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It's 3/14/1...8, and we're just going to roll with it. Why not have Pi be 3.1418...?

As I explain, it ends up being the worst Pi Day ever. And that was before we got the news of Stephen Hawking's passing, so if Pi Day 2018 wasn't the worst before, it certainly is now!

My favourite part of making this video was probably putting more sport in Sport Arena Stadium. In a different video we could have gone deep down the path of the curvature of space, but for Pi Day I'm happy to just plant the idea and incite curiosity. Also note the connection to Triple Piano.

But if one wants to get all space science on it, one could mention how part of what seems to make gravity work and the earth stay in orbit (or one way to think about it) is that space already does curve to the right alternative amount. Changing it just won't do! Also curved space is a little more complicated than just switching to one consistent alternative Pi. Hopefully those curious will go look into it.

I like how it came together, with relevant political undertones twisted and focused toward a ridiculous but interesting extreme, because that's what Pi Day is all about, right? 

My other favourite part of making this video was when I looked up ellipse perimeter equations, not knowing how complicated they are beforehand. The mathematical truth couldn't have worked out better for the video and that part basically wrote itself. How interesting that it's so tricky to calculate!

The "alternative ellipse" perimeter equation I propose, (a+b)π, also worked out nicely and is actually not a super terrible approximation (or at least, I challenge you to create a better one that's as simple). It's an average of what the perimeter would be for an a-radius circle and a b-radius circle, which works because (2πa + 2πb)/2 has all the 2s dance off together. 

The apparent simplicity of the reduced fraction hides the fact that it's an average. You couldn't do this with Tau! Which is just one more example of how while Pi might SEEM simpler and better in this case, reducing it actually obscures the mathematical truth. (τa + τb)/2 looks like what it is: an average perimeter for circles of two different radiuses. While πa + πb takes a second to understand, and π(a+b) yet another.

Still, I had fun creating that particular recreational obscurational approximational alternative equation :D

One argument for Tau is that many equations end up simpler with that extra 2 taken out (like τr instead of 2πr), but there's also examples where the Tau version is more complicated in a way that reveals the nature of the thing. Like how τr²/2 is more complicated than πr², but says more about the nature of what it means to take the area of a circle, that it's more triangly feeling and less squarey feeling.

One of the many things I find fascinating within mathematics, and ontologically, is how different ways of notating things that are mathematically equivalent can read with such different meaning, reveal different properties, and just "feel" so different. A topic I hint at sometimes in videos but someday would like to dive deeper into.

Anyway, happy Pi Day! I hope you find interesting things to think about and share today!

Vi Hart

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Pi Rant 2018: Alternative Pi

2018 Pi is just the worst. Are you a true believer? Show me: https://www.patreon.com/vihart This video exists through support on Patreon! Special thank you to Caleb Wright, Albert Wenger, Pat Devlin, Jack Heidrick, David Perryman, Jeremy Buchanan, Chris Pierik, Wish Society, Carol Hart, Andrea Di Biagio, Charley Sheets, Jodi Vezzetti, Andrew Romaner, Michael Tiemann, and Yana Chernobilsky. Join us: https://www.patreon.com/vihart http://vihart.com

Comments

RMcCreary

If we're instituting Tau Day on June 28th, can we also have Fibonacci Day on November 23?

Peter Norvig

We just had the century's best e day, a month ago.

Simon V (Rith)

Pi rhymes with Vi. Coincidence? Probably.

Kenny Tilton

Hmmm, 11/23/58 had McCarthy et al hard at work on the first Lisp implementation. Coincidence? I don't think so!

Kenny Tilton

More sport? Snail track and field would not need much space.

George Mavronikolas

So I wanted to try the 1/pi day of year...to see if close to this day... no. 365/pi comes out to April 26th. But then I wanted to see what day of the year was today... And that is 73...hmmm...a prime. But guess what... it's in the only prime factor pair for 365 = 73 X 5 ... So Pi Day 2018 is exactly 1/5 of the year. So pi = 5 actually :) (Now I want 73 five-day weeks or 5 seventy-three day seasons. )

vihart

So we did! Luckily e is a good number and needs no rants against it.

Randal Moore

I'm playing Pink Floyd's song 'Keep Talking' to respect the passing of Stephen Hawking. He really enjoyed collaborating with with the band. What a cosmic song and band and Man. If Hawking was born two days earlier his birth date would be a Phi Day but it's fitting he passed on Pi day. I remember feeling like Nothing meant Anything as a kid.. But after reading Hawking, suddenly Everything meant Something. I can't get enough of your energetic and most interesting voice, Vi. You are a master story teller. You make Nothing feel like Everything to Chloe. She's at school right now with this 'vidyo' of yours (as she calls it) on her laptop so her math class can watch it last period at 2:10. Central time in case you feel a bit of a Vibe at 12:10 your time. She and I both get 'Vi Vibes' often.

Jon Levell

I liked the seamlessness of the quick jump to pi=3, 'fakenews', and then back. not heavy handed, but it's there and making a point

Andrew Berg

I've always thought that memorizing more than a few digits of pi was a silly endeavor, for precisely (pun originally not intended, but now very much intended) the reason you state herein. But this video did make me think of yet another in the long list of advantages tau has over pi. For any arbitraty number of digits, tau is twice as precise!

Andrew Berg

oh, it was the primary theme woven throughout, with the "let's just agree that pi is this now because I say so" and the "alternative ellipse" and whatnot...

Graham P Heath

Hi Vi. I can't get this thing you said--about only needing 64 digits of pi to calculate a planck length--out of my head. 64 just seems insignificant compared to the known digits of pi. How'd you come to 64? Is there any further significance to the specific number, in this case? Thanks. Keep up the amazing work.

Joshua Berger

Hi Vi, is there anyway we can DM you? I was introducing my 12 yo student to paradoxes/ infinities and your videos have become a quick favourite. We also love catslugs... Sorry for the unrelated post - your direct inaccessibility on the web is kind of impressive!

vihart

I used current estimates of the size of the observable universe, as compared to the planck length. Or rather, the circumference of the observable universe. I rounded up to 64 because the universe continues to expand and 64 is a very nice power of 2, though even so the actual answer to how much accuracy one might theoretically need is probably much much smaller. The planck length is a theoretical limit to what can be measured when there's maximum energy, whereas the outer reaches of the universe are very low energy so the smallest measurable length is actually much bigger than the planck length!

vihart

Yes! It's in the dotdotdot options on my main page / profile. Glad you're enjoying the slugcats :D

Amy Tobol

Lens = highbrow snapchat!

Amy Tobol

What's a catslug?

Grace

When you use tau or pi, you are doing a coordinate transformation. Changing the coordinate system can clarify or obfuscate. I spent my 20s doing symplectic coordinate transformations for physical systems. I took numerical analysis w/ Bob Palais, who wrote "Pi is wrong!"