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Chosen by premium patron ToonJay, it's time for us to cover one of the most influential animated series of the last 20 years, Avatar: The Last Airbender! When it debuted on Nick in 2005, it introduced a whole generation of kids to anime-style action, a lore-filled linear adventure, and enough ships to drown the internet. All that, plus a discussion of a fan-favorite story that's full of pro wrestling references. So grab a cabbage and listen!

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Giovanni

The Blind Bandit is one of the episodes that has everything that's fantastic about Avatar The Last Airbender. There's funny moments, great character development and it moves the story forward in a way that you could watch this pretty much on its own and still enjoy it. Toph is one my favorite characters not just in Avatar, but in animation in general. Despite her disability she's a powerful bender with a sense of humor that I like and her friendship with Katara gets expanded in Season 2 and especially in the Season 3 episode The Runaway which is another one of my favorite episodes. Avatar was ahead of it's time for a show that was made in the 2000's and ages like fine wine among the newer shows like Steven Universe, Tangled The Series and Gravity Falls that tell an overarching plot.

Bryce Lavender

As a huge avatar fan who has absorbed just about every interview and commentary about the show covered all the stuff that I would have mentioned. I normally don’t know all the info about a thing you guys are covering so this was fun! also briefly you guys talked about my favorite thing in the world which is how right magneto is! X-men gets you extra credit on the enjoyment level from me.

Lambda

While I don't have much faith in a live action Netflix remake and the interview quote struck me as wrongheaded, I did see an interesting Tumblr post arguing in favor of removing Sokka's sexism. TL;DR version is that the original show sorta casually implied that the Water Tribes, which are loosely based on Inuit cultures, are more regressive and sexist than the colonizing powers. Whereas, to my knowledge, Inuit cultures tended to be pretty egalitarian. Also, a personal pet peeve that I might be wrong about: I'm pretty sure they get the body type wrong? I feel like Water Tribe people tend to be tall and muscular, even though IRL people who live in those areas would have an unreliable, fatty diet (due to having to rely more extensively on hunting than most other human groups) that wouldn't usually accommodate that body type. I have about a million caveats for that because my knowledge of everything is pretty spotty, but it stuck out to me. https://www.tumblr.com/neechees/741060846247165952/i-know-theres-already-some-white-fans-making?source=share

Harry Thornton

RE: "Bending" and the UK, the show was indeed renamed "Avatar: The Legend of Aang" in that country and others for that very reason. While I never watched the show as a kid, I did know it by that name here in New Zealand and was very confused when the 2010 movie came out everywhere as "The Last Airbender", and that's where I found out about the original title. "The Legend of Aang" actually fits the title for the sequel series, "The Legend of Korra" better than The Last Airbender, and I wonder if the post-Korra series is gonna carry on this "The Legend of X" naming scheme.

Blake R.

I do not buy into any revisionism on the Last Airbender movie that may be oncoming in the wake of ANOTHER live action adaptation, but I will say listening to the Blank Check on the movie re-contextualized how I felt about it. Yes, it's bad. But Shyamalan did really go into it from a place of love after his kids being into it had made him a fan by proxy. While as director he's not entirely faultless, it was a major case of studio interference and a lot of demands being made to change the tone during production to attempt to ape off the then-recent success of The Dark Knight. Interviews about the movie before its release show him offering a lot of adoration and respect for the show which at least shines in comparison to the stories i've been seeing on the Netflix show where the creatives seem to talk about the series scornfully. Almost as if to say "we're not doing it this way because that was for kids and it was bad. we're going to get it RIGHT and in LIVE ACTION". ugh. I can't imagine what made Mike and Bryan walk away but best of luck to them on their endeavors with Avatar Studios. I truly hope those movies DO make it to the big screen as anything traditionally animated in a theater is already few and far between. Plus, it would be nice to see something in a community with fans of the show that actually turns out to be good.

Dylan (batmanboy11) Freitag

I watched through the full show for the first time in late 2019/early 2020 (finishing mere weeks before COVID lockdown) and LOVED IT. Plus, Toph became my favourite character, so I was very pleased to learn that her introduction was going to be the episode WAC covered. This show was pretty much as good as everyone always said it was for the years between it coming out and me getting to it (as rare as that can be sometimes) and I love an excuse to revisit it. -- That being said, I have pretty much no faith in the Netflix live-action adaptation. Every other time they (or anyone else really) tries to adapt a cartoon with their streaming formulas, we go through the same hype cycle of NO IT'LL BE GOOD THIS TIME WE SWEAR, it comes out, it's dogshit, it gets cancelled after one season, and then it either goes away or resurfaces years later for another shot. Maybe it'll be different - everyone seems generally pleased on the One Piece adaptation, but I find it really hard to get excited (especially when they keep saying dumb things in promotion of it).

Seth

If I remember correctly the original character designs for the male earthbender, that was replaced by Toph as Aang’s earthbending teacher, were recycled for the character Bolin in The Legend of Korra. Bolin is the earthbending member of the new team Avatar in TLoK, and he is a fan favorite. When you get around to doing an episode of TLoK you should do Book 3 Chapter 10 “Long Live the Queen”

nina matsumoto

B: "I think my wife had to teach me the ways of 'bofa'" H: "She clowned you good!" Correction: I was telling Bob about some bad person on Twitter (probably a politician?) falling for ligma, and Bob very sincerely asked me, "what's ligma?" And no, I did not clown him, because I don't want to embarrass him for not knowing something, so I gently explained the joke.

Adam Esat

Avoided the show during the mid 00s for pretty much the same reason. I got heavily into anime at the time and was watching a lot of trash, but snubbed Avatar for being fake anime and being from the UK, "bender" was also grounds for mockery. It wasn't until 2015 when a friend convinced me to sit down and finally watch it, and I thought Season 1 was fine, but Season 2 hit me like a ton of bricks. The quality spike was something else, and it mostly maintained it till the end. I was a full convert and it's now one of my favourite shows ever. Toph is, unsurprisingly, also a favourite of mine. I'm hoping Bryan and Mike can tell the stories they wanna tell without as much studio nonsense as they had to deal with post 2008.

Mike Kachur

Great episode, guys! This was the episode I always hoped you'd cover. A couple of neat things that I feel deserve a mention -This series contains Lauren MacMullan's only writing credit outside of "Get a Horse", that being Sokka's haiku-based tale from "Tales of Ba Sing Se" -Xin Fu is voiced by Marc Graue, who is perhaps best known among fans of YouTube Poop for voicing Mario and Luigi in the infamous "Hotel Mario" game!

Sean Ryan

My history with the show was similar to Henry and Bob's... When I first heard about the show, I dismissed it as a Nickelodeon cash grab anime wanna-be. But then a friend showed me THIS exact episode and I was immediately sold and I've been a big fan ever since. Toph is still my favorite of all the characters.

Frank Grimes

Cabin in the woods didn't have a twist. It was probably his most straight forward movie he's done so far

Scotty Beverages

As a dork-ass with too much knowledge of Pokémon I’m glad Henry pointed out that Rock beats Flying type.

Tricia

I wanna thank you guys for both finally covering an important show to me, showing some critical thinking skills in not assuming the worst from headlines on the live action Avatar and most of all, not goofing on the shippers, as notorious as we can be. Hope you return to the show to talk about Zuko someday!

Alistair Shand aka Bongo

For anybody who has not seen this series (my self included) it is now available (in the U.K. at least ) as a pop up channel on Pluto tv

CeLEAstia

Fun question: what’s your fav ship if you had to pick one? I was always really bothered by Katara and Aang ending up together since she was not into him originally. Weird message for little boys imo… “No means no?” More like wait and weigh her down when you’re powerful enough

Michael Branson

If Griffen Newman did the Avatar movie, theyd still be trying to get though filming while Griffen talks to everyone on set about how much more he knows about the subject of Avatar and the same antecdote over and over.

Ryan Atkins

In re: the strangely apologetic tone for the excellent cast...isn't this set in a fictional kingdom? If so, who's to say what exact races the actors should be providing voices of the vaguely Asian characters? Is Filipino ok? Chinese? Laotian? Nepalese? And what of the Water Tribe? Just exactly what native tribe would suffice? And should Toph be voiced by a blind actor only? I appreciate you guys trying to be sensitive, but representational casting is a very slippery slope and paints with a pretty broad brush that can feel racist itself when viewed from certain angles. ('Asian' of any kind will fit the bill, for instance. I know many Japanese who would be offended to be played by a Chinese actor.) How about we just enjoy the fantasy story as it has been provided by the artists without dragging it into the mundane real world.