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Pi Day Poll: Which Video Should I Make?

  • 1. Gentle Piano Mathemusics 34
  • 2. Traditional Pi Day Rant 103
  • 3. Break the 4th Wall 115
  • 2018-03-03
  • 252 votes
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Once the annual Pi Day video became a thing, I started collecting ideas and will often work on a few before I settle on which to produce. Over the years the drafts and ideas for future videos have built up rather than gotten used up, and this time around for my 8th annual Pi Day video I've been working on three different videos and I can't decide which to commit to!

Next week is a production week. I have nothing else on my schedule besides nitty gritty video work. But I need to focus my time on just one of the videos to be ready in time for Pi Day, and I'd like you to help me choose.

Here's our options:

1. At first this year I thought I'd finally do a gentle mathemusical one that uses the digits of pi as a melody, but chromatically (so that the melody uses 10 of the 12 tones instead of just the ones in the major scale, repeating a few).

I wrote the piano piece four years ago but then it was Super Pi Day (3/14/15) so that year's video had to be about that, and the year after was a very important Round Pi Day (3/14/16), and then the next year I was really into Venn Diagrams because of other research and so I wanted to make a Venn Piagram anyway.

This chromatic pi music video can pretty much wait for any Pi Day since it's not tied to a particular year or story. Is this year finally the year?

2. I also have a more traditional Pi Day rant script I wrote 2 years ago but scrapped when I decided to go with a different one that fit the year better, about how many digits of Pi you really need in a practical sense and what would change if the digits weren't exactly what they are.

I've been working to adapt that one into one that fits this year instead, and it's working pretty well (a big improvement over the 2-years-old version). The theoretical question of why Pi has to be exactly Pi is a fun one, not that I have as much insight into it as I'd like! The script also continues the Pi vs Tau controversy storyline.

The setup for this video would fit this year better than 2 years from now (I have a concept for next year already), though the meat of the video works anytime.

3. I accidentally ended up with a third script draft when I was writing what started as a blog post about my 2016 Pi Day video, which I thought was a pretty thinly-veiled allegory demonstrating the ridiculousness of divisive manufactured controversy between people who are fundamentally on the same side:  It's a parody of the politics going on at the time, containing lots of political rhetoric with the nouns switched out for "Pi" and other math terms.

As far as I can tell, no one picked up on that. But it's even more relevant now, so I thought maybe it was time to be more explicit about the history and intentions behind the Pi vs Tau controversy story, co-created between myself, other mathematicians and audiences, other youtubers and youtube algorithms, and how our participation in this low-stakes all-fun-and-games math fight could maybe help us be introspective about where and when we choose to exercise our suspension of disbelief.

Here's the 2016 video, and the entire Pi and Tau video playlist, for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vydPOjRVcSg&index=12&list=PL5F03A9D6D278C5D9

So those are our choices! I'm very particular about my work, but not necessarily about when it happens, and it'll all get out there eventually, so I'm really stuck on which to choose. I can't do any of it without you anyway, so go ahead and vote on whatever you're feeling for this month. 

Also I can always go against the poll numbers if your comments or something else convinces me one way or the other, so don't worry about it being a High Stakes Poll Situation.

Vi

Comments

Perryman

Since “Places Pi Weirdly Appears” isn’t a choice, 3 wins it for me :p

Rick Rubenstein

Since I watch and/or support most of the YouTubers who've done pi/tau stuff, I dearly want to see #3, whether its this Pi day or some other time.

Erin

I voted for 2 and 3. I think I'd enjoy 2 more but 3 might be more important

Alice Enevoldsen

2 is the most interesting to me, in a practical and probably show-my-students kind of way, but 3 seems appropriate this year. I wish it wasn't though.

Thisfox

2 sounds more mathematical, which is where my interest lies.

Troy R

A 21-word poem with pi in the letter count. So how much more accurate do you need? :) Pie. I wish I could calculate pi Eureka cried the great inventor Christmas pudding Christmas pie Is the problem's very center

Noah Schmidt

I remember when you released your tau song, and all the sudden I was aware that the notes were also the numbers, it felt like a whole new world had opened up for me! Since then I sing any number I need to remember, even numbers I don't just to see what they sound like. I would greatly like to see math literally translated into music again like that, and Im intrigued at what you will do with it using half steps rather than scale steps...

Sonja Black

#2 seems most interesting to me. Seems like you've done something about 12 tone rows and pi-music before (though the memory is now but dimly lit), and at least IMO I could do without political allegory creeping into absolutely everything. I grant the relevancy, but where is there left any safe haven?

David A Smith

It occurs to me that you don't get the full chromatic scale because you are using base 10. Have you thought about computing pi in base 12 instead? What does pi in base 12 look like anyway?

David A Smith

Choose the right base and maybe every day is pi day.

Randal Moore

Oh man my choice came in later tonight and it's far far behind the other two. I'd rather stay away from any politics propaganda. So sick of that. If you give me a choice that involves the chromatic scale--I choose that every time. Plus it's time for something light. Maybe if you gave me a break by not completely BLOWING MY MIND on this next math vid. --that would help! :)

Luninareph

I am more interested by 2 and 3. Although 1 does sound nice, I ended up casting my vote for 2 :)

Thomas Boys

I'd like to see a video with lots of pi puns in it, although I understand this wish is a little pi in the sky.

Jessi Lloyd

Sounds like #1 and #3 are both things that could easily wait, but you say that the [current] setup for #2 is well suited to this year, so I say go with that one. I also like the idea David A Smith commented of using pi in base 12 to determine the tone row for idea #1. Either that or you could try using 10TET, but that's probably less practical.

Kenny Tilton

Are you going to weight the votes by contribution level, or go all from each according to their ability to each according to their need on us? Just curious, don't care. Btw, I do not think I saw the 2016 pi vid before, that was grrrrrreat! The doodling blew me away and your voice acting was a hoot. Is there such a thing as voice acting?

Chris Nolan.ca

I voted 2, but maybe do 3 for Tau day ;)

echo zellermann

Where exactly is the πth wall? I mean, obviously opposite the 0th wall and perpendicular to both the π/2th and 3π/2th walls, but which of those faces the audience?

vihart

That'd be fun! I've used pi in base 2 for rhythms but personally haven't used it in base 12 yet.

vihart

I don't think Patreon has an option to show what dollar amount is associated with each poll option, which is just as well because now I don't have to consider that ethical quandary! Indeed there is such a thing as voice acting! Glad you enjoy mine :D

vihart

hmm, there's an idea.

Kenny Tilton

My choice is down by two votes. Damn Russians! OK, let me try some campaigning. Here are some words from #3. Wait, I have to give it a schoolyard nickname. Mr. Grimm. So here are some words from Mr. Grimm: divisive, controversy, ridiculousness, fight, politics, and disbelief. Now here are some words from #2: fun. OK, it has controversy also, but that is in the Pi vs Tau context, which is pure fun. Now I for one think Vi does great videos when the spirit is fun. QED!

MELISSA J CLAGUE

Ours is a family contribution, so we have several votes. Some of us want #3, because ... politics. One of us is having trouble deciding between #2 and #3, because the pi / tau controversy is so appealing, but the possibilities of alternative pi's is so interesting... We're looking forward to whatever you choose!

Quantum Cat

For my own actions and decisions, I usually mull over "What will do the greatest good and least harm." None of these seem to do any harm. I think #3 stands a chance of doing some good beyond the process of educating me on math despite my near intolerance of the subject (which is, in itself, a miracle on your part, Ms. Hart.)

nothings

Too bad you already wrote the music, because: pi base 12.

Andrew Berg

I can see how ideas for videos would stack up if you can only make one per year. Also, I was strongly undecided until you titled it "Break the 4th wall" and I had to vote for that. Which wall would that be in the triple piano peace?

Kevin F. Quinn

I voted 3 - but now I prefer this idea. We all love the traditional Pi day rants so can't go wrong there, and it would also serve as a neat precursor to doing 3 for Tau day :)

JD Brennan

Why does pi have to be exactly pi? What would change if it weren't? Inquiring minds want to know!

Bina Thiessen

The curvature of space would change. With smaller values of pi, the curvature is more positive like the surface of a smaller and smaller sphere. With larger values of pi, the curvature is negative. With all the fun hyperbolic stuff that entails.