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What A Cartoon Movie! - Toy Story 3 (Patreon)

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2022-05-30 04:01:01
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By the mid-'00s, Pixar was on top of the world, but at odds with Disney. Unhappy with their contract, the studio began seeking other distributors... and we all know how that story ends. After getting consumed by Disney—the fate of us all—Pixar put into production Toy Story 3: a movie that represents the sequel factory Disney wanted their acquisition to become. And despite being a creation forced into production by corporate cynicism, Toy Story 3 placed a perfect period at the end of the series—until said period had to be deleted nine years later. This month on What A Cartoon Movie, listen in as we explore the Toy Story sequel that kicked off the '10s by making us all ugly cry.

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SomeBloke

The kind of runtime that makes you expect a slow pan over a black and white photograph while a celebrity reads an old letter home from the front. Wouldn't have it any other way.

Frank Grimes

Toy Story 4 didn't really have a villain

Pumpkinbob

Thanks for the epic podcast. A few things to note. The screenwriter talked about some of the things you guys wondered about on the Creative Screenwriting podcast back in 2010. Bo Peep was gone because she wasn’t Andy’s toy. She wasn’t even a toy and the idea that Andy kept his little sister’s lamp that she was too old for just seemed like a stretch. There were dominos that fell due to that, but she was never included in any of the Arndt drafts for that reason. The eye thing and tortilla head came from older ideas they had before the screenwriter even started. They essentially had a bunch of stuff from the first movies that they didn’t fit in. They were trying to establish rules for the world and had to problem solve most of the stuff the new guy kept running into before on the past films. Here is a link if you’re curious. 1/3 of this is history of the writer and this is pre-Lassiter being exposed, but it is still a good listen if you want more info after six solid hours of Toy Story 3. https://gpodder.net/podcast/creative-screenwriting-magazine/michael-arndt-toy-story-3

brian bonelli

The horror movie VHS cover with the noose that Henry was referencing is 1986's "April Fools Day" [98 minutes].

frysjackett

Awesome podcast as always guys!! And I can say..growing up I had so meany slinky dog toys because they would break. So I also always wondered how slinky survived all those years.

Blake R.

another great movie podcast! as hard as it is, i always save these until i'm in the office before playing and having it to listen to for an entire day I was about to enter my senior year of HS the summer when this came out so I was in the perfect age bracket to be emotionally manipulated. saw it with my single mom who raised me akin to Andy and she broke down sobbing hard during the scene where she walks into his empty room. i definitely see the flaws more than I did then and consider it to be the weakest of the franchise but it's still a series where even the weakest link still bats a hell of a game. I did have a friend in college who said Pixar came out and showed them a promotional cut of the movie that cut out right at the incinerator scene as a cliffhanger.

optigrabber

Great podcast! I am a movie softie and as far as tearjerkers go, "Toy Story 3" is right there with the first 10 minutes of "Up," all of "It's a Wonderful Life," and other moments too embarrassing to admit. As I get older, it seems I am finding even more weepy movie moments (it'll happen to YOU!). The Roger Ebert quote about crying at goodness can be found in this article he wrote in 2008, "In search of redemption": https://www.rogerebert.com/roger-ebert/in-search-of-redemption

John-Charles Holmes

Another excellent beefy show! Great work! TS3 always kinda felt like a made milestone for Pixar to me since this felt like the final film of their "perfect" streak before the messy Brave and parade of sequels, the first major upgrade to the Toy Story visuals consistent with the house style to this day, and most importantly, I'm squarely in the demographic of kids who grew up in real time alongside Andy. So much so that this movie actually came out the EXACT same day I graduated from high school! So after bawling my eyes out at a midnight screening saying goodbye to these characters (for the first time of many, oops), 8 hours later I was giving my classes commencement speech and saying goodbye to many of my closest friends in my life so far. The release of TS3 will always stick with me for this unusually personal timing and there's definitely a generation of Pixar fans who I think probably share this same sentiment that gives this movie an added boost of support over many others. Excited to hear you guys talk the overstuffed yet oddly satisfying TS4 soon and hoping y'all do like you've done for the Disney Renaissance and just have a Pixar season at some point to work through more of the films. The history of Pixar only gets messier, stranger, and more robust as the years went on and the films seem to reflect a lot of this too

Ashley Treacy

Toy story 4 looks more realistic but not better.To me amyways. I find hard to rewatch. It seems so drab compared to 3 and sometimes too realistic causing a weord uncally valley effect for me. I think in 3 they had the look of the world and characters perfect

Joe Hodgson

I am one of the resident toy boys here, so yeah, this film does work for me. Though I'm not the idealized Andy because for me as a kid I just bounced from one thing to the next. I can remember loving TMNT and it feels like that dominated my life for a while, but then I look back and realize it was only about 2 years. Before TMNT it was Ghostbusters, then after it was Batman '89, Bucky O'Hare, X-Men, Spider-Man, and so on. I did keep my original turtles, I set them aside in this little, vinyl, suitcase that my grandma bought me for transporting toys to and from her house and that's where they live. The rest got trash-bagged, sold at yard sales, and etc. And that's probably where Andy's toys are heading because there's no way Bonnie is hanging onto those. She fell in love with a spork, for god's sake, so they're all on borrowed time. And for Andy, I think Woody is that toy he probably got before his memory begins which is why he didn't want to say goodbye, where-as everything else was just acquired along the way, used, and set aside eventually. It works though, I balled, we balled, and life goes on. I think it's because I can really feel this one that it's my favorite, followed by 1, then 2, and 4 is a distant last place. 4 is fine and all, I just don't think it was a story that needed telling and it feels like a lot of Pixar post Toy Story 3 - disposable. Except for Coco, that movie is delightful and on any given day maybe my favorite Pixar film. The old lady dying isn't supposed to be the sad part, that woman is practically a corpse from the very beginning, it's Miguel getting through to her through song and piercing that fog of dementia that's the tear-jerker. I'm almost 40 and I've watched my dad have to give multiple eulogies for parents and siblings and experience some of life's harder moments, as well as plenty of happy ones that make many a person cry. The only time I've ever seen a tear sneak out of that man's eyes is when Miguel sings "Remember Me" to his grandma, and I think it's the only time my mom has seen the same from him. Definitely a film worth looking at down the road.

Elijah Elliott

I have grown up with these toys just like you guys but here is my toy story 3 story. At the time this movie came out I was a manager at my movie theater. I ran a late night of the film before anyone had seen it. It was me and my friend when the incinerator scene starts I grab my friend and shake her saying “there not going to kill the toys are they!! They wouldn’t!” And then the ending with Andy giving the toys away happens and I am crying like a baby. We left that showing and my friend says you must really love those silly toys. In short Disney/Pixar’s manipulation worked on me in my 20’s lol.

Ash of Steele

I sobbed in the theater from the incinerator scene all the way to the end, and I haven't seen the movie since. Just hearing the DESCRIPTION of the incinerator scene got me choked up, and I'm willing to admit I took my earbuds out during the clip of Andy giving his toys away. 😭 I wasn't about to put myself in the position of having to explain to my boss that I was crying at a clip from a 6 hour podcast about Toy Story 3 lol.

FootFungus

As a parent, preschool/headstart was great for my kids. It’s mostly arts and crafts, and teachers are usually really engaged. Not everything is bad in this world.

nalem

Fun fact: The Gipsy Kings are Spanish Romani, so *shrug*?

Randy Rivet

I remember going to watch Toy Story 3 at midnight opening night with my girlfriend at the time. I hadn’t made plans to watch it with anyone else, but as the theatre filled up I realized I was surrounded by people I grew up with (some all the way back to kindergarten). There must have been at least 30 people just from my graduating class, sitting together with me. Toy Story 2 may be the height of the franchise for me, but Toy Story 3 will always be my favorite because I walked in feeling like a kid, and, two hours and two emotional breaks later, I felt myself move into adulthood. Probably my favorite experience in a movie theatre.

YancySr

Bob said Toy Story 4 was better than 3? I’m sorry but that’s insane