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Australian Collins Class SSG Sub Brief (Patreon)

Published:
2019-08-15 21:47:46
Edited:
2020-04-25 09:34:47
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2026-06
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Patron only video.  

I took the 'liberty to designate this submarine an SSG instead of an SSK because it is capable of shooting a Harpoon anti-ship missile.  There has been a lot of feed back about that so I just wanted to clear it up. It was a judgement call on my part.

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Mark Letcher

At least the Aussies are volunteers, unlike most Russian sailors.

Mark Letcher

Got my IRL name, ehhh? Recruiting?

DemonMoose

Great video, there's more to those subs than I thought there was! Would you be willing to do a brief on the Victoria (or Upholder) class subs?

Zorro

Great stuff as always. Thank you Skipper!

112 David L

HAHAHA :D "Everything in Australia is designed to kill you". Skipper, we need 70 days at sea just to stay away from the missus. the only thing you need to be afraid of here is the women XD.

112 David L

In 2016 a conventional variant of the Barracuda-class French nuclear attack boat has been chosen to replace the collins-class SSG. they are the Shortfin Barracuda made by DCNS.

Largezo

and people say that the seawolf was a mess

James

Nice video Jive, though a couple of fun facts for you. 1. We have two motors not one. 2. We call the fairing at the front of the fin (sail for you US guys) the duck bill, and the fairing at the rear of the fin is actually the fin diffuser for the diesel exhaust. 3. The 10 year refits are called “Full Cycle Dockings” where we undergo a full re-certification including cutting the rear of the boat off. They are 24 continuous months with the majority of that in the dock. We also have a 5 year “Mid Cycle Docking” which is 12 continuous months.

Aaron Amick

two motors? huh. That is really good info. thank you

Aaron Amick

A 5 year and a 10 year refit cycle. interesting.

James

Yeah it’s two Jeumont DC motors on a common shaft, gives it a bit of flexibility

James

Oh about the note re: SSG vs SSK we designate them as SSG within our Navy

David Bullock

Jive , Australia has had a long history with US on sharing sub intelligence, we photographed and video taped Rusian Subs at very close range with our Oberons between 1977 -1992 we did about 20 missions we also went in where American Nuclear Subs didnt want to go to monitor Chinese activities in the Sth China Sea...... We also Built, Design and Test ADCAPS in WA!

Patrick gillespie

Thanks for doing the Collins Class video, hope you are getting good use from the HMAS Sheean ball cap?

Aaron Amick

Awesome! Good info, I didn't know we had that much history.

Aaron Amick

Thank you soooo much for that ball cap. It's great.

Aaron Amick

I'll be working my way around the world's Navy's. I should make a poll

Whitzwolf

Thanks for the video on the Collins class Jive. I've requested you to review it before on youtube and now am more than happy to sign up to your patreon to keep seeing these fantastic sub class reviews.

Zoe Brain

We had Link 11 (Outlaw Shark) on our Oberons at the end of their lives.

Zoe Brain

Signaal - Hollandse Signaal Apparaten, a Dutch firm. Trying to convince them that yes,we really did need data from not just 128 but 1024 NM away in our environment was impossible. They had a working, reliable combat system that was good enough, according to them. Fine for European needs, not so good for boats operating anywhere from the Persian Gulf to Kamchatka. Unlike the Rockwell system, it worked - but didn't even attempt to do what the RAN required, despite Australian engineers working with them (and often against them) on site on the requirements. It didn't help that the Dutch eren't cleared for some of the joint US/RAN data, such as Link11 on subs or what later became the ADCAP. They flatly told us that capabilities we'd already refitted on our Oberons were impossible/impracticable and no one could need that, that we didnt know what we were talking about. Meanwhile Rockwell were committing canine intercourse. A very frustrating time.

DesertEagle1280

Love the briefs Jive - glad you moved em to Patreon so you could keep doing them.

Andrew MacDougall

"due to privacy settings, this video cannot be viewed here" :-O

Aaron Amick

I don't know why you are getting those errors. Sorry you can't view them.

Joseph Orr

"Because of its privacy settings, this video cannot be played here." Me too...maybe its the browser we are using or perhaps uBlock Origin??

Turbz

Great vid. Those problems we had aren’t limited to the Collins. Most of our procurements end up a mess. For our latest procurements we should have just gone with some 688s and Arleigh Burkes as offered, though I can understand why we didn’t, because we’d need to double our naval personnel to crew them... 😂

Turbz

Literally just found one whilst on surveillance in the Timor Sea yesterday, steaming along the surface quite happily... 😂

El Portal24

Great Video, a question about conning towers. I remember Skipjack class had a very big but skinny one, heard it had to do with cutting out torque of big single propeller. You mention the Collins the tower was too short t blocking water to prop. Can you elaborate more thanks.

Aaron Amick

yes, at higher speeds the sail of a submarine creates an underwater wake. It's not visiable but you can feel it (if you are behind the sail) that wake disrupts the flow of water going into the propeller

Seahour

Superb video Jive!

Angus

+1 to this comment! (Second video much better than first. Can't stand Alan Jones!)

Dan

"Parts of the hull were painted wood at the launch ceremony... Australians are bad ass..." Thanks Aaron, but as an Australian, I'd probably go with "sloppy and unreliable" :)

Clive Dorer

At the time Signaal was Dutch, not American: Hollandsche Signaalapparaten (literally "Dutch Signalling Equipment")

Clive Dorer

I gather that Pilkington (periscope manufacturer) warned the Aussies that their spec would cause problems, but they were overridden. The Pilkington approach was to shrug and say, "Client gets what clients wants, what do we know about it having made periscopes for 80 years for submarines all over the world...?" They got the last laugh because the Aussies came back cap in hand to pay for....actually not sure if they were all new or upgraded scopes...but basically it cost them a lot more than it would have if they had just taken the vendor tried and tested product off-the-shelf.

112 David L

the reason why it's 70days is that once all the good food runs out we Aussies can live on just Vegemite and toast for weeks :D