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xman t

Sera's song gave me SO MANY CHILLS!!! It is my favorite song so far

Drake Phoenix

I have a possible theory on Lillith. What if It was Lillith who gave birth to Charlie, was a good mother, yada yada yada... but at some point Roo/Eve/whatever kidnapped her and took her place as a doppelganger?

Yoshinatorsaurus

To me at least, Lilith has the same facial structure as the painting we saw in the pilot, and a few others. Maybe she's just wearing a different outfit in the rest and got rid of the necklace because she doesn't care about Lucifer or Charlie. Don't get me wrong, I think there's some truth to the theory about her not being the biological mom, but I remember most of those paintings looking enough like the non obscured parts here.

Yoshinatorsaurus

Gotta be honest, I'm surprised you didn't catch that the serial killer from Pentious' story was the real-life Jack the Ripper. I thought that was a huge thing in the UK.

Annieme

All 3 songs of this episode are my top 3 so far lol

xman t

Im pretty sure lilith can just hide her horns, similar to how charlie's horns only come out in her "demonic form"

Liam Gradwell

Really love Sir Pentious in this episode. Our tragic little snake boy! 😭 Also Gravity. I knew you were gonna love this song Mosco. Because I fucking do! And look we can call agree Lute is hot. A little bit too much blood thirsty even for my taste, but can agree she is hot. 🤩🥵❤️

xman t

Honestly, even though Lute was interested in Adam romantically, i kind of really doubt he was interested in her the same way

Albedo12

Someone didn't pay attention in Sunday School! Abel is not a reference to the Amazing Digital Circus, but to the Bible. Cain and Abel were Adam's sons. Cain murdered Abel because God accepted Abel's offerings but not Cain's. Thus, they are the first murderer and first murder victim. Cain was condemned to walk the earth for eternity for his crime, so will not be in Heaven or Hell.

Jamie Brand

'Sir Pentious knows who Jack the Ripper is' is not a piece of lore I expected to learn in this episode

neopolitan

I think he cared about her in SOME capacity? But yeah, I doubt it was romantic love. I don't think Adam is really capable of that, at least not where he was by the time he was in the show.

Evil Queen

So fun fact, if you’ve ever seen the movie Anastasia, Liz Callaway who is the voice and singer for the Speaker of God is also the voice and singer for Anastasia. Patina Miller’s voice is incredible I watched her in Pippin a long time ago she is memorizing so those high notes she hits as Sera are just *chef’s kiss*. Also Lute’s song did not give me greatest showman vibes for the song but it’s awesome and will be stuck in my head for a long time now.

Gihellcy

Oh yeah, Lute, or "if evil, why hot" XDD No worries, that's valid AF ^^ Also, Cain & Abel were, in the Bible, Adam & Eve's first kids, Cain muredered Abel (Abel was a sheperd, and Cain a farmer, and God preferes sheep meat over wheat I would say), so Abel was the first murder victim, went to heaven, and Cain, as the first murderer, was condamned to walk on earth till the ends of time with is guilt (no heaven, no hell, just an eternity of solitude)

AZTEC NINJA

"you were interested in him?" Yeah apparently lute's type is high and mighty D-bags!!! 🤣🤣🤣. Also I think we can all agree that we're conflicted about Lute being hot. On the one hand she's a bloodthirsty mentally unstable psychopath, on the other she's hot 😂😂😂

Jacob Bess

For a while now I’ve had a theory that Lilith is Charlie’s biological mother but Eve was the mother who raised her. Like maybe Lilith went to heaven a long time ago and Eve decided to disguise herself as Lilith and take her place for some reason. But Eve is also Roo and she had to leave 8 years ago because her Roo side started to take over. But here we see Charlie’s calls are going through to the real Lilith so maybe I’m totally wrong. Unless Lilith was in on Eve doing that somehow, I don’t know.

Havoc 13

I think Abel is a people pleaser because he really wanted a good relationship with his dad. I genuinely think he could be a good friend (only friend) to lute if they talked about how they feel about their loss. Abel seems calm about adams death but he clearly doesn't outright hate Adam. He probably feels a lack of closure with how messed up their relationship was.

Vince

Oh yeah no, as soon as the background latin hit on Gravity I was like WE’RE FUCKED YALL ITS A BANGER

Ferret

If you played Gravity for me without context I would be like "is this a Halestorm song?" This is a good thing. It fucks so hard.

Ferret

Anyway Blitzø can never be allowed into heaven, there's far too many horses that are too pure for him to be allowed within 50 feet of.

CrowOfAFeather

I don't see why people think that just because Pentious got redeemed that Adam would be in Hell. He got stabbed by Nifty using angelic weapons, we KNOW that's what permanently kill both demons and angels. And we don't need Adam back anyway. These were two great episodes, and an amazing way to start a new season! Next Wednesday can't come fast enough! :D

BGTitan

I have been waiting for Lute’s spiraling meltdown! Let’s freakin go!!! Wearing Adam’s halo on her wrist and everything like girl!

Bemmie

Luke has no points like left to their own devices. The sinner is in hell would fight amongst each other the exterminations banded them together and allow them to overcome heaven without the exterminations. There is no threat.

DragonBlaze

What if it is Eve that is in Heaven playing a Lute. last episode Charlie did say that her dad wasn't so bad. Eve would hate Lucifer and Lilith. Think about it. If you were to hurt him and her, what would you do?

Dafydd Mac an Leigh

Hi Back, I'm Dafydd... *clears throat* anyway... I'm intrigued by this Speaker of God character. Is she supposed to be the Metatron, like in Good Omens, Dogma, etc? Also, I love Sera having to deal with all the doubt and regret. It's a touch i honestly hadn't expected.

BigPoppaJohn89

Pentious witnessed Jack the Ripper's 1st murder! i can understand Lute's anger for not being the leader of the army and having a beta like Abel taking charge instead of her, that would piss anyone off . the Gravity song goes so fucking hard and Lute's so fucking hot does anyone see a death flag on Sera cause i do?

Someday Sera

actually...i've been thinking the red in her hair floof might actually be her right horn, the shape is about right, and the floof goes across her head in a way that the left horn could be under the other end. I wonder if they just get longer when she's angry/demon form, but are always there, it's hard to tell.

Someday Sera

The timing may not mean anything, but, we DO see Roo before lilith or eve in the opening of the first episode of season 1, implying she may be older than either of them. Still...my money is on eve, corrupted by the apple and cast down. Sealed away somewhere, but...something is up with Charlie, at the very least, consider that she seems to be in her twenties, yet Lillith and Lucifer would presumably have been together for billions of years. it's possible they simply waited that long, but it's also possible there is a reason they waited that long (or that charlie is MUCH older than we've been led to believe) I'm not sure I buy mosco and elijah's theory, but there is something there.

Kitsune Kokoro

Gravity is a BANGER of a song, I love it. And surely a decidedly non-angelic angel, singing an entire song about *falling*, will not be foreshadowing for anything... surely...

David Johnson

"Speaker to God" looks an awful lot like one of the Goetia.

David Johnson

Sir Pentious's pain over not being able to see his friends highlights a theological question of how those in Heaven can actually be happy knowing that at least some of their friends and family are being tortured forever in Hell. The answers come up with so far are... problematical.

morthasa

17:00 - I doubt it works exactly like that, if only because I don't think people like Vox or Valentino are capable of this kind of self-reflection (at least as they currently are).

morthasa

Am I the only one that thinks Emily is essentially a transplanted Webbigail Vanderquack? Same (high) energy.

Serinthia Kelberry

"Tell someone you're the metatron and they stare at you blankly. Mention something out of a Charlton Heston movie, and suddenly, everybody's a theology scholar!!" Just...first thing I thought of, seeing the Speaker...people who get the reference are awesome.

Someday Sera

so does sera when Charlie meets her in season 1. She changes into the more human form we typically see after a few seconds. I suspect the goetia are the same species as the speaker and sera, just with demonic and angelic variants.

Someday Sera

trying to figure out what it reminds me of...some old nu-metal band, evanescence or something. But yes, very VERY good song.

Suplee215

I think the skepticism over what happened to Sir Pentous is warranted. What is more likely, something that has never happened before and is believed with good reason to be impossible or a powerful demon finding a way to send someone through? The problem with proving a miracle is theres nothing ti comapre it to.

Suplee215

As for best way to handle the political situation, I think the key to preventing future uprisings is to make sure no one have a reason to revolt in the future. Which goes beyond helping the sinners get redeemed. No reason hell needs to be as bad as it is. Sinners like the vees sure need to be handled one way or another but in general most arent that bad and the demons in helluva boss seem capable of being fine. Current power structure a mess. This show gives a lot to think about.

Ryan

Hi Bach, I'm Mozart! We may not see Adam in hell, but if Abel is here, then Cain must be down there for winning at Super Smash Bros. I like your theory that people get into Heaven or Hell because *they* believe they deserve it ... if we find out how Angel Dust (or his sister) died we can test that theory. It would be one hell of a subversion of Christian mythology if all it takes to get into Heaven is thinking you deserve it, rather than, y'know, being a good person. The problem with Lute's argument is that she's viewing Hell as a monolith. Consider how you'd feel if you were judged by the worst members of your community. Yes, the Vees would probably invade Heaven given half a chance. The other overlords... it remains to be seen what they want to do. And of course any of the cannibals that survived will want seconds. But on the other hand, Heaven is not a monolith, either. Most of the angels were unaware of the extermination, and probably wouldn't want them to resume. But what could cause issues in Heaven is ... if a soul can ascend from Hell, could an angel fall from Heaven? Lucifer was an arch-angel, that's one thing, but your average soul from Earth? That might cause some anxiety... It's funny that some of my favorite portrayals of Christianity - Hunchback of Notre Dame, Good Omens, Hazbin Hotel, all do the one thing you're never supposed to do - question it. And I love it. Some of the most Christian people I've met, aren't.

Phoenix_mercury

The "deserve it" theory doesn't really work when you factor people like vox and Val as I highly doubt any of those three felt like they "deserved" hell

Phoenix_mercury

Especially a song literally called *gravity* i.e. the thing that pulls things down

Phoenix_mercury

He's also likely nervous and not a fan of confrontation considering the last confrontation he was in ended with his brother murdering him

Phoenix_mercury

Like it makes perfect sense Abel ain't a fan of confrontation with how the last one he was involved with ended

KylarStern1995

The speaker seems to confirm the existence of a god in this universe. In legend I am pretty sure God's Speaker is called the Metatron or Gabriel depending on the myth. We haven't heard or seen any of heavens big names. Gabriel, Azreal, Uriel, Raphael or most importantly Michael. Either they are trapped elsewhere or doing important celestial functions that demand all their time or they are all incredibly hands off.

KylarStern1995

Just as a list Michael- Supreme commander of the celestial host. Raphael- The Healer Uriel- The Wrath Azrael- The guide of the dead Gabriel- Gods messenger

Lulu Page

Am I the only one who thinks Abel is so cute? He is so silly I LOVE IT. And I like his design. I hope we get to know his character better, and I don't want him to die 🥺 Also, Sir Pentious (oh... poor guy) has always been one of my favorites, and this episode is amazing. And all the songs are amazing, as always! I'm so in love with this show and not feeling sorry about it at all. I'm so passionate about it, and I've been for all these years and still can't believe we have season 2. I was a fan long before the pilot came out. So yeah, I love it as much as I love rwby :3 And just... so many emotions 💖 Your reaction videos are amazing btw thank you for lighting my mood with these

Simon Davis

I very much get old-style Harley/Joker one-way toxic fixation vibes from them - Lute having the obsessive dependence on Adam that she convinces herself is some kind of love, Adam being happy to take advantage of that but ultimately only caring about himself.

HeroNotFound

I appreciate this, but I’m just frothing at the mouth so hard for more Epic that I can’t even appreciate it haha

ALLYSTRONG

So it has been proven that demons can ascend to Heaven, but can angels fall to Hell? Cause at this point I'm surprised Lute hasn't

JayD

Why would Alastor have a cellphone?? 27:48

Milan Nelson

I just noticed that when Emily made the egg bois there where five in the first frame then right after that there are only 4 but idk lol

Phoenix_mercury

Maybe Charlie gave him one in case of an emergency at the hotel?

Geass

I'm surprised Masco didn't just start the recording over after she had to walk away without doing anything.

Geass

Lucifer has. I'm still wondering if Adam has.

marauderluverz (Luci)

I have to say i love Emily's art of the friends from hell and the fact that Alastor is just a deer. He doesnt even look remotely like himself. 🤣

Alanna Alanime Repski

I mean... Lute and Adam do have points but... the main reason Sinners are so pissed and WANT to kill angels in the first place is because the exterminations started and they have been getting slaughtered every year for seven years. Also another fun note maybe not plot relevant but seven is also a signifigant number in several bible stories. Like with Joseph advising Pharoh about the famine that was coming to save a certain amount of each harvest for the next seven years.

Alanna Alanime Repski

lol to be fair Emily hasn't even met any of the others XD besides Charlie and Vaggie. So her art may be based off of things Pentious has told her. and he was pretty afraid of Alastor the whole time... So he might not have been as detailed XD

Phoenix_mercury

No, it's been stated that death by an angelic weapon(niftys dagger) causes perma death, pen just got lucky that he was redeemed or he'd have been perma gone

Nokomis Bracken

I feel like the heaven/hell dynamic in this show is playing out in a Buddhist way of thinking.. yes, Adam was a shitbird and I have a hard time believing that he never did anything that wouldn't be considered wrong by the typical moral compass.. but he didn't believe he did anything reprehensible, so his conscious was clear.. while pentious didn't actually DO anything wrong, but he felt like he did, so he sent himself where he believed he deserved to be.

Jay Turner

I love how they drew Alistor as a deer because they technically have no way of knowing really what he looks like as he can't be picked up on camera as I'm guess Emily drew it

Brittany Allison

Vivzie has said that that is Lilith. There's no twist there.

Harumi

and what did you expect her to say? "yeah it's not lilith [...]" and spoil entire story? 😂 my guess is Rosie is the real lilith and the one in heaven is just a "decoy", rosie is way too invested into charlie and hotel it would explain why "lilith" in the heaven doesn't answer the calls, didn't talked back to lute, and only called back after charlie kinda made up with heaven after ep8, probably rosie came back and called or something and it would explain how she could make alastor so strong

Robert Morgan

Gravity had no right going so hard.