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OH NO BETRAYAL!!!

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Susan Beasley

Hey! I think this ep title is wrong, it says Season 2 instead of Season 4 ❤️

Jinx

Lapidot forever g💚💙

Kaitlyn Wilber

I could barely hear the show this time around rip </3

xman t

Not a huge fan of these episodes, but I'll still enjoy the reactions

Kaitlyn Wilber

HAHAHAHHA not you calling us sapphics out for being pet owners unless theres a restriction YOU CAUGHT ME

Eliteguard99

I love how Ruby could have just stolen the ship in the beginning but instead went through this elaborate ruse just to hurt them lol

Some Simp

Rose couldn't have known if Steven's human half can take on Gem tech,the war was over by the time she had him. Also if she did made him for that that kinda just proves steven's theory of only existing to fix her mistakes

Andy

Mosco is Steven this episode lol Just cannot believe Rose would ever have a child for no reason other than because she wanted to have a child. One who can make all their own decisions and be or do whatever they want, who DOESN'T have a purpose or destiny she strategically created them for

Vex Valor

"If you are sapphic, you have a pet" Me, with a cat on my lap: I don't know what you are talking about.

Xetrov

I feel your pain with that betrayal 😔

Lisunavailable

Not you overcomplicating Stevens existence! 🤣😭

Arianod

Yup. Lapis and Peridot are SUCH lesbians.

LikeCat

Not directly her goal... Just kinda ,,happened"

Arianod

She's a little shit and we love her ^^

dannyzee123

I feel like Lion 4 was tailor-made to say no to overthinkers like Mosco (and me). Stop theorizing about destinies, there's no overarching plan, just a dream of creating a brand new person with a brand new experience. She doesn't act like a person who has a grand plan, she mostly wings everything in everything we've seen. As far as gem tech goes, I'm pretty sure it's implied that tech like the gem destabilizer and the force fields were created after the rebellion, hence why Lapis was so shocked when she got back, so there's no way Rose would have known about it. Plus, everything up until the marbles led the Crystal Gems to believe that they had won, that Homeworld had given up on colonizing Earth, and were never coming back. Rose would have no need of creating some anti-Homeworld-tech weapon. On another topic, I noticed a fun reference for the first time in the Room for Ruby episode. When Navy crash lands on Earth, her pose in the crater is a direct reference to dead Yamcha from DBZ! I completely missed that the first time I watched it.

Mark Ten

Be happy for Navy, she's back where she belongs after a successful mission... and at least she can go pick up the other Rubys before they crash land.

Dinker

Watching the sapphics always have a pet bit and I'm like... oh yeah Melog

Someday Sera

I think it's slightly more complex than that. As peridot indicated back in season 2, all gems are made for a specific purpose, like machines, and rose was fascinated by earth life not having such a purpose, not having a reason or plan for steven was the reason itself. He'd be a gem without a destiny, which was a sort of freedom most gems never experienced.

Jack

Show: steven is just meant to be human/a kid/roses son and he doesn't have a magical destiny Mosco: yeah! And also he was made to be part of roses secret plan to defeat homeworld because theres no way she just had a kid for no reason.

Connie Clemons

Gems are made for a purpose so it makes sense he thinks he has to BE something. I think it’s some sort of gem instinct.

Tasia Cooper

I just noticed something. In one episode they lose their only ship. And in the next… Pink pyramids.

Tasia Cooper

Rose had a lot of secrets, that’s undeniable. But I feel like everyone gives her too much credit when it comes to her decision. Sometimes, she just wants to let people be themselves.

Alex (edited)

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2026-09-17 21:00 The ecstasy that Lapis felt after hating and being suspicious Navy for no particular reason and being right in the end. Best feeling in the universe, Validation.
2025-04-24 20:49 The ecstasy that Lapis felt after hating and being suspicious of Navy for no particular reason and being right in the end. Best feeling in the universe, Validation.

The ecstasy that Lapis felt after hating and being suspicious of Navy for no particular reason and being right in the end. Best feeling in the universe, Validation.

Porpoise Power

That's a really interesting idea. I'm gonna ponder on it.

CaptainChar

"stop it Catra... err Lion"

Matrim

Yeah, I get that this is a first time watch and people are narratively primed to look for reasons for things, but the story has been pretty up front that Rose wanted Steven for Steven’s sake and it’s getting a bit frustrating that the shoe hasn’t dropped for her. Homeworld and every other gem in the universe thought all the gems on Earth were dead until Peridot showed up, Rose wasn’t fighting a war anymore.

Jack

Its definitely frustrating that she basically missed the entire point of that episode. I dont even think theres another episode that says it this upfront so she might just keep thinking that forever.

DJ Thunder

Please remeber that the gems only found out about the advance gem tech after lapis went back to homeworld. Rose, nor Garnet had any way of knowing the new tech that would be made, nor that it wouldnt affect steven.

Wisteria

I think Rose had him just because she was in love with Greg and wanted to have a kid. I don’t think that she thought further than that

ShadowFox1412

...... why do i feel called out by the dog thing when im ace not sapphic?? XD

Summer Gaines

I cannot wait for her to get to the part where she learns why lions pink

Phoenix_mercury

🤣 ok it's not just me(full aro/ace spectrum tho)

Hulk Lover

Oh, that's interesting.

ShadowFox1412

Nice! Demiromantic for me but fully ace.

Arianod

Well, crash landing didn't hurt her; the real horror would be if they got lost in space forever ^^u

Angelus Lupus

"Just put my queer shit on" And now I'm looking at my own multiple bracelets, including the two I made in bisexual and genderfluid flag colours.

iKirbeeburgr

Exactly, the reason Rose wanted to have a human child was because he WOULDN'T have a purpose

Angelus Lupus

To quote Captain Holt (B99), with fist pump: "Vindication!"

tom robson

idk if this is true but i read somewhere that gems apparently can reproduce with humans but through shapeshifting and apparently rose shapeshifted her body to have ovaries. Dk how true this is but an interesting theory

Pumpkin

I love how she didn’t even acknowledge the pink legs😭

Mauranne

Legs ?! They're just two big pink mountain !

Mauranne

I've heard that theory too. Maybe it was a question answered during an event by Rebecca ? My problem with that theory is, knowing how demanding shape-shifting can be, how do you keep a womb for 9 months ?

Nuk Limpear

I'm pretty sure it was answered by someone on the crew, yeah. Can't find it now though...

Lynden

It was in one of the podcasts I think. Sugar says that Rose could have shapeshifted reproductive organs and had Steven that way, but he would have been fully human with none of her characteristics (since she's a rock.) The only way to make true gem/human hybrid was to give up her form.

morisandas

Can you please turn up the audio for the show in future episodes? Im having flashbacks to the previous season where the show is drastically turned down on accident and its hard to hear. Not that I dont want to hear you too, Mosco :D

alovieruu

she can shape shift for 9 months bc shes a yknow what

Alp

First Saturday with no new SU reaction.... I must be strong......... OOOAAGGGHHHHHHH............................

LobotomizedBarbie

I'm sapphiric and don't care for animals at all. Yes yes bring your pitchforks

LikeCat

She is a very special quartz...

Jasmine

6:40 I love the Ruby voice so much. 7:32 I would too but - idk if I noticed the first time, but when watching reactions, it's that first jump-lunge that has me like 🤨...🧐 21:09 what this baby can really d-- then why isn't it at your control panel HMMMM 22:27 that assumes they managed to reunite after tumbling through space

Susan Beasley

I was hoping this would be the episode where she really GOT that Rose didn't have Steven for any other reason than just loving humans and loving Greg. She didn't have some crazy master plan or some incredible destiny for him. She didn't think beyond her own WANTS for creating him and having a piece of humanties experience for herself. I think this was the show's way of trying to put all the crazy theories to rest. We learn as this goes on. Rose was so very selfish in this way. (Not a Rose hater AT ALL! It's just a fact that she chose this for no one but herself.)

Supersideswiper

Rose had no reason for having Steve other then that she wanted Steven. Being able to circumvent gem tech is just a happy coincidence.

Wolfie

18:55 Lapis is so hard on herself, and she had every reason to take so long. She was poofed, trapped and interrogated in a mirror because she was mistaken as a crystal gem, then abandoned and cracked, then held by the crystal gems for thousands of years when she could have been healed by Rose and released. She got dragged back to Earth by force after she left, then was in a toxic fusion with jasper for months. She’s had much more unpleasant experiences with Earth and the crystal gems than Peridot or Navy, and then pretty much had to stay cause homeworld was not safe for her. Her still struggling is understandable, and so is her wanting to stop struggling.

Wolfie

30:17 she definitely saw a future where Navy was a new friend, but it wasn’t a likely one.

Reaper Scythe

I don't think there was any hope for Navy but I think there was a possibility that a different Ruby could've fallen to Earth instead. She got Eyeball and Navy mixed up so I think she just didn't know which the Rubies would've been a friend. My best guess is Leggy.

Corvo Joka

Nah, Rose just wanted to have a baby. She just didn't account for all the problems she's gonna leave Steven with.

Taigan

@5:30 you two are so cute! 🥰

Speed1247

Smartest ruby you will ever see. (She's still a Ruby but that was an incredible level of subterfuge and deception)

Amber Stone

hi Amber Stone trans lesbian I don't have a pet I want one but I know I'm not responsible enough to take care of one