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Project 675 Echo II SSGN Sub Brief (Patreon)

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2020-03-31 23:31:39
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2026-06
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A detailed summary of  Project 675 Echo II SSGN.

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Comments

Katfezza

Ooooh! This is a long one! Thanks for your efforts!

Katfezza

Aye, Razboynik Bay (Robber/Bandit/similar Bay) is a big storage facility for nuclear reactors. Apparently they get stored for up to 70 years until safe for dismantling. Decided to do a litte extra reading after your video.

Andrew MacDougall

Hotel next please! Can we get all these related boats together?

Andrew MacDougall

6:00 Are you saying the sub received radar data from the first salvo of missiles which it would use to direct the following salvo?

Andrew MacDougall

Given all the mechanical problems the russians have had with their subs vs. what I'll assume is the rate for US subs; is this the result of inadequate quality standards when building? Do they not have enough back-up systems onboard? Are the crews inadequately trained? Or do they just run them so recklessly hard they break their own equipment a lot and don't care?

Andrew MacDougall

"6 out of 8 to actually work" which means what exactly? only 6 out of 8 will fire and leave the launch tube? 6 out of 8 will reach the target (i.e. guidance, autopilot, radars and data links will work)? 6 out of 8 will achieve a hit?

Matus (Saturnax)

All those problems can be traced back to poor quality checks during production. These issues continued for some years even after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. I wouldn't blame the crews or the training, it was the poorly manufactured equipment that failed in majority of the cases.

Andrew MacDougall

58:00 Murphy assures you it was indeed the same reef.

Andrew MacDougall

Not to be critical Jive but I heard quite a few errors in your reading of the script of the "1963 (really 1973)" variety. You need to slow down and read the script more carefully. Record the audio in short segments instead of all at once and proof-listen to yourself on each one. These are the kind of errors that come of fatigue from long periods of work of researching and reading the materials. We all deeply appreciate what you do but especially for the audio-only version which you can't spot the error from the visual materials that could prove a problem if these are being made "for the record" (which I hope they are as they are very good) rather just disposable entertainment.

Andrew MacDougall

USS Tautog: the only American submarine return to port with twice as many propellers as she set out with. Admittedly spares are a good idea, but I don't think that was what was intended here.

Ben Baselet

Wait.. they MELTED their turbines? I smells something fishy here... Water steam does not melt steel turbines...

Benjamin A Rudnick

It seems like it was all of those things, sometimes singly and sometimes in combinations. There were collisions due to equipment failures and mistakes by crew and officers, maintenance accidents, cracked reactor casings. It would seem that the issue was systemic...that the Soviet system was not capable of running a submarine fleet with anything resembling safety.

Seahour

Awesome brief Jive! That safety record, holy crap, more like failure record. Remind me to run if I ever see a echo submarine.

Faris Asim Shaikh

What was a SSGN doing trailing an SSBN? What a strange twist of fate.

pin_die

If you over-rev a turbine I can think of few outcomes - the turbine disk might shatter, turbine blades might get ripped out, bearings might overheat and plasticity deform or the shaft at the bearing might deform from the heat generated by overloaded bearings. I do not think the steam would melt the turbine, the heat generated by the mechanism perhaps could. It's possible for whoever wrote the report to write it in shorthand fashion.

Ben Baselet

Yes I believe it's a translation issue. Maybe melted the bearings or just overheated and deformed. You don't need much fast heating or vibration in turbines to go out of the clearances, have contact and the whole thing just blows up like a shrapnel bomb.

Blair Siegel

Nice work Jive. I can’t help but think of those poor crews.

Oh

Amazing amount of research and detail here, looking forward to the next one!

William R. Collier Jr.

I have an Echo class model, hand made, that graced an Echo class sub captain's cabin!

Aaron Amick

6 out of 8 did not pass the missile test. That can mean many things.

Nicholas Gross

Is it me or was this a particularly accident prone class?! How unusual is this? How many reactor accidents were there in total? I lost count.

Orffen

This is in reference to Razboinik (Robber, Bandit etc.) Bay

Jackson Emery

Ur fine. What is this? The Navy?