it. I was really into foreign metal acts that weren't exactly easy to track down in a store, and since they'd be imports, the albums would cost 20 bucks or more so I definitely wanted to "try before I buy." I also knew plenty of people who were more than happy to only get music via Napster once it arrived. What sucks about it now is what it did and did not change about the industry. Before Napster, you had record companies and producers controlling everything and making money hand over fist. When I buy music, I want the artist to profit, not David Geffen. And now, it seems the current system has only shifted it even more in favor of the controlling parties. The industry is less profitable than it was, but Spotify is making all of the money and it seems only legacy acts are the ones making a ton of money these days because they still have enough clout to dictate their own terms (or in the case of Bob Dylan, they're just cashing out). When it comes to the entertainment industry, it seems artists are always getting the short end and it's the suits who profit the most.

Michael Bentley

As both the former hosted of the Bad Religion Podcast and the author of GameFAQ's longest guide to Crazy Taxi 2, I have two IMPORTANT corrections to the Crazy Taxi discussion in the intro. First, Bad Religion actually had four songs on the original soundtrack, although one is just a loop for the character select screen and the other appears over the credits. Second, it is possible to get good at Crazy Taxi and have long runs. However, this mostly relies on using the Limit Cut to give you a boost. Arcade owners could turn this off and thus it was very hard in most arcades to play for more than 5 or 10 minutes. But using this on the Dreamcast you could get runs of an hour+ if you were good enough. While Crazy Taxi seems like a simple concept, the first game captured something special that no sequel or clone I've played has been able to replicate.

Bradford A Barker

What's everyone's favorite fake Napster song? For me, the most memorable was a "Christina Aguilera" diss rap against Eminem.

nina matsumoto

Elementary is a great fun series and I've been meaning to pick it up again. Recommended for any mystery fan

Alex Forsyth

Can't speak for Crazy Taxi but there was a loop in Road Rage where I could do the same 3 or 4 fares in a row forever. I once tried to get all 1 million dollars in a single run but gave up at like 600K because I got tired of hearing "Can you take me home? Thieves stole my police car." I remember the game kept making the next "goal" $1 more then I had already earned until I caught up since 600k in one run went through several of them at once.

Harry Thornton

The idea of "Futuramarama" would later be used in the early Comedy Central episode "Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences": At Comic Con 3010, Matt Groening and David X. Cohen (playing themselves to likely get around the embarassing voice problem you guys also mention) announce Futurella, set in the year 4000, but we only see the logo before it gets immediately cancelled. Part of me kinda wishes it had gone on for a bit longer to see what "Futurama within Futurama" would look like. When the BBC Sherlock (the one with Benedict Cumberbatch) and Elementary were airing at the same time, there was a sort of weird rivalry between the two shows: Martin Freeman, who played Watson on the BBC show, called Lucy Liu an unattractive dog. He played it off as sarcasm, but knowing that behind-the-scenes he is (like many other celebrities) a legit asshole getting by on his fame and affable persona does raise an eyebrow for me personally. It's funny you guys mentioned Steam, because from what I last heard (dunno if this still applies) but Steam's agreement is that if it shuts down, they'll give you ISOs for all your game purchases. Also, Gabe Newell echoes your guys' sentiments so much that I'm surprised it didn't come to mind. Here's what he said in 2011 about piracy being more a problem of service instead of price: "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable.” For me I do miss physical media in the sense that there is a loss of ownership - in the digital age you can't own your media anymore, it's all in the whims of companies that can just take that access away. Out of all the '50s-era PSAs, "Don't Date Robots" reminds me the most of Sid Davis' Boys Beware, the infamously homophobic film conflating gay men with pedophilia.

Zac DeMarco

the first time i watched this episode i totally thought we were about to watch an episode about fry losing his hands only to regain them in the 3rd act. such a funny fuck you kind of joke like oh yeah this doesnt matter at all.

SilkiePJ

It's funny how while the criticisms of Napster in this episode are rather naive and petulant, this episode did make me think of more personal issues that come from sharing private information with private nudes pictures and the use of deepfakes. If in 2020 became can make algorithims to copy anything a Lucy Liu were to say or every part of her body; that could do a lot of damage depending on who was in control of images. Any argument that Napster would harm corporations or the industry is very laughable and more good tends to come from the sharing of art for easier/broader consumption. But I think on an individual level of copying somebody could probably lead to a deeper ethical conundrum.

I.C. Weiner

Everytime Henry and Bob condone piracy and pretend it is good actually I chuckle to myself because I know how upset they get when someone posts one of their Patreon episodes for free even though there is no way a single posting can possibly hurt their bottom line and all of their arguments as to why they were entitled to other people's content also applies to people stealing their's.

I.C. Weiner

I agree that this is a nuanced conversation and while I don't agree with everything articulated here I do feel like this is far more of a nuanced discussion regarding piracy then I have heard discussed on an episode which generally is very one sided without really acknowledging how piracy can be bad or have negative consequences. Like on this episode Bob concluded that Napster more or less (edit) made the music industry far more accessible (end edit) and set the market for the true value of music which is why it is free on Spotify now. When it is arguable--and I too don't particularly care if Metallica is hurt a few hundred grand or what have you--that music was so devalued by piracy that people have now been conditioned to pay $0.00 for music on demand and it has done incredible harm to that industry.

I.C. Weiner

Yea, you may be right. I'm not trying to argue that point in particular but more make the point that while you guys have long discussions regarding piracy, I don't think they are nuanced discussions or acknowledge the nuances. As an aside, I thought paying for podcasts was the dumbest thing in the world and I was of the opinion that they should be free. I found your podcast because of your beef with a certain conservative and after listening for 6 months or so I decided to take the plunge because I knew you and Henry wanted to expand your content but couldn't without support and you put out such great content how could I say no to paying the people that brought me so much entertainment and joy? Despite breaking my thought process for you guys, I still have only ever paid for one other podcast (WHM, which I found through your show). So, I think you definitely have it harder in the podcasting mines to convince people to pay for your content than musicians do.

I.C. Weiner

While this likely falls under the producing umbrella, I have also been amazed over the years at some of the guests they get. Guest booking definitely takes a lot of work and Bob/Henry are great at it! (Btw, if you are looking for a guest for a sports episode, in particular a baseball one, I would highly suggest the Distraction podcast hosts (one of Defector's podcasts, they are big Simpsons fans)) I reread my initial comment and I was far too hostile. I'm sorry about that, you don't need me coming off the top rope nor was it deserved, but I truly appreciate Bob and Nina's thoughtful responses

Komsomol General

I'm lost, what is Henry's position on Russia invading Ukraine? In the podcast it makes it sound like he is mocking people who think that Russia has a point in their bombing, but this was recorded before the invasion. Surely he's vocal about his opposition to the invasion to be consistent in his positions. Haven't listened in a while but love the show.

SomeBloke

I actually kind of wonder if the overloaded Scary Door at the beginning of this episode is there to lightly foreshadow the twist of the sex robots being made using evil head shocking mumbo jumbo. It’s tough to say, since Scary Door always seems like such a time filler bit (and the extended length of the fake PSA makes me think they had time to fill), but it’s certainly a relevant filler if that’s the case.

Rhomega

Fry mentioning the vampire and explosion before the scene makes perfect sense: he's seen it before. Probably my favorite Futurama joke.

PurpleComet

Is it weird that I saw that Madeleine Albright died and my first thought was to come here to discuss how she narrowly avoided the TS "curse"?