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We're continuing our journey through Disney in the 1940s with a look at Bambi, the final feature film before the studio's lucrative (but messy)  "war propaganda" period. Though the story's same beats were copied by the much-more-successful The Lion King 50 years later, Bambi exists as a testament to just how much the talented artists at Disney were pushing the medium visually—even if it nearly made them broke. On this month's episode of What A Cartoon Movie, get ready to call your mom afterwards as we explore this brief-but-beautiful tribute to nature.

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Erin Sale

It was the ‘96 Bambi Happy Meal series for me! I loved that little plastic deer with his movable legs, head, and tail. I had completely forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder of the fond memory, Henry 🦌

frysjackett

Seeing that Bambi was a summon in the original kingdom hearts made me want to check that game out. I blame Bambi for me being a regrettable kingdom harts fan. thanks BAMBI.

Joe Hodgson

My dad grew up in a hunting family and is still a deer hunter today. My grandpa forbid all of his kids from seeing Bambi, but they must have come across it or he relented at some point because I got the VHS in '88 and I'm pretty sure it wasn't my dad's first time seeing it. This is such a well-observed film that's beautifully drawn and animated. Growing up around hunting, I've seen a lot of deer dead and alive and they are such timid creatures, for the most part, that seem to constantly live in fear. And man is still their biggest predator. A pack of coyotes will threaten them in the northeast, but not much else (we don't really have wolves and black bears couldn't care less about deer). And since suburban neighborhoods have chewed up so much of our forests, I see them all of the time at my parents' house because they have apple trees around them and deer love apples. I think of this movie often when I see them because it's usually a fawn that comes running out of the woods eager for apples while the doe will be far more timid and cautious. Though once she sees no danger around, she goes right for the tree and I've even watched her stand on her hind legs to try to get the ones high off the ground. And yeah, the hunter who shoots Bambi's mom would almost certainly be hunting out of season. Fawns are born in the spring and hunting season takes place in the fall, right around the time mommy kicks the kid to the curb because she's ready to find a new prince and then once winter hits they tend to congregate in herds. And a lot of states don't allow the shooting of does or restrict it to a lottery system or something. The season traditionally ends after Thanksgiving. As a kid, we'd be at my grandparents for Thanksgiving dinner, then my dad and uncles would all bolt to go hunting for the weekend as one last hurrah before the season closed. The Bambi Happy Meal toys from 1988 were one of the few sets I had all of the toys from: Bambi, Thumper, Flower, and Friend Owl. They were really cool for Happy Meal toys as they had some movable limbs. Disney usually had some of the best Happy Meal toys.

Giovanni

I can't believe over 80 years later 3 voice actors from Bambi, including Bambi himself is still alive!

Carlos Hernandez

All these songs sound like “I am me and you are you” from the xmas hobgoblin movie. It’s pitching so much woo

Robyn L.

I haven't watched Bambi since I was very little. My dad made me and my sister watch it when we were like five or six. Dad doesn't remember but I remember being forced to watch it + animation trauma.

Giovanni

This might be a hot take, but I think the songs in Bambi are worse than Randy Newman singing about what he sees.

Tashmon Dimps

Great episode, guys!! Similar to Bob, I watched this movie for the first time in prep for this podcast. The Disney 2D Features are a big blindspot for me as a Gen Z Black Male, and while I don’t know if I connected with anything on an emotional/story level the CRAFT on display kept me engaged for the full 70 minutes. I’ll definitely have to check out the book because it seems to fill in a ton of the emotional/story gaps I felt were missing from the movie version. Hope you guys do more of these old 2D Disney Features so I have an excuse to check ‘em out!

David Thomson

You mentioned on the show about how modern kids would react to Bambi. I watched it with my kids and they both seemed to enjoy it to a point. I won't state their ages but they are both early Generation Alpha. My eldest latched on to the Lion King similarities right away and that's mainly what kept him engaged, pointing out whenever he noticed a parallel. My daughter has really enjoyed the initial Disney movies that you covered, with Dumbo being her favourite. She was into Bambi from beginning to end and wanted to watch Bambi 2 when she saw it recommended by Disney+ after the movie. The only thing neither of them liked was the songs, as they seemed to have difficulty with the chorus style of songs.

Tyler The Destroyer

Bob mentioned that he didn’t like the saying it’s raining cats and dogs. I actually remember history teacher claiming that the origin of that phrase was medieval and since homes were built very low to the ground animals would get up on the roof to bathe in the sun, and then when it would rain if it rained hard enough, occasionally you would see an animal fall off the roof and it’s raining cats and dogs Another one was don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater that I only knew from my grandmother The same teacher claimed it was Medevial and it was because all the siblings would get a bath one after the other and by the time you get to the baby, the water is so dirty you possibly could throw the baby out with the water Not sure if any of this is real, but it’s always stuck with me Great podcast is always guys. I learned so much and will never look at Bambi the same way again.

SilkiePJ

This was a fantastic WACM episode, fellas. Really loved Bob's research on the book/author and breakdown of the animation used. Bambi is a very special movie for me, as it taught me two important things as a media-obsessed teenager. One, there is still value and artistry in the stories you experience in your youth even if it feels childish or overly-sentimental. And two, even if you know the big spoiler that happens in a media, that doesn't mean the story is ruined for you. I would nearly call Bambi an underrated film because Bambi's Mom's Death eclipses just about everything in the movie in the world of pop culture. It makes the movie feel a lot darker or that there's nothing interesting that happens aside from this tragic scene. Not only is the death more tasteful than what parodies had told me before, but there was so much to appreciate between the animation, the characters, the natural vibes-storytelling, and "Love is a Song" which I think is lowkey beautiful. I would also point out that while Bambi hurt the Boomers and Lion King is the big Millennial phenomenon, the third big animal death story that defined Generation X has to be Charlotte's Web. It was written in 1952 and it's one of the earliest books that was required reading for elementary school (or to atleast be read by the teacher a la Mr. Bergstrom). I think more kids could also connect to the slow, aging death of Charlotte which more kids could probably connect to versus the very sudden deaths in Lion King and Bambi. It might be worth covering the 1973 movie for the show as a movie production of Hanna Barbera, the impact it had on children's media, and how it introduced a generation to Paul Lynde!

nina matsumoto

My obligatory Canadian correction: Sarah Polley is from Toronto, not Vancouver. You will get flayed alive for mixing up those cities here

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

Up front I would just like to say that one of my favourite part of these podcasts is when Bob goes in depth into what Disney kept and changed from the original source material since I've never gone back to check the original tales out. It's fascinating to know that even Bambi was saying a lot more than the movie does and skewed to a more mature audience. -- Much like Dumbo and Pinocchio, revisiting this as an adult leaves me kind of bored. It certainly LOOKS GREAT, but none of the three really have enough substance to keep me interested or feel like I want to go back to them again anytime soon, unlike most of the renaissance era movies or ones like A Goofy Movie and The Emperor's New Groove. Obviously these are hugely important to the medium of animation and the progress of animated film, but they don't hold up as well to me as some of my favourite live-action movies of the era, and I guess I have similar taste to kid me since I rewatched stuff like Aladdin or Lion King waaaaaaay more than the older Disney fare. I guess we'll see how something like Sleeping Beauty or Cinderella holds up when we inevitably get to them down the line on WAC.

Pillowpete

After about 6, maybe 7, months of consistent listening, I've listened to every What A Cartoon Movie episode to date, including this one! To be more on topic though, I really need to revisit Bambi. I think I watched it once as a kid and I was just bored by it back then. 🤣