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What A Cartoon Movie! - Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Patreon)

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2022-04-25 04:00:00
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For any child of the '80s, one film's celebration of Golden Age cartoons will forever be burned in their memories, and that's why we're celebrating Who Framed Roger Rabbit on this massive podcast! We go deep into Roger's origins, the complex creation, the falling out of the creators, and we go scene-by-scene through every cameo, clue, and cartoon cliché in Toontown. Listen now for our shave and haircut special!

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ambientvibez

I downloaded the patreon for this movie deep dive

PETER AVANZINO

One of the greatest movie experience of my life happened when I went to see Willow. I remember Zero about Willow, but during the trailers a cartoon came on. A Maroon Cartoon started, and I thought “Oh yeah, I think I read that they were going to start putting cartoons in front of movies again.” Well anyway, this thing played just like a cartoon, and I was enjoying it, laughing at Roger when a fridge fell on him, when suddenly a voice yelled cut and the human director walked into the scene. I had no idea what this movie was. I had no idea they were making it. The rest of the trailer was scenes of the cartoon characters in the human world and it was amazing, but I was in shock. Shock I tell you. It was the experience you were saying you would have liked in the movie. I thought it was a cartoon, but was then shown that it wasn’t. It was so amazing to be able to be surprised like that back in those days. Now days you can see everything online, but then to see trailers you had to go into a movie theater. So I saw Willow several times that week. I’m only at the end of the history part of this episode- only two hours in, and I have a long list of supplemental books and videos you’ve recommended. Looking forward to the next four hours.

Tashmon Dimps

All hands on deck, everybody! This is a big one!!

ShyRanger

THank you for making a podcast long enough to help get through almost a whole day of work tomorrow.

nalem

Hot damn! You just made my work day tomorrow a lot more fun

Lorin Bernsen

Yessssss!!!!! THANK YOU for doing this one!!

John Simon

Never thought of Pete's Dragon, The Cat From Outer Space, and The Black Hole as contemporaneous with Star Wars. They all feel like something from ten years earlier; Bedknobs and Broomsticks and the Love Bug movies.

Paul

The one modern day special effects behind the scenes thing I'd say is really interesting is the one for The Mandalorian. The development of the wraparound LED screen so actors can physically see the environment and have real light cast on them and how they combine it with some practical effects and set pieces is really neat. I think The Batman went on to use similar technology.

Steven Babb

Very much looking forward to this! Great stuff!!

Nicholas S Anderson

As this was downloading I was giddy with excitement. You have truly outdone yourselves, I won’t spoil how long it is. But WOW.! Thank you for the hard work guys. Have really been looking forward to this one. I can’t even imagine all the hard work it took. This is Master Class Bob and Henry. Kudos.

FootFungus

Damn, I have to rewatch this now.

Jodero's Art Page

Jeeeeez, didn't realize this'll be 6 freakin' hours. I pray for you guys.

Frank Grimes

i can only imagine how long the simpsons movie will be. It might be an entire work day worth of audio.

Yeah, Nate Nelson!

I can't help but wonder now if the joke about Dumbo "working for peanuts" is a direct reference to the low fees paid for the rights to include the non-Disney characters.

Blake R.

smiiiiiile darn ya smiiiile. you know this podcast is a great one after alllllll

SilkiePJ

Gex: This podcast's bigger than Richard Williams' Ego!

Harry Thornton

Honestly the only reason I haven't listened to this one yet is just how fucking large it is! And that's not a bad thing, it's just... wow, 6 hours. Between South Park, Pinocchio, this, and Toy Story 3 next time, you guys have been great at picking films that I've always wanted to see on WAC Movie!

Lorin Bernsen

Nearly 2 hours on the history segment alone! But really, anything less would’ve felt like a cheat. I am grinning from rabbit ear to rabbit ear!

Steven Babb

One of your best podcasts - amazing work!! When I was in animation school, we had to read and deeply learn from Richard Williams' book "The Animator's Survival Kit." I've had multiple copies over the years - one of the best core principles of animation books ever, I suppose. But, also interesting to hear about him having a large ego and not finishing stuff. I learned a ton on this one!

Riley Hall

Bob, your Doc Brown sounds like Bernie Sanders. You need to work on that.

Cossover

The books don’t do it I mean you read one that all you really need. They was some good thing in it like eddie been a fan of dick tracy and some talk about a toon playing football.

Devin Hoffarth

I don't know how true this is. But according to this youtube video: https://youtu.be/Kfk11eQPbek?t=927 in an earlier script of the film during the theater scene, Eddie claims the guy who robbed the bank (and by extension Judge Doom) is the Hunter who shot Bambi's mother. Which I could see that being an early idea for him considering just how boomery and referential this film is. Making the villain the guy who traumatized their generation (and ours with the shoe) seems like a natural idea. But again: I don't know what his sources are so feel free to ask him if you're suspicious of it. Great Podcast!

Seth Short

I remember you all joking that only two or three people voted against this movie - I was one of them lol. The sad thing is, I love everything about this movie (the LA post war noir setting, the animation which is incredible, Bob Hoskins and Chris Lloyd, etc.) except for Roger Rabbit himself. I hate him. To me he is the most annoying, obnoxious, and unwatchable character in movie history. His voice makes me want to vomit and his manic behavior makes me want to reach through the screen and strangle him myself. He is SO ANNOYING. When he is on screen I have to literally fast forward and mute it. I truly wwnt to be able to enjoy this movie but he completely destroys it for me. That being said I still really loved the two hours of history and production stuff at the beginning. Great work from you two regardless! I'm glad there weren't sequels but I'd love to see another project like this during my lifetime, just one that doesn't involve RR.

Viewmasters

Surreal walking down Hope st when they said “hope st, wherever that is”

Grant Baxter

I really just want to thank you guys for going above and beyond with all the research, work, and time dedicated to this podcast, and just how much you guys put in always.

Brian Biggs

I’m paying more and getting less with all this inflation, but with WACM I’m paying the same and getting more. 6.5 hours - in this economy? Well done!

Matt Hayden

Such an amazing episode. Fantastic work, guys.

Berto

I'm prepared to buy this on physical media because I want all these special features I keep hearing about... but I'm not sure which one to get. I'd obviously like the best possible quality, but features are more important. What should I be looking at (notably, my TV will do 4k UHD, but I don't know whether that version of the movie will bring all the goodies...)

Piro A Rat

Great episode, absolutely earned that almost 7 hour length. The episode made me want to read more into the weird offshoot media they made for it, and particularly the graphic novel by Marvel “The Resurrection of Doom” that serves as a protosequel. Other than being a fairly straightforward “movie sequel in comic form,” the comic sees Judge Doom brought back to life via a multiplane camera, an “evil Ink & Paint Lady,” and an old model sheet of Doom. Even more importantly, Doom’s backstory -is- actually explained: Doom was actually a 1920s cartoon villain named Baron Von Rotten who was known for being able to assume any role (including Hitler??? Yeah there’s a Hitler in this kid’s graphic novel) until a grenade during “Mother Goose Step” permanently disfigures his eyes. Anyway, the graphic novel is a fun and short little read, I just thought it was interesting as Henry brought up the idea that his backstory would be explored by a miniseries now; graphic novels and comics were just what they did in the 80s and 90s since they were so much cheaper to make.

Mr. Zayler

This was one of my favourite movies as a kid, that only got better the older I got. I always read the ending of the movie, when the machine rolls into Toon Town and gets instantly hit by a train, that Doom's plan never would of worked, Toon Town is too chaotic, the machine would of been destroyed one way or another.

Paul Klockenkemper

Great Episode. Very Informative. However, I really wish you guys weren't so dismissive of digital animation in general. Your repeated statements of "A computer did it!" would suggest a lack of awareness and appreciation for the labor and creativity of computer programming and digital animation. I understand that it is a more abstract form of labor and probably, for you guys at least, not as interesting to learn about as practical effects and hand drawn animation. But it is labor and it does require the brains and creativity of humans to make it happen. A computer is not a magic box that just does magic stuff independently of people. It only does what people tell it to do, people with the knowledge of mathematics, circuit theory, and programming to make it happen. Don't diminish that just because it's not as interesting to you personally. Otherwise, I really enjoyed this one and am a big fan of the work you guys do.

JoshuaMartian

Fans have speculated that Judge Doom's toon identity is none other than Pistol Packin' Possum as seen in a poster in Maroon's office. Not only does he have conspicuously red eyes and an evil grin but he also carries the same long-barreled gun as Doom. One shot in particular makes this seem intentional: Eddie spots the reflection of Doom's real gun, matched in position with the one in the poster, so it appears as if the Possum is aiming the gun about to be fired. And this is strictly headcanon but all of the posters in Maroon's office are for Roger and Baby Herman shorts, which could imply Roger's breakout stardom overshadowed the Possum which would give him motive to frame Roger and kill Maroon. Personally, I'm glad they never tell us who Doom really is but it's a fun little easter egg and I'd love to know if Zemeckis planned this or if the production designers snuck it past him. Congrats on outdoing yourselves with this episode! It was the perfect companion piece to listen to after seeing the film for the first time in cinemas this Easter.

Ashley Treacy

love all the amazing animation history I learn from these podcasts